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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    You are taking it out of context. Do you dispute that a movement for 'social justice' can pose risks to 'innocent'/'good'/'fair' people (or however you want to phrase it), like any other movement (while a movement started in opposition to construction plans is less likely to result in construction of gulags than a movement trying to overthrow the government, one could think)? If no, we can move on.
    The context, or in other words your target, was not in question. The warning of jeopardy is in itself still trivial, unless you have something to put up. Anything is possible.

    I did not present an argument involving the police, that was an analogy in response to your, should we say vacuous, instruction to use empathy. Almost anything can be justified with an appeal to empathy. In and of itself, it is a pretty useless instruction.
    It was an invalid analogy in terms of what you were trying to convey. The scope of what can be justified with an appeal to empathy is, pedantically, more restrictive than other sorts of appeals (e.g. liberty, security, happiness) just by its nature - or at least compared to the less-bounded denotations and allusions of many other concepts. I do admit that an appeal to empathy isn't instructive if the audience doesn't know or understand what to do with it, but I'm not here to hold hands and I don't perceive that anyone is reaching out for mine. One place to start...

    He didn't. I challenge you to quote any part where he did; I suspect that you haven't read his memo (or not particularly carefully).
    If you're going to sealion me, at least offer a more recent or a less well-trod controversy.

    Requiring that people with the wrong opinion should be fired in other cases might not reduce the odds of what you describe here happening, for starters.
    OK. As it happens, only Republicans are suggesting and passing laws to this exact effect, right now. I really don't care what conservatives have to say on this topic, as they never make a credible offer of neutral principles and why they are worthwhile, they just present a naked assertion of their own entitlement to immunity from criticism, which is something they have always enjoyed in outsize proportion throughout history, and something they have never extended. This is a very polite summary.
    Last edited by Montmorency; 06-24-2021 at 02:58.
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