Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[YOLOSWAG]

@ YOLO wolf readers, if you're a villa

plz go read pzelda's post on me and grasp that his "I like YOLO's reads and will be giving them credence" post was low-level wolfing attempting to pocket a villager 101 and stop overthinking this because I peaced on a vacuous D2 and don't feel like sifting thru shitty misreads on a spewed villager versus wolfy POEing

Thanks

Going to sleep, will be present tomorrow

[baudib1]

I know you're being trolly but Ender very strong villager, we just got done a game where he had some fire reads

Fair enough bub, I’m not trying to stifle your V!game but it feels like Baud-Ender is an inevitable tdome if I’m being honest.

[EnderWiggin]

But here, lemme level with you for a moment.

I'll pretend I think you're town.

So talk to me on this:

Put yourself in my shoes. You are one of the two main POE people. The other name most often mentioned as "POE" is a person you think is probably town. You thought POE was kinda fine but now you think it's just actually bad.

If you're town, what do you do?

You don't go "Hi guys, I think we're all dandy, just might be a smidge of a problem, cause I think the POE is all town."

And then don't point sus any particular way.

You try and find wolves.

Okay, I don't know what you specifically would do in that situation. Maybe you're not going to do that. But honestly take a moment and consider what the world looks like from my perspective.

[baudib1]

Like if you think I'm trying to vague people into sussing someone generally read town it 100% isn't Ladd because I'll defend him for now. I have reasons too. They are a little meta though so it doesn't escape your horrible explanation of me doing "weird meta reads".

For the love of Allah I will recognize you as a NKA savant if you tell me what you they mean, who they point to and why.

[Ephemeral]

I feel like I can say with some amount of accuracy that the following are not wolves:
Rask
Visor
Syn
Ender
Ladd
Dya

I suspect baudib mostly because they've wanted to call me a wolf for days but aren't actually doing anything about it.
I think Eph has some wolf potential as even during D1 they were more "ingratiating and chilling with the homies" than they were about solving the game. They ended up on the right wagon but meh

Yolo is a person of interest but that's the most I can say about them at the moment. Everyone else is dead.

can you clear something up w/r/t your reasoning on baudib here

what exactly do you mean when you say he isn't doing anything about it?

[EnderWiggin]

visor said it first. get your own

Wut?

[Syn]

Wut?

i am pretty sure ladd is a villager for a specific reason i will reveal later if it ever matters

Like if you think I'm trying to vague people into sussing someone generally read town it 100% isn't Ladd because I'll defend him for now. I have reasons too. They are a little meta though so it doesn't escape your horrible explanation of me doing "weird meta reads".

really makes u think

[baudib1]

But here, lemme level with you for a moment.

I'll pretend I think you're town.

So talk to me on this:

Put yourself in my shoes. You are one of the two main POE people. The other name most often mentioned as "POE" is a person you think is probably town. You thought POE was kinda fine but now you think it's just actually bad.

If you're town, what do you do?

You don't go "Hi guys, I think we're all dandy, just might be a smidge of a problem, cause I think the POE is all town."

And then don't point sus any particular way.

You try and find wolves.

Okay, I don't know what you specifically would do in that situation. Maybe you're not going to do that. But honestly take a moment and consider what the world looks like from my perspective.

Of course, I understand what being in the POE means.

If you’re a villager here I need you to help us find each other, which includes stuff like:
1. Articulate your case on me so either I or others can explain why it’s wrong.
2. Help me find where I’m wrong in my villagers, which I guess is Syn, and talk about Visor/dya/ladd too.

I promise you if you go over and flip V I will re-evaluate and incorporate your voice into my reads.

[baudib1]

Ender, I’ll apologize for the trolling.

But surely you recognize I’m a competent and experienced player. The most obvious thing about my game is that I make myself a super obvious villager and now that we’re in a spot where we are close to maybe arguing in good faith, I am being purer than pure here and want you to find me and fix the holes in my worldview. (I’ll admit I only skimmed your Syn case)

[EnderWiggin]

For the love of Allah I will recognize you as a NKA savant if you tell me what you they mean, who they point to and why.

I'm not a NKA savant and wouldn't claim that. I just try to read it.

My vague thought is both kills are people not easy to vote out but also people who aren't heavily in the central group of players calling each other town.

I haven't properly re-read C4 yet to see what I think that points at. And as for Wisdom, I remember my vague thought was that Wisdom wasn't someone who would go along with "Mah towncore" as they often play heavily for trying to sort the game themselves.

The Ladd sus was likely icing on the cake if I had to gth it.

I reserve the right to change these thoughts later when I actually do a proper read and I'm not at work.

[EnderWiggin]

Ender, I’ll apologize for the trolling.

But surely you recognize I’m a competent and experienced player. The most obvious thing about my game is that I make myself a super obvious villager and now that we’re in a spot where we are close to maybe arguing in good faith, I am being purer than pure here and want you to find me and fix the holes in my worldview. (I’ll admit I only skimmed your Syn case)

Everyone in this game is a competent player, I apologise if it ever came across that I wasn't suggesting that.

And I'll be doing a proper re-read of you after work, cause I can't split my attention to do a good ISO while also doing work. (Which is probably bad timezone wise for you but I'm Australian so suck it.)

[Ephemeral]

Vote: hollowkatt

[EnderWiggin]

really makes u think

Except I already explained mine lol.

[baudib1]

Everyone in this game is a competent player, I apologise if it ever came across that I wasn't suggesting that.

And I'll be doing a proper re-read of you after work, cause I can't split my attention to do a good ISO while also doing work. (Which is probably bad timezone wise for you but I'm Australian so suck it.)

Sigh this reads to me like you just wanted to call me a wolf and had no idea why.

[YOLOSWAG]

Everyone in this game is a competent player, I apologise if it ever came across that I wasn't suggesting that.

And I'll be doing a proper re-read of you after work, cause I can't split my attention to do a good ISO while also doing work. (Which is probably bad timezone wise for you but I'm Australian so suck it.)

Didnt know that

Why is every Australian I’ve met randomly good at werewolf lul

Out again

[EnderWiggin]

Sigh this reads to me like you just wanted to call me a wolf and had no idea why.

I stand by my stance that your approach to me earlier felt you were trying to bait me.

I know exactly why I called you a wolf.

You really are trying to engage with me in good faith aren't ya? /s

[baudib1]

@ YOLO wolf readers, if you're a villa

plz go read pzelda's post on me and grasp that his "I like YOLO's reads and will be giving them credence" post was low-level wolfing attempting to pocket a villager 101 and stop overthinking this because I peaced on a vacuous D2 and don't feel like sifting thru shitty misreads on a spewed villager versus wolfy POEing

Thanks

Going to sleep, will be present tomorrow

Dyachei made the point and it made me feel better about considering you clear. Upon recalibration in a tough game with razor-thin edges, and knowing your skills, I have to dial that back a bit and even consider a Yolo-dya world.

[baudib1]

I stand by my stance that your approach to me earlier felt you were trying to bait me.

I know exactly why I called you a wolf.

You really are trying to engage with me in good faith aren't ya? /s

Bait you how?

[EnderWiggin]

You're asking me to read you as pure. I don't right now.

I am giving the benefit of the doubt that I am kneejerking so I want to do a proper read through of you.

But the moment I suggest I'm going to actually give you proper time and consideration into trying to sort you, you instantly respond with a snarky undermining of my stance and suggesting that I'm just making things up.

Not very cashmoney of you friend.

[Ephemeral]

Ngl I came into this thinking Logic/Pzelda not w/w but this kinda iffy bruh

EOD wagons kinda felt like they were actually competing with the back n forth flow.

@EnderWiggin

i know this seems random but it would really help if you clarified the timeline for me here just to make sure I dont misunderstand any of this

after eod1 you thought logic wasn't w/w with pzelda yes?

when exactly did this change

[baudib1]

Didnt know that

Why is every Australian I’ve met randomly good at werewolf lul

Out again

What happened to Visor tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

Bait you how?

Bait me into hard-committing to the Syn read and tdoming there.

[Ephemeral]

What happened to Visor tbh.

clearly forgot he was australian

[baudib1]

You're asking me to read you as pure. I don't right now.

I am giving the benefit of the doubt that I am kneejerking so I want to do a proper read through of you.

But the moment I suggest I'm going to actually give you proper time and consideration into trying to sort you, you instantly respond with a snarky undermining of my stance and suggesting that I'm just making things up.

Not very cashmoney of you friend.

Just give me a quick summary of why you were voting me. It doesn’t need quotes and bells and whistles. Like a guy and vibes thing.

AFAIR you just started randomly addressing me as “Your Honour” the first time you ever said anything to me.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin

i know this seems random but it would really help if you clarified the timeline for me here just to make sure I dont misunderstand any of this

after eod1 you thought logic wasn't w/w with pzelda yes?

when exactly did this change

Logic's D2 pop-in + rereading PZelda made me question it. Specifically, the first quote you have has another quote from PZ that first started the question of if I was wrong.

[Ephemeral]

that's very interesting

thanks for clarifying

[EnderWiggin]

Just give me a quick summary of why you were voting me. It doesn’t need quotes and bells and whistles. Like a guy and vibes thing.

AFAIR you just started randomly addressing me as “Your Honour” the first time you ever said anything to me.

The "Your honour" thing came about because you started questioning an obvious (At least I thought) joke. So I was like "I'm just going to be silly in response and see how long Baudib takes to realise they're literally poking a joke." (Which I could actually paint as wolfy of you, lack of sense of humour! =P )

The vote on you was because I didn't like the EOD and HK was pushing there and I wanted to see what happened if I tried to turn it into an actual wagon. That EOD tbh I didn't 100% have a scumread on you.

[baudib1]

The "Your honour" thing came about because you started questioning an obvious (At least I thought) joke. So I was like "I'm just going to be silly in response and see how long Baudib takes to realise they're literally poking a joke." (Which I could actually paint as wolfy of you, lack of sense of humour! =P )

The vote on you was because I didn't like the EOD and HK was pushing there and I wanted to see what happened if I tried to turn it into an actual wagon. That EOD tbh I didn't 100% have a scumread on you.

Yeah fair enough.

[EnderWiggin]

To clarify "I didn't like the EOD" because I thought the wagons were town, I wasn't talking about your EOD

[baudib1]

Man this game feels hard right now. (TWSS)