Casual december game

[EnderWiggin]

Mental model*

I have no idea how that autocorrected to module o.O

[Visor]

Quick notice that neither Luv or Visor have asked me why I am voting Kage tbh

Idk bronana it's fairly obvious that you can vote him for not having much to say about the game and just posting 'offtopic' but he's an old-school orger and first game in years so it doesn't mean anything for me tbh

[Raskolnikov]

Visor (2): Montmo, Logic
HK (2): Taffy, Csargo
Luv2spooge (1): HK
ATPG (1): luv2spooge
Ender (1): ATPG
Logic (5): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Ladd, Visor
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Kage (1): Boquise

EOD in a bit less than 12 hours. (7 PM EST)

[Boquise]

Idk bronana it's fairly obvious that you can vote him for not having much to say about the game and just posting 'offtopic' but he's an old-school orger and first game in years so it doesn't mean anything for me tbh

You're wrong tho tbh

[Vulgard]

I have decided luvs2spooge is town. Who are they? I know people who they are not I suppose.

Also Boq's recentish postings haven't been great, but idk I think they at least ticked off checkboxes on how I expected town Boq to read me.

Can you elaborate on why you believe Boq's recent posting has been poor?

[Vulgard]

Kagemusha is hard null.

[Totally not Taffy]

Are you dissatisfied with the main suspicions being thrown around?

I have a dislike of going with consensus especially D1 because it often lands on town and it provides easy cover for wolves. If we're all throwing a lot of reads/observations around, then they are forced to do so as well and the D5 conversation can be better than "you voted Logic - well so did you - yes but my reasons were more genuine than your reasons".

[EnderWiggin]

Taffy is moderately likely town unless I'm misreading my own notes on her play.

[EnderWiggin]

The caveat is that I was fooled by her team like 2 games ago so she may have a better read on how to fool me than most rn.

[Totally not Taffy]

independent of gamestate, what's your read on logic

At the start of the game I felt like Logic was trying too hard to fit in with the "whoo let's do all the wolf tells" game that was going. Post #133 specifically gave me that impression, and I think others thought the same because the flow of the thread suddenly came to a halt at that time until Cape obliviously broke the silence. Logic's early reads list contained nothing surprising so I don't know why he felt the need to make it at that time. However, he has since posted very much like I'd expect a town in his position to post. I have never played with Logic before, nor read any of his games, so I don't know how good a wolf he is.

[Totally not Taffy]

Yes and yes. Literally both.

I remember you, I very much wolfread you in FAM2 lol

You were one of the few people suspecting me who talked to me rather than about me and I really appreciated that at the time. You're being a lot less tunnelly this game than I would have expected. How do you feel you've evolved as a player in the months between?

[Totally not Taffy]

Out of game Visor: "logic is super easy to read. I don't think I've ever gotten him wrong.
In game visor: "Logic obvious wolf"

When I'm villaging, if visor calls me scum with certaity, he's scum himself. I say this with confidence, because I don't think I've ever been wrong in this before. (Sample size, 5? games)

Are there other players in this game who you think should know about Visor being good at reading you?

[Totally not Taffy]

Also luv2 is a wolf.

vote: luv2spooge

Is this based on more than that he's putting you as a top town and you feel you haven't earned that spot yet so he must have tmi?

[Totally not Taffy]

I think Logic is fully in wolf meta.

But I also am noting no push back against the wagon, like almost zilch.

This is what I was referring to when I said Logic is either town or being bussed. And it would make sense in a game with a lot of strong town that if one of your team gets caught in an unfortunate start that you'd rather let them go and try to get some towncred than that you'd risk losing two members.

[Totally not Taffy]

What's funny tbh?

It's obviously not Dale. If Spooge is who I think it is then we've played exactly one game together that also had at least two other players who are here.

[Vulgard]

I like Totally not Taffy's posting right now, they can be town.

[Vulgard]

Taffy is moderately likely town unless I'm misreading my own notes on her play.

Can you compile your reads for me real quick, please?

[EnderWiggin]

Can you compile your reads for me real quick, please?

Given I'm halfway to sleep right now unfortunately not. I don't know how much of it I remember off the top of my head.

Taffy town, Logic wolf, Amy maybe town, Vul maybe town, Pizza ?????????????????????

[Totally not Taffy]

Fwiw, if ATPG flips mafia, I would strongly consider clearing Ender and Amy, even though ATPG said he was more than happy to leave distancing spew. And if one of Ender/Amy flips mafia, probably give ATPG some time and see if he dies for it (because by his own admission, he should).

I disagree with this, Ender's scumread on Asks was equally premature and based on stuff he should know is NAI as I think Asks' read on Ender is. They could both be wrong town, or it could be distancing since, if Asks is a wolf, he can't expect to endgame so he needs to do that right from the start.

[EnderWiggin]

Nothing can ever truly unpair me and Pizza. We have done some epic distancing in the past.

[Vulgard]

Given I'm halfway to sleep right now unfortunately not. I don't know how much of it I remember off the top of my head.

Taffy town, Logic wolf, Amy maybe town, Vul maybe town, Pizza ?????????????????????

Why do you have me as town and why did your mind about ATPG change? I thought you had him as a wolf earlier, or was I misunderstanding?

[EnderWiggin]

Why do you have me as town and why did your mind about ATPG change? I thought you had him as a wolf earlier, or was I misunderstanding?

I had him as wolf then agreed my take that leaned him wolf was uncharitable and dropped it since I rail about others using that read.

I had you as town fairly early? The whole "Logic towny... wait no wolf?" Bit

[dyachei]

I wish I knew how to read ender but I always get him wrong when I try

I also think pizza is firmly in both metas rn. He hasn't done anything I think is strictly villagery or strictly wolfy

[Totally not Taffy]

Ender, did I miss you telling us who the second obvious wolf was at the start?

[EnderWiggin]

I wish I knew how to read ender but I always get him wrong when I try

I also think pizza is firmly in both metas rn. He hasn't done anything I think is strictly villagery or strictly wolfy

To be fair there's not many who can read me well consistently.

What is your gth take on me?

[EnderWiggin]

Ender, did I miss you telling us who the second obvious wolf was at the start?

Yes

[dyachei]

To be fair there's not many who can read me well consistently.

What is your gth take on me?

I still have you as null. I see some similarities to the TS game but I think they're easy enough to fake as a wolf. I do better reading you off of spew

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote

I need to spend lots of hours doing more analysis but right now it's prepping dinner, dinner, kids and family time, kiddo bedtime, and then my schedule is still booked solid until deadline.

Everything has to be done overnight for me, please excuse me I gotta be not here and not thinking about the game.

I don't even know what's happening in the game so it's going to take hours to reconnect and reformulate leans.

Couldn't follow through, hope you all have this in my absence.

[Csargo]

Ngl if Logic's town we wasted this entire day phase.

If Logic's town we just yeet visor for funsies. prob dya as well.

[Vulgard]

If Logic's town we just yeet visor for funsies. prob dya as well.

Why them?