Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Cuthillius]

VaSt ToNaL gAp

i adore that this has just taken on such a vibrant life of its own

[Dobby]

I REMEMBER WHY CAPE
the all caps post when ender blew up and cape said he wanted that closer to eod. That felt squidgy to me on account of the only thing delaying the blowing up would do is allow town to get on the wrong path whereas ender blowing up early, like he did, gives us the third wolf worth of content to review.

hm yes if that makes sense its too big a thought for my brain

[Cuthillius]

can't wait to dunk on you in f3 again gira

[katze]

it's just cape isn't it

they booed me because i was right

[Dobby]

cuth is always in f3 and theres nothing any of us can do about that

only thing i care abotu rn is cuth reacting to this



rest of it, i am going to pretend last 20 posts didnt happen because what the fuck

[Cape90]

oh

rask is just town then

POE is just too easy this game

[Cape90]

stop widening the pr it was fine the first time you said it (rask being v aside)

what is PR?

[katze]

can't wait to dunk on you in f3 again gira

i hope one of you is a wolf so they bring the other to F3

[Dobby]

i kinda want benneh to participate a bit more actively in case monty is the wrong yoink (also where has monty been lol) because it feels like hes going to be the night yoink


i did start a list yesterday but then monty happened so i stopped caring about it but to poke it a little back to life before i bury it again until needed


benneh, rask - never touch

hk, sleep, cuth - dont fucking touch


i dont see a world where its not just in monty, cape and kat.

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7 alive after today and nk

5 alive after tomorrow and nk

f3



with my perfect maffs i can conclude that if its not in monty, cape, katze then we have f3

cuth will be in it, i might be but i hope my ender stuff and people who can read me correctly is enough to land me a nk tonight or tomorrow because i deserve it (also i am top poster and this isnt even my final form)


probably a f3 with cuth, hk +1 if we miss everytime

[Dobby]

what is PR?

idk if nsfw (idk if it even is) jokes are allowed here butt

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at work it means per rectum

[Dobby]

with how newcomb got yoinked the other day i wouldnt be surprised if cape was voted out today and im slightly bervous about that

[katze]

vote: to enable majority

[katze]

eh

vote: monty


i still kinda think it's cape over this but maybe i'm just wrong again tbh

[Dobby]

eh

vote: monty


i still kinda think it's cape over this but maybe i'm just wrong again tbh

love u if tru


btw an hour ago or something i thought day ended today but aparently we have 24 more hoursof waiting

give maj plaes

[katze]

love u if tru


btw an hour ago or something i thought day ended today but aparently we have 24 more hoursof waiting

give maj plaes

will u love me if its cape? :pleading_face:

[Dobby]

will u love me if its cape? :pleading_face:

ill lve you even if its you

[katze]

ill lve you even if its you

now i wish it was

[hollowkatt]

i adore that this has just taken on such a vibrant life of its own

fyi I'm thanking this in post

[hollowkatt]

i hope one of you is a wolf so they bring the other to F3

my ideal f3 is me, you, and raskol b/c shitposting galore

[Cuthillius]

cuth is always in f3 and theres nothing any of us can do about that

off the top of my head i can't really remember being in f3 in a long game as v in a meaningful capacity in a long time

i tried to in alpacas but it didn't work

[Cuthillius]

idk if nsfw (idk if it even is) jokes are allowed here butt

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at work it means per rectum

lmfao

(i mistyped poe)

[katze]

my ideal f3 is me, you, and raskol b/c shitposting galore

if i were in that f3 i'd probably cry trying to solve it

[Dobby]

my ideal f3 is me, you, and raskol b/c shitposting galore

im slightly insulted

[hollowkatt]

if i were in that f3 i'd probably cry trying to solve it

But imagine the shitposting opportunities. Also yes, I would too

im slightly insulted

Please don't be! While I believe in my heart of hearts you can shitpost with the best of them you're too pure and kind. Plus I'd just snap vote whomever else was there and that's no fun.

[Sleep]

can't wait to dunk on you in f3 again gira

if i'm there again i'm snap voting you

though really it's my fault for not outing my LOCK MAFIA "sort these players from v to w" tell

[Dobby]

But imagine the shitposting opportunities. Also yes, I would too



Please don't be! While I believe in my heart of hearts you can shitpost with the best of them you're too pure and kind. Plus I'd just snap vote whomever else was there and that's no fun.

im not kind this is the first game i havent tilted in (yet) in... months or years

[Sleep]

also jeez yall blew this thread up

[Montmorency]

did Dobby ever explain why he reacted to dolby dying twice 5 hours apart like that?

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idk what happened but I'm on my phone and somehow the above got posted to my blog instead of the thread

The question was answered yesterday, bit I'm just sad @zack erased Double A's claim to history. :teardrop:

i dont understand what approximately any of this means

i was the top poster d1 what do you mean "without much thread presence"

During EOD you were, like Ender, present but in the background noncomittally.

what if:

I guess the big question of the day is this: was there a wolf on Ladd and given their role and given the way the wagon flashed out of nowhere I'm inclined to think wolves were trying to save Ladd more so than gain credit from being on his wagon. Obvs they could not be flashy about saving him b/c it would out them.

I've said before, the crucial element of EOD1 was that only 1-2 Mafia were active, and Ender we now know never moved his vote off Newcomb throughout EOD. Isn't it likely that Mafia simply were not at all in control of the wagons and more or less passively hoped to nudge them to their benefit?

he was drawing a reasonable amount of heat for being inactive most of the day, especially from zack

i also felt like he tried to put momentum on newcomb/rask start of day 2 which is certainly not doing nothing. possible to be town who drew the wrong conclusions, i certainly did, but this desnt really fit my view

(also i had a very dumb shower thought this morning)

I voted Neb and gave Rask a daypass in my first post of D2.

I have few posts how are they so easy to misread!!!

Hey i was going to do this but now someone else did pog

Looking at those vc's I think yes Rask is never wolf, cuth with the first vote on ladd during that eod (other that winston's that i dont count here) to make him a legit wagon when people sussed him already looks good for him.

If a wolf places a vote on ladd here it's - let's look at it.

Rask's vote was within seconds from Monty's vote and both were at :00. Rask's vote can pretty certainly be seen as self-pres. He could've placed a vote that looked good for the mafia sorcerer, but didn't, he voted him.

Those two votes took ladd from 2 votes to 4 votes, and suddenly he went from being one of many wagons, to top one.

Let me stop you right there. In the second before I and Rask simulvoted ladd, Sleep had wagoned and unwagoned ladd: Newcomb > ladd > Newcomb. Right before that, nebbie voted Rask and katze voted Newcomb. So far all either I, and perhaps Rask, knew of the threadstate we were voting to tie ladd 3-3 (ladd-Rask), put ladd past the protowagons with 3, or even tie 3-3-3 (ladd-NC-Rask).

So i just ctrl f:ed "mont" in the first dayphase to see if he had written anything, or if anyone else had mentioned him

These sequences have been covered ig like 10 times already, yet very few people bring up monster's FOS on me for voting him, and no one has ever quoted this:

I read a couple of monty games on this forums and he seems to have no problems posting as a wolf. can the orgers elaborate on why they think he is a wolf from his 3 posts?

you going after monty was spooky, then I saw the other orgers thought he was a wolf too so maybe I was missing some meta but from a quick skim of 2 of his games he seems like a perfectly competent wolf so i dont realy see whats up

Which games though.

just for the record, this isn't an ironclad meta-read or anything, it's partly to see how he reacts / light a fire under his bum. (if ladd is a wolf he may have tmi'd monty town in #554 )

more generally, v possible we are v/v and having a hard time communicating with each other

also this is somewhat tangential but i think newcomb is probably Just A Villager here

So bomb ladd.

Seriously, someone assemble all my mentions or interactions of flipped mafiosi, add it up.

@Cuthilius

Remember the failure of Mass Effect (we Tdomed to KO Town).

I mean, it mostly looks bad for ladd (lol), but if i turn it around i think yes it can be to put a shield up on a townie that a lot of people push
but it could definitely also be about a teammate that he shields and has a read that he wants cred for when they get ml'ed

As an aside, isn't it a contradiction for ladd to shield a teammate for ML credit later? If I'm his teammate then I wouldn't be an ML by definition.

AND MONTY TRIED TO UNVOTE LADD AT :01 TO MAKE HIM NOT TOP WAGON!!

so yes, monty definitely doesn't get cred for it.


only sus

monty you get sus.

You act like it's a bad thing to unvote there.

its mostly because benneh, rask and sleep are in my nope never voting tier and just below that are hk and cuth so i wouldnt call it skeptical but if not in you cape monty then yes thats the next tier (im too dumb to count how many yoinks we have left)

Day 3-4-5-6
NK 3-4-5

There are 9 players left. If Cuth and Rask are town they should be NKed. I said before I would expect the F3 to be something like neb-dob-cape.

@Montmorency why did you try to unvote Ladd

Explained multiple times. I'll ask you to ISO.

he explained it sod2

wagonomics lol

And testing you and Winston, specifically.

But speaking of wagonomics, HK of all people should get what was doing. Think of, like, every game we've ever played together (which admittedly might only be a couple).

not really a case just some gut feelings about how ender interacted with cuth about his wolf reads

i'm a bit too lazy to bother with it today with monty seeming like they're always going over so i'm trying to save face in case he flips wolf

You think Ender was interacting with ladd and Cuth in the same exact conflictual distancing style?

. . .

I'll repeat again that katze and dobby voted NC and Rask, respectively, at the exact same time (EOD-2), when the formation was still broken into many protowagons. Both of them thought they were pushing someone into the lead. This is important context for evaluating wagons.

[Dobby]

The question was answered yesterday, bit I'm just sad @zack erased Double A's claim to history. :teardrop:



During EOD you were, like Ender, present but in the background noncomittally.



I've said before, the crucial element of EOD1 was that only 1-2 Mafia were active, and Ender we now know never moved his vote off Newcomb throughout EOD. Isn't it likely that Mafia simply were not at all in control of the wagons and more or less passively hoped to nudge them to their benefit?



I voted Neb and gave Rask a daypass in my first post of D2.

I have few posts how are they so easy to misread!!!



Let me stop you right there. In the second before I and Rask simulvoted ladd, Sleep had wagoned and unwagoned ladd: Newcomb > ladd > Newcomb. Right before that, nebbie voted Rask and katze voted Newcomb. So far all either I, and perhaps Rask, knew of the threadstate we were voting to tie ladd 3-3 (ladd-Rask), put ladd past the protowagons with 3, or even tie 3-3-3 (ladd-NC-Rask).



These sequences have been covered ig like 10 times already, yet very few people bring up monster's FOS on me for voting him, and no one has ever quoted this:



Seriously, someone assemble all my mentions or interactions of flipped mafiosi, add it up.

@Cuthilius

Remember the failure of Mass Effect (we Tdomed to KO Town).




As an aside, isn't it a contradiction for ladd to shield a teammate for ML credit later? If I'm his teammate then I wouldn't be an ML by definition.



You act like it's a bad thing to unvote there.



Day 3-4-5-6
NK 3-4-5

There are 9 players left. If Cuth and Rask are town they should be NKed. I said before I would expect the F3 to be something like neb-dob-cape.



Explained multiple times. I'll ask you to ISO.



And testing you and Winston, specifically.

But speaking of wagonomics, HK of all people should get what was doing. Think of, like, every game we've ever played together (which admittedly might only be a couple).



You think Ender was interacting with ladd and Cuth in the same exact conflictual distancing style?



I'll repeat again that katze and dobby voted NC and Rask, respectively, at the exact same time (EOD-2), when the formation was still broken into many protowagons. Both of them thought they were pushing someone into the lead. This is important context for evaluating wagons.

i dont think ive voted newcomb all game sir

also benneh is never in f3, neither will cape :P


also i kinda looked at your interactions with flipped wolves and posted it (or the relevant stuff from it) i know you addressed ender a lot but he forgot to answer all of it or something if so :P

[Sleep]

off the top of my head i can't really remember being in f3 in a long game as v in a meaningful capacity in a long time

i tried to in alpacas but it didn't work

its horrible ive done it multiple times in the past year and i lost all but one and the one with you was somehow the least enervating (voting wrong sucks way more than being hammered)