Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[Syn]

just kinda sounds like you have an overinflated sense of ego and make up weird reads

if you do something, it's a demonstration of your genius intellect and sun-searing talents

if someone else does it, it's because they're poopy and need help tying their own shoes

ok great

[baudib1]

So like I’ve explained every aspect of my game here multiple times so far and y’all are letting Syn skate by without doing anything for three game days.

The only person who has asked Syn any relevant questions is me and he responded with ‘it was a long time ago.’

So like shrugemoji

This isn’t on me.

[baudib1]

just kinda sounds like you have an overinflated sense of ego and make up weird reads

if you do something, it's a demonstration of your genius intellect and sun-searing talents

if someone else does it, it's because they're poopy and need help tying their own shoes

ok great

When I said I am slightly above average in both alignments that’s was true. I don’t think I’m anything more than that tbh. There’s easily 5-6 villagers in this game better than me. This has been an above average game for me.

[Syn]

So like I’ve explained every aspect of my game here multiple times so far and y’all are letting Syn skate by without doing anything for three game days.

The only person who has asked Syn any relevant questions is me and he responded with ‘it was a long time ago.’

So like shrugemoji

This isn’t on me.

not sure "tell me exactly what you were thinking over a week ago at a specific time" is a relevant question or one that should be expected to have a real answer to it

I was asked by others why I thought you were a wolf and I answered, and I also explained in my vote post. I don't feel a need to belabor the point and find different ways of saying the same thing, nor do I see a need to inject a lot of random noise into the thread with weird self town-cases and appeals to meta, dead people, meta, skill difference, meta, dead people, self-congratulatory back-patting, and meta.

[baudib1]

not sure "tell me exactly what you were thinking over a week ago at a specific time" is a relevant question or one that should be expected to have a real answer to it

I was asked by others why I thought you were a wolf and I answered, and I also explained in my vote post. I don't feel a need to belabor the point and find different ways of saying the same thing, nor do I see a need to inject a lot of random noise into the thread with weird self town-cases and appeals to meta, dead people, meta, skill difference, meta, dead people, self-congratulatory back-patting, and meta.

For three game days you acted like you cannot be asked any questions. Why do you have special immunity?

[baudib1]

anyway this is boring. worst thunderdome ever.

like i get that my game is messy and spazzy and i have weird random thoughts but it's easy to just say "yeet my partner every day!" "I won't answer any questions about anything ever!" and post lolcats.

[Visor]

Aight time for the reread

Frankly there isn?t much of interest in the opening shitposts from either baudib or syn, syns are probably wolfier in general just cause very short, left thread quickly type deal but nothing really worth reading into there

Both syn and baudib jump on hkatt pretty much immediately, syn with a vote and baudib throwing some questions to hkatt, not sure this means anything but just figured given it was something they both did id track it

Pzelda enters, neither comment aorn, baudib is def around and doesn?t comment on either the entrance of pzelda nor the comments about pzeldas entrance (and hes def available to do so cause he makes a shitpost about ladd at the time) (actually he makes two ladd shitposts in a row while pzelda is posting lol)

Baudib makes another shitpost about wisdoms posts ? at this point I guess im confused as to why baudib pulled out HKatt, but didn?t pull out pzelda or comment on the pzelda reads (I know his defence he mentioned earlier but it?s a rhetorical confusion)

Baudib reaffirms that ppl should talk about hkatt more, ender finally shows up

Incidentally, day pops in a little after that and doesn?t have much to say about it either, but they are more catching up and chilling so don?t really care

Baudib votes hkatt at this point, ladd soul reads dya v, dya calls out hkatt as posting similar to last game (as a lost wolf), baudib switches to syn, syn reappears, has some weird reads on pzelda, in one he commiserates with a post pzelda makes and then calls another a fake read, syn switches from hkatt to dya at this point

Rask questions why syn votes dya over pzleda (when he called out pzelda earlier) syn defends with a ?soul reads bad? (which isn?t relevant to the read lol I guess its? an interpretation of the push)

Ender shows up to piggyback dya in pushing hkatt, ender makes his awful post about wagons

Again at this point the sum total of comments by baudib on pzelda and ender (not that I care about ender, ender just entered) is 0, syn has commented? 2-3 times at this point

Ender series of posting ends he turns around on pzelda , syn pops in after that to call ender wolfy

Baudib now shows up at this point and shades ender, dya pops back in to push hkatt again, dya refuses to commit to a read on pzelda or ender

Baudib slight pushes hkatt again, baudib now comes out with the reads list that at the time I liked cause it was similar to the reads list I posted on the previous page, he has ender and pzelda in his wolf list, has not commented on pzelda at this point and has made one comment on an ender post (he does later acknowledge that his list is consensus-y?), baudib has a v read on dya at this point, he +1s a post I make calling enders posts wild+, baudib brinsg up logic at this point, (I don?t think this is necessarily wolfy, logics posts were few and not good), syn votes ender at this point and then baudib votes logic

Syn calls hkatt wagon boring, pzelda shows up again, some of days posts d1 are actually kinda in dya wolfrange lol, like very staccato esque posts, limited reasoning (I will say my iso of them noticed they def improved later on, but just interesting to note aorn), they improve a bit

At this point baudib has made 1 post to ender, and 1 post +1ing a post about ender, syn pops in calling pzelda chop lame

Baudib pops in and posts that logic should become a 2nd wagon (though idc about this as we talked about earlier, this was just? trying to make eod do something) (I also don?t care that baudib thinks logic can be a wolf either cause fuck logics posts sucked lol) theres nothing really at this eod worth noting I think, baudib mentions for sketchy ppl to go back to pzelda but that was all part of the fake cfd stuff anyway

That?s d1

D2:
Baudib pushes hkatt at sod, syn makes some weak entry posts, highlights his own post about pzelda being wrong, votes ender before dipping, ender finally show sup d2, scumreads syn a bit, later drops a ?case? on syn, well its not really a case but he does quote a lot of posts, dya pops in with some spew reads, semi townreads ender. Im actually kinda shocked that baudib STILL didn?t really comment on either enders or pzeldas posts (he might?ve had a comment asking how do we treat pzeldas post earlier on d2 but still), baudib says he doesn?t quite understand days clearance of ender, dya shifts to pushing ender at this point, guess baudib def aint bringing up the SK wolfread of him LOL, baudib kinda treading water a bit but p understandable I think, baudib and sk get in an argument together, baudib votes ender with some quoted posts but I don?t really understand the connection, baud comments on ender gain, then unvotes him and goes back to sk, syn mildly pushes ender

Ender has a bit of a jig with syn

End of d2 ? not a huge amount of note there
D3, synb starts by pushing ender, ender still pushing the syn train (which is a little weird, I almost get vibes of dead wolf setting up the failed bus type thing given he is just rusted onto syn but not actually doing anything about it)

Okay I think ive got a decent picture of the game and the progressions and i remember most of what happened after there anyway

ill write up where im at in a little while

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PS. sorry for the massive commentary post lol but i wanted to keep track of what was happening

[Visor]

So the way I see it we have two possible tales:

The syn wolf is one where syn doesn?t really have a lot to say in the early game, he mostly provides shitpost, some commentary, the occasional read. His major read on note is ender and he only really gets into the game later on once its clear that hes got the setup to get in. ender engages in a theatrical bus with syn to distance and set syn up to go deep, especially because syn isn?t someone who is naturally particuarlyl villagey, and its just the? typical thing to do, you get in the distancing when you know you are going down. I don?t have much experience with syn as a wolf, the only game I can recall playing with syn w was mario mafia on cfc years ago and he didn?t have much to add in that one and might?ve tried to bus? Idr, zack talked to me about it some point after the game but that was like a billion years ago in mafia land

The baudib wolf world has baudib creating a lot of pro wolf wagons by pushing villagers in the early game, and pretty much refusing to touch his wolf bros. he makes the occasional comment but never really puts his wolf bros under any heat or pressure on either d1 or d2. On d3 onwards he steps it up a bit, but by that stage obv you have to actually do something re ender so he puts the foot down with some interactions and baudib uses these to set himself up for endgame. (yes baudib does vote pzelda but pzelda was dead in the water and wolf baudib wouldve known that)

The funny thing is, baudib talking about all his meta has made me think he might be more likely to be a wolf lol, because he v barely engages with the pushes around ender and pzelda, and while the few things he has to say about ender are not exactly positive, he makes no effort to actually make ender a serious topic until d3, and at that point ender starts becoming a real target

I think syn has posted markedly better than baudib in the back half of the game, and he has echoed a number of my thoughts on baudibs posting ? baudib has exaggerated and revised a lot of what he has done in this game in this day phase and has cherry picked and phrased things in ways that are?. Not disingenuous but perhaps not completely accurately

That said I am a little worried I am giving a pass to syn just for posting better when his progression in the game could be a sort of typical wolf bus setup. Gun to my head I might have to go baudib simply because I think his posting today has faltered and syn has stepped up, plus the early ignoring of the pzelda posts and the posts AROUND pzelda. The ender stuff is not till much later in the game and holds a lot less relevance to me at that point. baudib has had a kind of appeal esque play to his game this phase which is in pretty stark contrast to syns, this is where im at, take it or leave it, which i think i am more naturally inclined to villa read, id love your thoughts on this dya when you get a chance

If it is syn, theres a clear bus path and it obv makes sense in a simple, wolves distance to send one deep type thing im just having a bit of a hard time pulling the trigger on it

idk bros

dya pls help

[Visor]

i will say that while baudib did push hkatt and logic and so on, i don't think they are bad pushes or that he pushed them in a wolfy manner - i also thought they were wolfy and their posts were bad, in a vacuum i think those pushes are fine

[Visor]

its basically:

syn: tunnel bus into win game

baudib: try to eke bros out and then take it deep and overpower

@dyachei thoughts please

[Visor]

baudib if you are a villa you gotta step it up man, whatever you are doing rn is not working

please

[baudib1]

baudib if you are a villa you gotta step it up man, whatever you are doing rn is not working

please

Step up how? I’ve said all I can say really.

[baudib1]

The way to read me is:

If I vote a wolf, I?m a villager.

[baudib1]

You’re just overthinking it and saying I need to do more is really just mildly insulting when I’m going to be less poster in this game by probably 300+ posts and I said you should have these conversations on D4 and was told it was Wolfy to talk about F3 then.

I made it really easy for people to find me this game. This is such an easy win when we had a much better team against a wolf team that struggled out the gate. I put a lot of effort in this and I honestly just don’t think I should even be on the table today and I don’t see how my posting has faltered. I’ve completely emptied out my head and my thoughts behind everything in the game vs someone who refuses to do anything and hasn’t had a thought other than Kill Ender the entire game.

You and Dya have barely responded to my posts for three days and are both like “well I don’t really know Baudib’s game either,’ when you both she played multiple games with me. Also you had the world’s foremost Wolf Baudib expert in the game and just ignored his input too.

[baudib1]

D1 is, me, calling out a wolf (Syn) as literally the first serious post of the game, then have HKatt guaranteeing he?s a villager for ~ no reason ~
Zelda saying ?is remarkableness a word? Etc?

Then Zelda gets voted, ladd comments that he hasn?t talked about Zelda either but votes him, his wagon is at 6-7 already. The day is a foregone conclusion with the top players in the game already voting Zelda with very little communication about it. I didn?t say ?chopping Zelda is lame.? I called out Ender?s post about the wagons as not a real thought. And frankly, I just never wanted to engage with him because I found his tone and posting style so obnoxious (see the whole ?Your Honor?) bit. Also there were 12 other players in the game, all of whom knew better than exactly the Zelda/Ender/Syn team.

It?s strange to me because my thoughts and reads this game have pretty much always mirrored Visor/Dya throughout, have always been on the same page basically. This is not to call out other players, but it always felt like an uphill battle to try to get Ender lunched because many of them were arguing against it. Ironically, I felt like I was vibing really hard with Syn in midgame and probably why I acquired a V read on him because I was wanting to get Ender lunches. I said to him probably on D3 that the three of us were going to get it done. That?s in the face of multiple people still trying to say Ender was a villager or didn?t make sense with Zelda or whoever.

[baudib1]

And once again the idea that I didn’t try to get Ender lunched is just ridiculous. I spent the day poking around Ephe/Yolo and no one was interested. I said in bold letters I didn’t want to go with the HKatt lunch. I voted Ender to put him at 4-3 and Ephe who has a red check on him (look no one RBs n2 when ladd is an obvious save and ladd didn’t RB either) votes for HKatt.

My vote on Ender in that spot is potentially the most important vote in the entire game if that doesn’t happen.

[baudib1]

The Zelda thing to me was just one of those rare instances where someone outs themselves in their first two posts and I was still trying to figure out whether or not Syn/HK had outed themselves in their first two posts.

There was barely any debate about Zelda other than Ender?s dumb comment, which I called out. It was a total group mindmeld that ?ok this guy is getting lunched.?

[baudib1]

Actually Ephemeral didn’t move from Ender, he was on HK all day???????

It was Visor/Yolo who moved to HK.

[baudib1]

I?m just going to consider this game a solo adventure where I called out Syn off his first two posts and had Zelda/Ender in my bottom two on D1. Probably the best D1 I?ve ever had in a game this size.

You kids have fun.

[dyachei]

@Visor

I feel pretty much the same way about their reads.

I guess one concern is that baudib keeps talking about how he's not a busser. People that are aware of their meta are able to manipulate it more

I think the big difference is that this is how I've seen syn play before as a villager.
@baudib1 I'm not responding to you because you just keep self-metaing and there's nothing to respond to. I don't trust yolo's reads over mine. I don't know how well ladd reads you. I'm going off of MY reads. Stop trying to convince me to go off dead player reads

[dyachei]

I?m just going to consider this game a solo adventure where I called out Syn off his first two posts and had Zelda/Ender in my bottom two on D1. Probably the best D1 I?ve ever had in a game this size.

You kids have fun.

why did you have them in the bottom 2 d1? you never said why, they just appeared there

[dyachei]

also like...you're approaching visor/myself in a pretty aggressively negative way

you've basically implied we're stupid if we dont vote syn, we're stupid for not listening to ladd's and yolo's reads, we're lying about what you've posted, etc etc

[dyachei]

idk just seems weird because you keep wanting us to interact with you but your posts are pretty antagonistic

I'm off to go see a movie. Will check in when i get back

[Syn]

I don?t have much experience with syn as a wolf, the only game I can recall playing with syn w was mario mafia on cfc years ago and he didn?t have much to add in that one and might?ve tried to bus? Idr, zack talked to me about it some point after the game but that was like a billion years ago in mafia land

I was salty because takh and zack suddenly bussed me without asking me about it

newbie vibes

glad I care significantly less nowadays lol

[Visor]

I was salty because takh and zack suddenly bussed me without asking me about it

newbie vibes

glad I care significantly less nowadays lol

yep that rings a bell
@dyachei

im around, let me know when you get back

[dyachei]

yep that rings a bell
@dyachei

im around, let me know when you get back

am back @Visor

[Visor]

@Visor

I feel pretty much the same way about their reads.

I guess one concern is that baudib keeps talking about how he's not a busser. People that are aware of their meta are able to manipulate it more

I think the big difference is that this is how I've seen syn play before as a villager.
@baudib1 I'm not responding to you because you just keep self-metaing and there's nothing to respond to. I don't trust yolo's reads over mine. I don't know how well ladd reads you. I'm going off of MY reads. Stop trying to convince me to go off dead player reads

this still where you're at?

[dyachei]

this still where you're at?

yes? sort of? im second guessing myself often

[Visor]

The Zelda thing to me was just one of those rare instances where someone outs themselves in their first two posts and I was still trying to figure out whether or not Syn/HK had outed themselves in their first two posts.

There was barely any debate about Zelda other than Ender?s dumb comment, which I called out. It was a total group mindmeld that ?ok this guy is getting lunched.?

i mean, there was definitely some debate around zelda, at the very least having to do with enders posts about him

Then Zelda gets voted, ladd comments that he hasn?t talked about Zelda either but votes him, his wagon is at 6-7 already. The day is a foregone conclusion with the top players in the game already voting Zelda with very little communication about it. I didn?t say ?chopping Zelda is lame.? I called out Ender?s post about the wagons as not a real thought. And frankly, I just never wanted to engage with him because I found his tone and posting style so obnoxious (see the whole ?Your Honor?) bit. Also there were 12 other players in the game, all of whom knew better than exactly the Zelda/Ender/Syn team.

no, syn said chopping zelda is lame (sorry, i think the post is probably a little indecipherable lol, i wrote it more for me lol)

i def understand not havin a lot to say about it, but you had basically nothing to say about it

like you didnt even comment on people commenting on it lol

[Visor]

yes? sort of? im second guessing myself often

how likely is it do you think that syn plays it like this as a wolf