Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[ColonelLubriderm]

what do you think of Cuth rn

wolfy

though i am open to going monte instead.

[Esooa]

wolfy

though i am open to going monte instead.

I'm decently conflicted cause I think his earlier days were pretty bad but I've felt like he's done a couple distinctly towny things today

I've posted a bit about them this page/last

Do you agree those are towny? Or has your read changed at all on him today?

[ColonelLubriderm]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh

this is a lie.

id definitely launch him before ara if cuth was a wolf

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm decently conflicted cause I think his earlier days were pretty bad but I've felt like he's done a couple distinctly towny things today

I've posted a bit about them this page/last

Do you agree those are towny? Or has your read changed at all on him today?

I actively disagree that they are towny if you are talking abotu the "get mad as a wolf." I don't read the daisy posts as anger, and if they are supposed to be anger, then how do I know it isn't faked anger. Didn't someone say previously that he doesnt get mad as a wolf? I actually think he said it previously which would mean that any anger read on him after that point is a non starter for me.

As for the rest of his posts

Anything after the post where he said "i'm going to try something i've always wanted to do(paraphrase" is irrelevant because it is by definition performance art. Is he a villager saying fuck it, a wolf throwing a hail mary, who knows. I'm not going to begin to parse it because i would justbe coinflipping(ie trying to read him off of it is guessing).

The one thing I do agree with that he posted is that monte's macro yesterday is pro wolf. But it doesn't make sense for a wolf to do unless maple is a wolf as well imo

[Esooa]

I actively disagree that they are towny if you are talking abotu the "get mad as a wolf." I don't read the daisy posts as anger, and if they are supposed to be anger, then how do I know it isn't faked anger. Didn't someone say previously that he doesnt get mad as a wolf? I actually think he said it previously which would mean that any anger read on him after that point is a non starter for me.

As for the rest of his posts

Anything after the post where he said "i'm going to try something i've always wanted to do(paraphrase" is irrelevant because it is by definition performance art. Is he a villager saying fuck it, a wolf throwing a hail mary, who knows. I'm not going to begin to parse it because i would justbe coinflipping(ie trying to read him off of it is guessing).

The one thing I do agree with that he posted is that monte's macro yesterday is pro wolf. But it doesn't make sense for a wolf to do unless maple is a wolf as well imo

for the first thing yea I mentioned that

Ig that makes sense for both points though

[Arapocalypse]

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh

I'm half-skim catching up because I don't have that much time here regardless, but wanted to pull this post out because that's pretty much exactly the sort of thought-stuff that both makes sense and can be somewhat difficult to replicate as mafia? Not entirely impossible, but he's essentially kept this up nonstop for several days now, which is factoring into that read!!!

Yes, still leaning Cuth town here; I guess his mafia range should probably be considered here though? To be fair, I don't remember seeing him as mafia for more than a day phase in the past year or two, and if anyone wants to talk about him doing this here as mafia then cool, but otherwise I still feel fairly comfortable about this, I suppose!!

[Arapocalypse]

my problem is not that i can’t find reasons to villa read cuth. i can

my problem is that the reasons i can come up with require me to level myself and/or are significantly weaker than the reasons i have to v read everyone else except maybe manasi, and at this stage of the game i don’t think i should have to level myself to find villagers. they should just... be villagery

Vote: Manasi

[Arapocalypse]

literally because i've wanted to do it for a long time and i think it's vaguely funny

and i will, though i don't know what you expect forward to be

you guys have been doing a good job so far, if i can get you to yeet the wolves in the poe instead of me that's a success in its own right by my standards for this game

i highly doubt my opinions are going to shift massively, i'm back to being pretty sure most of the reads i was doubting at the start of the day were correct

i've locked you in, esooa finally got around to being v!her, visor just doesn't make sense with dya i think, manti has actually been villagery and not just from posting more, manasi's barely been here, both of the flipped wolves were absolute wet blankets, i'm not happy with the way dya played d2 but i also recognize that it worked on me and i'm just kinda over that

there aren't that many smoking guns i could find if i wanted to based on how the game's played out so far

Why have you wanted to do that for a long time, and why now anyway?

[Esooa]

I felt like he was angry but if you and Hally disagree them alright I prob just read his posts wrong

I think Cuth wouldn't be consciously thinking about that kinda thing as wolf cause

1. He posted it like ~2 months ago (the thing I quoted)

2. He doesn't really seem to be trying much if he's wolf

So that's why I figured it would be towny

[Arapocalypse]

The concept I understand. That’s not my issue.

It’s the fact that Dya would forever torch any goodwill any time in the future she is showing frustration in a game due to lack of time or constant pressuring. That’s what I can’t wrap my head around.

Might be my brain not functioning, but I don't understand what you're saying here?

Are you still talking about the Esooa/dya read or ?

For what it's worth, I still feel fairly good about that; Visor missed a good chunk of Esooa's posts about dya? Might be the multi-quote limit, but there were a good few of them made either day 1 or early day 2 or both!! I think I quoted a few of them around SoD 3, as well!!!

In short, felt natural/genuine suspicion, especially with a certain really specific thing Esooa was onto dya about, that I can't remember the details for at the moment!!

[Arapocalypse]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh

What, am I forgetting something?

Also, isn't today day 4?

[Arapocalypse]

I'm trying to level 1 my reads more and not overthink things, as that seems to have been an issue in the past while; that being said...

Montmorency/Cuth are fairly similar as to where they are in my mind, at the moment? They're both in the PoE and have done objectively towny things; that being said...

Cuth is one that I feel more confident about? Not extremely confident in that I want to put him in my towncore, but enough that I lowkey want to fight for him not to die; part of this is due to me not actually feeling particularly iffy about... essentially any of his posts that I've read? However, not sure if I'd be able to pull together a solid case on that, so yeah; this is where it's at!!!!

Considering Montmorency... at the core of it, the read on him being towny at Logic's EoD is a TWTBAW read where I feel like him doing that there as mafia is just very ??? to do!!!! I think was Cuth that brought up that point which was essentially, what else is he going to do there, which... I was originally thinking was towny that he just went off on his own? A lot of it depends on how in tune with the thread he normally is, I guess, which I'm not particularly aware of!!

I recall seeing Visor talk about that briefly in the past while; the question is more, does Montmorency completely miss how Logic is essentially outed at EoD, as town? Or is he faking it as mafia?

Am I setting the bar too low for him to be missing it, as town?

[Visor]

I'm trying to level 1 my reads more and not overthink things, as that seems to have been an issue in the past while; that being said...

Montmorency/Cuth are fairly similar as to where they are in my mind, at the moment? They're both in the PoE and have done objectively towny things; that being said...

Cuth is one that I feel more confident about? Not extremely confident in that I want to put him in my towncore, but enough that I lowkey want to fight for him not to die; part of this is due to me not actually feeling particularly iffy about... essentially any of his posts that I've read? However, not sure if I'd be able to pull together a solid case on that, so yeah; this is where it's at!!!!

Considering Montmorency... at the core of it, the read on him being towny at Logic's EoD is a TWTBAW read where I feel like him doing that there as mafia is just very ??? to do!!!! I think was Cuth that brought up that point which was essentially, what else is he going to do there, which... I was originally thinking was towny that he just went off on his own? A lot of it depends on how in tune with the thread he normally is, I guess, which I'm not particularly aware of!!

I recall seeing Visor talk about that briefly in the past while; the question is more, does Montmorency completely miss how Logic is essentially outed at EoD, as town? Or is he faking it as mafia?

Am I setting the bar too low for him to be missing it, as town?

so you think monty and cuth are villagers


who are the wolves then?

[ColonelLubriderm]

What, am I forgetting something?

Also, isn't today day 4?

I meant what I typed since d3 started last saturday which is 5 real life days ago.

As for you forgetting, i am not claiming to be especially vocal about it. Just expressing frustration.

[ColonelLubriderm]

this is a lie.

id definitely launch him before ara if cuth was a wolf

i'm a liar again because im back to launching ara before visor in cuth wolf world

[ColonelLubriderm]

i'm a liar again because im back to launching ara before visor in cuth wolf world

What I think should happen:

We should yeet inside of cuth/monte

If the one we yeet is a villa we need to hope we have a full even vig and blast the other.

If we yeet a wolf I would blast manasi.

I still feel reasonably sure cuth/monte are not w/w but not as certain as I did at the start of day.

[Maple]

I'm considering policy lynching monty for the crime of choosing to not post today deliberately.

[Maple]

what happens if manasi 0 posts? lol

[Maple]

Here's the plan. I'm going to read tea leaves and lynch whichever shitter they divine.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm considering policy lynching monty for the crime of choosing to not post today deliberately.

you missed the best post of the thread last night. telling us to better use our time by iso'ing logic

[Maple]

you missed the best post of the thread last night. telling us to better use our time by iso'ing logic

Yeah.

It's impressive that one could make me want them alive less in lylo than an actual 0 poster but that's what I currently feel lol

[ColonelLubriderm]

ima let ephemeral take the wheel

[ColonelLubriderm]

cuth posts leave something to be desired(heh heh heh)

logic exists, but in past tense so maybe just a wolf throwing in the towel? idk

monty feels like bait, I don't have a strong case to make here either way so /shrug, but the first word that comes to mind is definitely "bait"

I miss manasi

manti's doing stuff and I'm curious to see where it leads him, in a vacuum i still think his posts are more into his v range rather than w range but it's far from a lock, him choosing to dome monty doesn't particularly excite me atm and the stuff with dya is still there and it's pretty meh

bop is still fine imo

or, well

I think him choosing the "look at zelda's analysis saying nl bussed!" line is pretty bad considering the basis of the narrative is blatantly flawed

but other than that I think he's kinda solid so

because he could easily do it at almost no cost? he had the perfect setup to do it with his rask push from earlier that day, if he eventually got heat for it later itg it would've been easy to argue himself out of it as a result

This does get a bit weaker given that GH was telegraphing that he would vote to save dya ig, and from that point if nl had even only one other wolf who'd do the same thing then I suppose he could just chill on the dya wagon and be pretty safe that they wouldn't go over in that spot

wtf is that monty post lol

maybe

part of me is stuck on the "cuth would be doing more as a wolf here"

but that's also like, one of the dumbest reasons ever and I don't even know in what capacity(if any) it applies to him as a player in general so

reading ephemeral's last 10 posts, you could apply them to today

[ColonelLubriderm]

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh

waiting to see if/when this happens

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm having this discussion independent of Cuth's alignment.

At the end of the day, I will sheep as I see fit. If you want something to do, ISO Logic.

This is my favorite post

[Maple]

End of the day I bitched logic out of the game and I'm satisfied with that

[Cuthillius]

if there's anyone in this game who would tell logic to stop posting and then spend his entire day playing knowing that and making the most of it it'd be manti

seems unlikely but i thought about the possibility wrt monty and was like nah

[Maple]

if there's anyone in this game who would tell logic to stop posting and then spend his entire day playing knowing that and making the most of it it'd be manti

seems unlikely but i thought about the possibility wrt monty and was like nah

im more likely to tell him to hard distance me or to antispew with his words

source: read literally any game ive played where i've bussed teammates

[Cuthillius]

im more likely to tell him to hard distance me or to antispew with his words

source: read literally any game ive played where i've bussed teammates

i mean yes

but also

[Arapocalypse]

I've had a half-written post about Maple and Manasi for ages, and then accidentally refreshed and lost it; not typing that out again!!!

Short version: wanting to at least discuss them more due to that not really being a point of discussion, especially Manasi who hasn't actually been that much? Also something something Maple in LYLO!!

So, how have you guys been doing?