Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[baudib1]

Ladd and Rask, I’d like you both to talk more about Ender. I kinda buy the idea that they were messy in a villagery way but not totally on board.

[Raskolnikov]

No time rn to add to what I said D1, but l8r prolly yeah

[baudib1]

I have no tangible reason to think eph is a villager but it just kinda feels like they are one

Apoc would crucify me for this read but luckily he isn t here

Eph is a likely villager by virtue of not being as wolfy as the clearly wolfy players, but there’s a clear expiration date on that conditional read (approximately when one of the wolfy players flips V).

[EnderWiggin]

Pre-catchup notes:
I do not think HK is ever wolf with Pzelda. I read this the other way initially on D1 but I think my reasoning for this applies exactly as well the other way around.

Visor/Raskol jumping on PZelda entrance is probably unpaired too.

Need to do spew analysis.

I still really dislike SK's D1, but haven't viewed it in retrospect of Pzelda flip.

Will be around for like an hour if people wanna talk, but will be mostly catching up + spew read

[EnderWiggin]

wisdom died voting me

guess i am outed

Ggggggggg.

Vote: Ladd

[EnderWiggin]

ya sk is almot surely a wolf

i read his big post at eod and i don't think any of the reads he posted are real thoughts

This strangely sounds like something I already said. =P

[EnderWiggin]

for ender it may be silly but i thought this reaction was genuine:




as was his back and forth on zelda/hk wagons. kidna too sloppy/weird to be a wolf

not ruling him out but kinda don't think he is a wolf


hk makes sense as a wolf based on his posting but it doesn't really FEEL right to me. tho who knows, i'd still "peek" him just cause he is always gonna be a talking point

I'll repeat that I don't think Pzelda's entrance + weird townread on HK is w/w.

[EnderWiggin]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...32#post6321732

this is probably the weirdest read i've seen sk make as town if anyone wants to read it

it's not completely analogous to the one in this game because he explicitly said that that one wasn't completely serious

I can understand the sentiment but that doesn't read too much like what I'm seeing this game imo.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.

[EnderWiggin]

Ya prob agree

*Shakes bell*

Because HK is tooooown

[EnderWiggin]

I?m at a total loss on the wisdom kill.

Feels like the kind of kill that wolves would make when they think they're in the towncore and want to ensure they don't rock that boat.

But that's also possibly wifom so idk bruv

[EnderWiggin]

wasnt there a game where monte was on a wolfteam who made a weird kill and monte kept defending the nk itt as good and got outed for it? Or something similar

Sounds like something I could see happening? But I don't recall the game if it did.

[EnderWiggin]

Also it seems like the wolfy players have spewed Syn town but I?d argue they should still be in the vaguely immediate PoE but maybe that?s because I want my microrreads to be correct.

Spew doesn't matter if we close our eyes!

[EnderWiggin]

Its not super clear to me how ladd's on pzelda started, Id would heare more about that tbh. @ladd

I wanna say memory says it felt a lot cleaner than I expect from wolf-Ladd.

Also I will add that Wolf!Ladd is fully capable of pushing my bad villageriness and the fact that he hasn't is strangely a great look.

Like I honestly dunno why wolf!Ladd doesn't see my D1 and then just yeet Pzelda and tie me to that sinking ship so he can yeet me D2.

Unlike last game with Vulgard and the hero shot it probably would've straight worked and I'd be sinking with SK still on the sidelines.

[EnderWiggin]

Wait the coffee tell actually caught a wolf.

That's amazing.

I shall never meme on it ever again.

[EnderWiggin]

I find him nervous, trying to land his vote asap.

Ok, my bad. Just called bunch of people wolves before that vote.
Nervous or Eager, might be both. But right now (and I might be biased) it looks like he's trying too hard to get into the game and maybe get townread by other players while dealing out the minimal amount of townreads himself.
Honestly, it's little early for reads like this, but it is my first impression of Rask.

Yeah Raskol is spewed so hard town.

[EnderWiggin]

Ok, this changes situation. I'm half-taking my previous comment back.

This too.

[EnderWiggin]

Fair enough.
But I would give some credit to HK for being balls to the wall with that read.

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

Kinda looks good for Ladd IMO

[EnderWiggin]

What about his most recent town game? Checking only the wolf game feels biased af.
Not that I tr or sr Logic, It's difficult to spit out a conclusion with posts like that.

Ngl I came into this thinking Logic/Pzelda not w/w but this kinda iffy bruh

[ladd]

Ngl I came into this thinking Logic/Pzelda not w/w but this kinda iffy bruh

Why did you think zelda/logic not w/w?

[EnderWiggin]

Why did you think zelda/logic not w/w?

EOD wagons kinda felt like they were actually competing with the back n forth flow.

[Raskolnikov]

Pre-catchup notes:
I do not think HK is ever wolf with Pzelda. I read this the other way initially on D1 but I think my reasoning for this applies exactly as well the other way around.

Visor/Raskol jumping on PZelda entrance is probably unpaired too.

Need to do spew analysis.

I still really dislike SK's D1, but haven't viewed it in retrospect of Pzelda flip.

Will be around for like an hour if people wanna talk, but will be mostly catching up + spew read

Can you rearticulate why hk is never a wolf with pzelda? Outside of it, what are your reasons to tr him?

I could see you with either fwiw

[Raskolnikov]

I think there is an agenda in Ender's most fecent posts (not HK, wisdom kill meaning there is a wolf in the towncore -which towncore are we talking about, trying to rail Syn for a ML)...

Vote: EnderWiggin

This is a good dome.

[EnderWiggin]

I think there is an agenda in Ender's most fecent posts (not HK, wisdom kill meaning there is a wolf in the towncore -which towncore are we talking about, trying to rail Syn for a ML)...

Vote: EnderWiggin

This is a good dome.

... So solving is agenda now?

Lmao.

Also the Wisdom kill thing was because other people were musing about it. If I actually thought that then I wouldn't be sitting here with my townreads, instead I'd be actively looking to poke who in the towncore I think are sus.

[EnderWiggin]

Can you rearticulate why hk is never a wolf with pzelda? Outside of it, what are your reasons to tr him?

I could see you with either fwiw

I still think his play is in line with the previous game.

Pzelda's first initial fucky posts that end up saying nothing until they just have a weirdo hard townread on HK for no reason.

That just isn't w/w.

[EnderWiggin]

Is remarkableness a word? I agree that HK is crying. He's a sensitive fella. Not sure if he lives up north enough to be frozen.

I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).

It means

V - HK
Null - everyone else

You cannot convince me the above is a wolf entering the thread and talking about another wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

What is my agenda Raskol?

[Raskolnikov]

Can you double check about Syn pls? I do not recall his EOD as being pushy one way or another but thats maybe on me. I only recall him wanting you atbone point fwiw.

Vote: Silverkeith.

[Raskolnikov]

What is my agenda Raskol?

I was thinking w!Ender told himself he can project some shaded on the towncore and make Syn happening. But on reread I agree your post about Wisdom reads differently and I may just be tinfoiling.

[Raskolnikov]

I do agree hk is much more your partner than pzeldas