Casual december game

[Kagemusha]

ill prob vote ender closer to eod

but i do want people to talk about kage some more, i think his narrow focus on hollowkatt is getting a little old at this point, and im not sure hes really cared about any the questions hes asked

Please do elaborate. Concerning the questions i have not answered and the push from you and Csargo. You mean the day1 shitvote from Csargo with the lash emoji?

[Boquise]

Vote Hollowkat
Wynaut

[Raskolnikov]

HK (4): Kagemusha, dya, Renata, Boq
Ender (3), Ladd, Vulgard, Visor
Visor (3): HK, Ender, Taffy
Kagemusha (1): Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy

EOD in 3 hours.

[hollowkatt]

taffy is a wolf because there is no attitude, just treading water, no push, no sassitude, just posting reasonable sounding thinsg while not moving the game state forward

ladd knew it was mac and shot him n1, his attitude to the logic push and then to me when i posted about it being bad and then saying i wasnt paranoid is wofly and his posts are filled with over explanations

hollowkatt is a wolf cause mac sucks donkey balls and always gets reads like tha twrong and hkatt hasnt hit the towny explanation standards i like from him

dya is a wolf for the lack of game progression and focusin gon the logic read LOL (and the amy white knight is eh)

i feel stronger about the first two, but can be convinced the later two are wrong

(perhaps an amy or boq replacement, along with someone else)

i dont actually think pizza shot me, given his comments, and ill be damned if ill let him try to control any moer of teh game, one of the most selfish games ive ever seen played and im shocked yall cant see that

i think he probably shot ender, (ill concede he could be right on vulgard being a wolf tbh)

wouldnt shock me if it was ladd/taffy/vulgard/x (x is amy/boq/hkatt..../monty? maybe csargo).

@EnderWiggin

nut up pal

if I knew spooge was mac I'd have doubled down on the wolf read. He's used that play to pocket me several times in the last year. Not as much recently as we've talked about it in the last several months but it was long enough ago that I wouldn't put it past him to try that again.

I'm not super interested in chopping taffy today. vulgard, boq, amy, monty, dya sure

[Renata]

HK (4): Kagemusha, dya, Renata, Boq
Ender (3), Ladd, Vulgard, Visor
Visor (3): HK, Ender, Taffy
Kagemusha (1): Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy

EOD in 3 hours.

@Rasknolnikov didn't HK vote for Boquise? #1419

[Renata]

@Raskolnikov previous post

[hollowkatt]

HK (4): Kagemusha, dya, Renata, Boq
Ender (3), Ladd, Vulgard, Visor
Visor (3): HK, Ender, Taffy
Kagemusha (1): Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy

EOD in 3 hours.

I'm pretty sure I'm voting for boq unless this didn't count for some reason

vote: boq
come do something interesting

also dya is still on my chopping block today. Visor, Taffy, Ender, Cape, Csargo all probably not.

[Csargo]

villagery post

Sorry if harsh, was just trying to lay my thoughts out plainly.

[Boquise]

I'm pretty sure I'm voting for boq unless this didn't count for some reason

voting me is illegal tbh

[Raskolnikov]

HK (4): Kagemusha, dya, Renata, Boq
Ender (3), Ladd, Vulgard, Visor
Visor (2): Ender, Taffy
Kagemusha (1): Cape
Vulgard (1): Amy
Boq (1): HK

Tx for the back up pals. (saw it but redacted)

[hollowkatt]

voting me is illegal tbh

so is you being as not townie as you're being but I guess I'm the only one noticing it

[Boquise]

so is you being as not townie as you're being but I guess I'm the only one noticing it

whats not townie with my posts tbh?

[hollowkatt]

probs won't be here for EOD so here's my obvs wolfy self-press vote on ender

vote: ender

[Boquise]

probs won't be here for EOD so here's my obvs wolfy self-press vote on ender

vote: ender

i hope you are not planning to log off now because I want you to show me your teeth tbh

[Montmorency]

None of those players were on - wait, I'm furrowing my brow here. In this post you didn't rate the Logic wagon highly as a candidate for scum, preferring to look into your own wagon, yet the names you listed were all on the Logic wagon (minus Cape and Amp). And soon after pointing FOS at "Vulgard, Taffy ,Visor, Renata", you said "Renata/Taffy/Amy/Cape are the people I think have towntold in a significant manner." I'm just having trouble understanding.

Question = "Who do you think could be wolf on Logic wagon."

My response = "I don't think there is (Because I townread a lot of them) BUT IF I WERE TO PICK A NAME IT WOULD BE IN THIS SUBSET."

So, why not just say "Vulgard or Visor from Logic wagon?" Which is where you've been today anyway. And you want to get on my case for nulls...

Also Vulgard is too onside with my viewpoints to honestly be scum.

Ugh.

@Montmorency why was that your guess? any particular reason?

Vibes.

What lots of info will we learn with an Ender flip? @ladd

Lots. Wagonomics. D2 interactions.

Oh thinking is an emoji here lel

Emoticon.

Peeps be puzzling with pizza reads but none seems to have taken mich note of his scum lean on Renata tbh

I'm not good at reading, but last I saw he was townleaning her.

Part of me just wants to ignore everyone else and tunnel Monty + Amy and hope I'm right because I keep being pushed and pulled in different directions.

The best flips for gamestate would probably be flips among day 1 wagons. I don't think Amy has been towny and I'm also partial to the Ender wolfreads. If we have the game backwards and we need to start killing different people then we won't know until we flip in the d1 wagons.

I'd rather not kill Visor, at least not right now.

I don't believe Mafia want to tunnel me at this point, because I am still limbait and there are more dangerous players around for them to clash with. Therefore I don't believe more than two of the leading wagons can be scum (or maybe HK is the counterwagon). Prove me wrong if you wish, I'm still kind of hoping you drop dead at EOD.

I think Hollowkatt is just mafia.

Deec post but I haven't a strong enough command to rule on the content one way or another.

Yes villager Monty, I explode today and kill others.

You being the last person to figure it out makes you town.

I don't think I was anywhere near the last to figure it out, if judging only thread content, and this isn't a good point of discrimination anyway.

So what's the score on Pizza, then? He straight-up failed 2 or even 3 desperado shots? How is that even possible? Are we sure it's not delayed?

Almost makes me hesitate on sheeping on Visor over Ender, but oh well #Trusttheplan Vote: Visor

[Boquise]

This vote is wolfy, the reasons arent given late entry to the game.

Just sucks when townies dont know whats going on.

If this is a wolf I am grumpy because you need to play the game.

This one post threatens to wipe away all reasons I have to townread Renata completely.

The partner analysis here if Wiggin is a wolf is exactly as strong as the townread so far.

I want to believe this is just a really ill advised comment.

Askthepizzaguy
luvs2spooge
Logic
Montmorency
Cape90
Ampharos
Totally not Taffy
Kagemusha
Csargo - not with Katt
Boquise
Ladd

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Renata solely because of that godawful post about Ender.
dyachei can be bussing Ender
Hollowkatt- independently wolfy
EnderWiggin- I think your leans list is killing nothing but villagers for a very long time
Visor- incredibly wolfy game so far
Vulgard- trolling me, gaslit me, insulted me, entire iso is scumtells.

4 wolves in my bottom six names.

this isnt a town lean

[hollowkatt]

whats not townie with my posts tbh?

you're posting like you're coasting






I was tempted to leave it there b/c rhymes and brevity but I figure I do at least owe you an answer that has meat on the bone.
The way you're posting is very reminiscent of someone who doesn't want to make a lot of waves, doesn't want to attract attention, and generally doesn't want to wade into anything complex or potentially outing. Your posting is very safe, basically.

I'm more accustomed to you having strong opinions on things even as you go back and forth about whether or not those opinions are correct to have but here you're very much "I'm going to do x thing..." and then immediately after, or even in the same post you're very much "the thing I've done has burned me before". Your opinions aren't all that strong and the way you're presenting them is basically "I could go along with this" and less "I believe thing to be correct"

[hollowkatt]

i hope you are not planning to log off now because I want you to show me your teeth tbh

fishing for a wolf claim I see. Here's teeth: v--v

[Boquise]

@Montmorency ime it is a bit too classic to say "wagonomics" and "interactions" and then not elaborate. Idk how many times I have seen people yeet someone because "info yeet" and then go "oops" if they flip town then carry on, or go "sweet" if they flipped wolf (although this one is rarer). Or, if town, "this shows both wagons were fucked, wolves could take it easy" and then nothing else really happens

So what solving will you do, based on wagonomics and D2 interactions, will you do if Ender flips town? What specific D2 interactions are you thinking of?

[hollowkatt]

@Montmorency ime it is a bit too classic to say "wagonomics" and "interactions" and then not elaborate. Idk how many times I have seen people yeet someone because "info yeet" and then go "oops" if they flip town then carry on, or go "sweet" if they flipped wolf (although this one is rarer). Or, if town, "this shows both wagons were fucked, wolves could take it easy" and then nothing else really happens

So what solving will you do, based on wagonomics and D2 interactions, will you do if Ender flips town? What specific D2 interactions are you thinking of?

I predict Monty will struggle to answer this in a meaningfully towny way

[Boquise]

you're posting like you're coasting






I was tempted to leave it there b/c rhymes and brevity but I figure I do at least owe you an answer that has meat on the bone.
The way you're posting is very reminiscent of someone who doesn't want to make a lot of waves, doesn't want to attract attention, and generally doesn't want to wade into anything complex or potentially outing. Your posting is very safe, basically.

I'm more accustomed to you having strong opinions on things even as you go back and forth about whether or not those opinions are correct to have but here you're very much "I'm going to do x thing..." and then immediately after, or even in the same post you're very much "the thing I've done has burned me before". Your opinions aren't all that strong and the way you're presenting them is basically "I could go along with this" and less "I believe thing to be correct"

i think your analysis here is correct but with the wrong conclusion.
I am indeed coasting. Coasting in the sense that I am being low energy, and I have had some easy reads.
But I also think I have done some unsafe statements, like being a fence-sitter on Logic and concluding "he is being wolfy but last time I thought so he was town so I wont vote there" is the opposite of safe since it is a classic thing to get scum read for.

I also think it is a bit uh... to discredit my opinions and solving, is short-sighted? Idk how to explain. Like, I have done a pretty constant drive by solving. When I appear, I appear and start asking questions and solve. Then I go silent for several hours. Recency bias! Thats how it feels like tbh

Recency bias are mostly town oriented and it makes sense of you as town to have this point of view, given our last two games tbh
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[Boquise]

I predict Monty will struggle to answer this in a meaningfully towny way

are you then implying that monty is a wolf or that my questions are unhelpful in solving monty tbh?

[hollowkatt]

i think your analysis here is correct but with the wrong conclusion.
I am indeed coasting. Coasting in the sense that I am being low energy, and I have had some easy reads.
But I also think I have done some unsafe statements, like being a fence-sitter on Logic and concluding "he is being wolfy but last time I thought so he was town so I wont vote there" is the opposite of safe since it is a classic thing to get scum read for.

I also think it is a bit uh... to discredit my opinions and solving, is short-sighted? Idk how to explain. Like, I have done a pretty constant drive by solving. When I appear, I appear and start asking questions and solve. Then I go silent for several hours. Recency bias! Thats how it feels like tbh

Recency bias are mostly town oriented and it makes sense of you as town to have this point of view, given our last two games tbh
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I'd rather be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong ones. With the former I can at least learn.

[Boquise]

i have some strong opinions tho

havent wavered on cape and vulgard one bit tbh

[hollowkatt]

i have some strong opinions tho

havent wavered on cape and vulgard one bit tbh

cape town vulgard wolf? That's how I'd divide them

[Boquise]

cape town vulgard wolf? That's how I'd divide them

no, both town

[Boquise]

probs won't be here for EOD so here's my obvs wolfy self-press vote on ender

vote: ender

do you think ender is town?

[Montmorency]

@Montmorency ime it is a bit too classic to say "wagonomics" and "interactions" and then not elaborate. Idk how many times I have seen people yeet someone because "info yeet" and then go "oops" if they flip town then carry on, or go "sweet" if they flipped wolf (although this one is rarer). Or, if town, "this shows both wagons were fucked, wolves could take it easy" and then nothing else really happens

So what solving will you do, based on wagonomics and D2 interactions, will you do if Ender flips town? What specific D2 interactions are you thinking of?

That's all for consideration later. And don't @ me when I'm right here in the thread.

Pizza noted numerous times that he thought of Renata as "village." I'm not going to fish for all of them. I of course don't feel great about Renata, but I don't like you misrepresenting dead-Pizza.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

This vote is wolfy, the reasons arent given late entry to the game.

Just sucks when townies dont know whats going on.

If this is a wolf I am grumpy because you need to play the game.

This one post threatens to wipe away all reasons I have to townread Renata completely.

The partner analysis here if Wiggin is a wolf is exactly as strong as the townread so far.

I want to believe this is just a really ill advised comment.

I currently think she is a villager who doesn't know what she's doing as there hasn't been any useful info so she's grasping at a lot of names she doesn't trust and doesn't have a reason to make a big towncore because that's not her style even though that is the current meta for MU players is building big towncores.

Yeah this is Renata pointing out Vulgard is a wolf, because Vulgard wrote something a townie never writes and said it like it was a sincere thing.

I predict Monty will struggle to answer this in a meaningfully towny way

Correct.

[Renata]

you're posting like you're coasting






I was tempted to leave it there b/c rhymes and brevity but I figure I do at least owe you an answer that has meat on the bone.
The way you're posting is very reminiscent of someone who doesn't want to make a lot of waves, doesn't want to attract attention, and generally doesn't want to wade into anything complex or potentially outing. Your posting is very safe, basically.

I'm more accustomed to you having strong opinions on things even as you go back and forth about whether or not those opinions are correct to have but here you're very much "I'm going to do x thing..." and then immediately after, or even in the same post you're very much "the thing I've done has burned me before". Your opinions aren't all that strong and the way you're presenting them is basically "I could go along with this" and less "I believe thing to be correct"

This is true of both of you. I think of the two of you, Boquise shows a little more life.

[Boquise]

That's all for consideration later. And don't @ me when I'm right here in the thread.

Pizza noted numerous times that he thought of Renata as "village." I'm not going to fish for all of them. I of course don't feel great about Renata, but I don't like you misrepresenting dead-Pizza.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Correct.

I am noticing aggression coming out from nowhere with you tbh
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How should I know that you are in the thread? You have been inactive previously. Sorry, I don't have a Monty signal to know when I can and can't @ you tbh. But alright, fair enough. But if Ender flips town and you do absolutely nothing meaningful with the flip I will tunnel you until you flip, with gloves off.

I missed those posts, but I do not think I misrepresented Pizza. He pointed out something that he found wolfy on Renata. This was ignored. He then walked it back, but he still had that pov for a time tbh.