Casual december game

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look I know it might be all like "wow even this random guy thinks Logic is mafia" too many people suspect Logic. This guy is sus. Opportunistic. Blah blah blah.

But like, Logic has been wolfy pretty much since their opening post and has not stopped being wolfy. Ladd is not likely to bus Logic that bluntly because it gives a teammate zero out. If Ladd is town and wasn't super sure he would not post that way. So I am treating them as hard different.

If there is anyone that might be a teammate of Logic's that's kinda being a bit meh about the whole Logic shit it's either Pizza or Visor. I have had a fair few moments of reading Visor's content where I was a little bit perturbed. But on the whole he's better than most.

My last readslist remains valid. I have no updates to the reads within it.

So worlds here are wolves killed spooge to discredit me, or wolves killed spooge because he correctly sussed a wolf.

Ladd is one of those names but I've yet to see even one alignment indicative post from Ladd

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, it's pretty clear I softed a PR and I am town so the wolves discrediting me idea is false from the get go, so Spooge found a wolf.

Vulgard would be the one he found, because he missed everywhere else for quite a bit I believe.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes and I think Boq has been kinda wolfy. As per my readslist.

I am super sketch on you. Like, looking at the wolf reads of a town and attacking them for not making sense as a world together is such a typical reach for mafia to make on town I just am probs gonna suspect you until you single handedly pelt a mafia because of it frankly. Good luck friend!

@luvs2spooge

Sweet spoogey jesus, thanks for calling it out among the many, many, many wolfy things that Vulgard has done this game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

One day we will come to a mafia world where sharing nuanced thought about a player is not considered wolfy, but that day isn't today tbh

So until then, I will return to be level 0 and join in with the pitchfork tbh

There's town Boq.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i don't think this is particularly aggro for boq

that's why i like the responses

This is a good read I think, in response to spooge.

Good reads or bad takes are not alignment indicative, why they are presented is.

Amy's why is villagery.

[Csargo]

A significant portion of dya's iso is either defending/explaining why logic/ampharos/vulgard are town. Is this normal? Does town Dya just defend their townreads a lot? Dya called cape and taffy v, but I didn't really see much else.

ender/hk/visor(?) woof leans, most of that centered around hk. I didn't see much about ender except can't read them and counter wagon. Visor lackluster()

Extremely narrow focus says woof to me. There's a lot of chatting with other players, but not really any takes on them that I saw. It honestly feels like I've missed reading some of their posts somewhere. The arguments defending ampharos/vulgard are reasonable good content-wise imo. I tend to agree with stuff like ampharos's demeanor, thoughts on why vulgard's townie, or hk being different.

Is this just how Dya plays as town? Did I miss some posts somewhere, because isoing here sucks?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I couldn't tell you how Dya plays as town or wolf, even though we've played together a bit, its mostly been mashes.

Those are crap for reading someone in a slow game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ender/hk/visor

I dont think this is exactly a team, but all are in my bottom 6.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Visor/Kagemusha slightly paired tbh

I doubt it but I think I remember visor trying to pocket Kage.

So, same activity but different alignment read for it. Wolfy person involved is Visor.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You were one of the few people suspecting me who talked to me rather than about me and I really appreciated that at the time. You're being a lot less tunnelly this game than I would have expected. How do you feel you've evolved as a player in the months between?

Question a wolf probably doesn't think to bother asking here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nothing can ever truly unpair me and Pizza. We have done some epic distancing in the past.

How about me shooting you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Logic's town we just yeet visor for funsies. prob dya as well.

ayyy

thats amore.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I also wonder why pizza just ignored(?) Logic for the most part and didn't put them on their woof leans

Because he literally never did anything wolfy at all.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, I also don't really think that game is a good barometer of what Logic's saying tho. And I don't recall any other games in recent memory.

This is not a w/w interaction with visor and everything else Csargo has said about Visor has not been of a distancing or bussing nature, the suspicion reads pure and organic.

[Csargo]

I am reading the whole game slowly, as you can see from the posts I am quoting.

By the most recent posted quote, Kage hadn't done anything wolfy, and hadn't posted a whole lot.

Rusty or not, Kage was a good wolf when he played. Not unfindable. I call him sexy Kagemusha for a reason, and it's from a game I found him.

Let me know what your conclusion is. I kinda think Kage could be a woof, but it for pretty old meta reasons, which probably aren't applicable anymore. Maybe I dunno.

[Csargo]

Let me know what your conclusion is. I kinda think Kage could be a woof, but it for pretty old meta reasons, which probably aren't applicable anymore. Maybe I dunno.

Reading this back it sounds pretty stupid to me though

[Askthepizzaguy]

somehow I'm less concerned with how you got to your reads and more concerned with how easily you're handing me a town read.

@hollowkatt

It's time to ditch this process from your town solving if you're town here, broheim.

I've seen this be absolutely terrible as a result enough times that I'm pleading with you to consider yeeting this as a process.

All it does is cause you to suss townies as far as I have seen. Repeatedly, an in great numbers.

It might have caught a wolf for you once. You got lucky.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Let me know what your conclusion is. I kinda think Kage could be a woof, but it for pretty old meta reasons, which probably aren't applicable anymore. Maybe I dunno.

He's not trying to get townreads and doesn't know whats going on and isnt involved in creating a narrative.

He can he a disconnected and Ignore strategy wolf at best.

Until he does stuff that is wolfy someone can explain to me, he's town, especially because I have six wolves and there are only four.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He can be* a

I won't ninja edit even a typo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In order of most likely to know

Pizza

Monty
Csargo

Big gap

Dya (maybe)
Amy (maybe)

kinda surprised that you didnt have me in your read list here tbh

Reading incomprehension towntell for Boquise.

[Vulgard]

Damn you, I stayed up later than I should've because I expected us both to flip and I was ready to apologize. I was aware that desperado isn't a suicide bomber but still.

Well, if you still want to kill me, whatever, idk what I'm supposed to do about that fact. You're still doing that thing where you call everything I post wolfy and I'm town so all I can say is that I kinda want to flip so you can prove yourself wrong. You are definitely town, and you are definitely trying to follow a thorough process, but being on the other end of this train deprives me of options.

[Askthepizzaguy]

enderwiggin

This was my other early wolfread and i dont have time to catch up

Convo with pizza early on felt like he was trying to back off from the fight in a wolfy way without actually conceding the point iyam

I have seen wolves do it a ton of times when they dont want to get in a fight with specific players

Ayyy there we go

Villaging from Ladd. That took a while.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Damn you, I stayed up later than I should've because I expected us both to flip and I was ready to apologize. I was aware that desperado isn't a suicide bomber but still.

Well, if you still want to kill me, whatever, idk what I'm supposed to do about that fact. You're still doing that thing where you call everything I post wolfy and I'm town so all I can say is that I kinda want to flip so you can prove yourself wrong. You are definitely town, and you are definitely trying to follow a thorough process, but being on the other end of this train deprives me of options.

Hey, so like, you're alive, and I've been posting tons of analysis.

Any solving thoughts about who the wolves are?

[Vulgard]

I just gave my legacy solve before I thought would die, I more or less adhere to it now.

I kinda want to see Amy respond to my case. Or... to see people acknowledge it at all.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I dont think thats what logic did?

Yeah thats not w/w either with Wiggin.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Logic (3): Amy, Ender, Vulgard
Ender (3): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei
Visor (2): Montmo, Logic
HK (1): Taffy
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Boquise: (1): Visor
Ampharos (1): Boquise
Vulgard(1): luv2spooge

Critical decision point for wolves here if Ender or Visor are wolves.

Also Vulgard, because of how many people died pointing at him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Logic (4): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Renata
Ender (4): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic
Visor (1): Montmo
HK (1): Taffy
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Boquise: (1): Visor
Ampharos (1): Boquise
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

EOD in 1 hour and half

So I can see them all together.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Must

Resist

Scumleaning

Cape

For

Hedging.

(I've gone down this path before.)

So, let's talk about Vulgard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

please correct all "she"s in the previous posts to "they"s

If Ive done that, same.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Montys lack of weirdness is weirding me out

What a terrible take.