Casual december game

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Logic

three-way tie

Can we forever stop doing this as villagers.

Vote Logic for being wolfy, not to create ties.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ender (4): Ladd, Csargo, dyachei, Logic
Ampharos (4): Boquise, Visor, Renata, Montmo
Logic (4): Amy, Ender, Vulgard, Taffy
Luv2spooge (1): HK
Renata (1): Kagemusha
Ladd (1): luv2spooge

EOD in 8 minutes.

Vote: EnderWiggin

I like this better then Amy

Logic is meh

critical point.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have to go onsite. I won't be around for the end end of the day.

Legacy reads if I keep being tipped over:

The "Actual cinnamon roll innocent and should be protected" pile:
luvs2spooge - (Yes I am putting luvs here, you can't stop me.)
Vulgard
Totally not Taffy

The "I have gut reason/thread reason to think they're town and despite recent doubt I still kinda believe it?":
Ampharos

The "Mildly towny but shouldn't be trusted" pile:
Hollowkatt
dyachei

The "Stop wearing questionmarks" null pile
Visor
Renata
Kagemusha

The "I hate their read on me but might be omgus" pile:
Csargo
Cape90
Ladd

The "I think they're wolfy but not really convinced of myself" pile:
Montmorency
Askthepizzaguy
Boquise

The "Wolfy post milord" pile:
Logic

I think I'm going to kill Enderwiggin today after I kill Vulgard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Enderwiggin

[Askthepizzaguy]

i mostly hate these wagons cuz i think logic and amy are v

The wolf team does not usually all do the Defend strategy, so one wolf bussing makes sense.

Still, I think the others have been more wolfy and Im not townreading Hollowkatt

Doesnt have to be dyachei it just is likely to be when 3 of my bottom six are wolves outside of Dyachei and the others flip town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i basically dont remember anything hk has done this game and I think that's wolfy for him but I should have come to this realization with more than 5 mins to EOD

Can be distancing as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: logic

Meh

Might switch to ender but meh

This is not villaging.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, I think I'm just going to switch back and leave it there. GTH you have a bigger chance of being a tonal misread than Logic does.

vote: Logic

This vote is wolfy, the reasons arent given late entry to the game.

Just sucks when townies dont know whats going on.

If this is a wolf I am grumpy because you need to play the game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Ender turns up wolf ever this EoD going to be fun.

This one post threatens to wipe away all reasons I have to townread Renata completely.

The partner analysis here if Wiggin is a wolf is exactly as strong as the townread so far.

I want to believe this is just a really ill advised comment.

[Raskolnikov]

GM friendos, here is your morning tally (I'll bring coffee in a few):

Ender (5): Renata, Vulgard, Ladd, Boquise, ATPG
Amy (2): Visor, Ender
HK (2): Kagemusha, Taffy
Visor (1): HK
Vulgard (1): Amy
Kagemusha (1): Cape

[Askthepizzaguy]

ugh, a part of me thinks ender is town but I just do not want Amy to go over at all

Given how many people said Logic was wolfy (for reasons I never once understood or agreed with)

I can understand why Cape would consolidate onto him to save a townread in Amy and if he doubted his own case on Ender.

Ender is a good wolf, he does that to you.

[Vulgard]

Let me bus my partners!

[EnderWiggin]

This kind of level zero read on the game state just happened from an accomplished wolf in another game.

Seeing it from people I respect and know better than to do as town is bothersome and it should only come from wolf!them.

This ignores all possibilities of bussing on day one, which in a game with four wolves, is viable. It's rarely viable at lower numbers, and if wolves have a PR it can spew one of them town long enough to, say role cop or vanillize or roleblock or whatnot.

Hey Pizza.

I love you and all.

But can you please respectfully stop with the "If he was town he would do better."

Especially because that level 0 read was (mostly) correct even if I took it the wrong path.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am granting my second desperado shot to someone I townread in green.

The shot I will make is silent. You will not know who I shot if I die instead of my target.

However, it should be obvious who my top candidates are. So I am shooting within those names.

Going to fire it shortly for real this time and then go to sleep so I dont have to lose sleep over it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey Pizza.

I love you and all.

But can you please respectfully stop with the "If he was town he would do better."

Especially because that level 0 read was (mostly) correct even if I took it the wrong path.

Sure.

You won't need to deal with me in this game for much longer anyway.

[EnderWiggin]

How about me shooting you?

Honestly?

Tell me who you want me to yeet afterwards then do it.

I'll make town yeet that person for you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Let me bus my partners!

Don't know why you'd troll me like this as town instead of solving the game.

[EnderWiggin]

So, let's talk about Vulgard.

Vulgard's hedging I ignored because they kept coming to the same reads as me after hedging.

Sue me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Honestly?

Tell me who you want me to yeet afterwards then do it.

I'll make town yeet that person for you.

Askthepizzaguy
luvs2spooge
Logic
Montmorency
Cape90
Ampharos
Totally not Taffy
Kagemusha
Csargo - not with Katt
Boquise
Ladd

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Renata solely because of that godawful post about Ender.
dyachei can be bussing Ender
Hollowkatt- independently wolfy
EnderWiggin- I think your leans list is killing nothing but villagers for a very long time
Visor- incredibly wolfy game so far
Vulgard- trolling me, gaslit me, insulted me, entire iso is scumtells.

4 wolves in my bottom six names.

[EnderWiggin]

I would highly recommend making worlds where I'm town before shooting me Pizza.

It'll be very good for you, trust.

[EnderWiggin]

Because in your POE rn there are like...

2 people where your read is half based on me being wolf.

And man that feels bad.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vulgard's hedging I ignored because they kept coming to the same reads as me after hedging.

Sue me.

What's the purpose of this last bit?

As town you know i cannot even damage you if I shot you.

You shouldnt be frustrated with me when the only person that dies is me and then thats one less vote for you.

The more hostile people treat me for no reason the less inclined I am to give them more chances to explain to me their worldview and why theyre townie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I would highly recommend making worlds where I'm town before shooting me Pizza.

It'll be very good for you, trust.

You mean like the world where there's 5 other names I suspect?

[EnderWiggin]

I will defend Renata with my life, if I must. Vulgard I believe is town but there's been enough doubt about it and enough people including Luvs who pointed at em that I will believe I could be wrong there.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because in your POE rn there are like...

2 people where your read is half based on me being wolf.

And man that feels bad.

Who cares, I'll be too dead to actually yeet them for it if I shot you, wouldn't I?

What is this undermining my confidence ploy you're doing right now?

Why would you care at all about how I'm about to remove myself from play and stop accusing those people I am falsely associating with you and you as well?

[EnderWiggin]

What's the purpose of this last bit?

As town you know i cannot even damage you if I shot you.

You shouldnt be frustrated with me when the only person that dies is me and then thats one less vote for you.

The more hostile people treat me for no reason the less inclined I am to give them more chances to explain to me their worldview and why theyre townie.

The last bit is me being exasperated because I've already explained why I townread Vulgard.

And acknowledged I can be wrong.

And yet people still come back at me with effectively "Why did you not sus this about Vulgard???"

I shouldn't be snarky, though, sorry.

[EnderWiggin]

Who cares, I'll be too dead to actually yeet them for it if I shot you, wouldn't I?

What is this undermining my confidence ploy you're doing right now?

Why would you care at all about how I'm about to remove myself from play and stop accusing those people I am falsely associating with you and you as well?

Because you're a good reader of the game.

And I would like to carry your legacy if you do shoot me.

Which is hard if some of those reads exist in worlds I know are false.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tired of being trolled, gaslit, and all this fake concern about how terrible it would be if I shot wrong in a guessing game and the only consequence was me dying.

None of this makes sense from a town POV from anyone doing it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because you're a good reader of the game.

And I would like to carry your legacy if you do shoot me.

Which is hard if some of those reads exist in worlds I know are false.

Why would you want to carry the legacy of someone who you think is accusing a bunch of townies?

[EnderWiggin]

You are allowed to be wrong Pizza.

I am not mad at you for that.

And I'm sorry if any of that came across as any of what you just said.

I shouldn't have come in here with any of that.

(Hells, I have already been terribly wrong on D1 so.)