Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[illario]

ive never seen ladd meet so little resistance in a game lol, idk what that means but it might mean something

[Vulgard]

okay now i have an independent townread on cape as well, those last few posts were quite good

[illario]

how do i iso

[ladd]

ive never seen ladd meet so little resistance in a game lol, idk what that means but it might mean something

i think the more i post the more people are paranoid of me

so the solution is just to do nothing. wish i figured it out 4 years ago tho

[ladd]

how do i iso

click on "replies" on the thread. its like the syndicate

[illario]

I put my cigarette out beneath my boot and try to take in what it is I see before me. There are some random mutterings, a large Lapras saying its own name, and already a man slapping the back of another and declaring them trustworthy. One even remarks they sure are glad they are not a wolf in Sheep's clothing. Funny enough I think I believe it.

@Achro why did u believe dya over there?

[Achro]

Anyway I have errands to run soon and it isn't out of the possibility that when I am done I just crash so here's a list of people I don't have a good reason to not vote today.

Boq
dyachei
EnderWiggin
illario
ladd
Syn
Wisdom

My lack of a strong feeling of a scum read makes me think I might have a blindspot in my reasoning on one of illario/ender since I am purposefully trying to be distant on those slots to see what develops. But at the same time this could apply to dya as well who is just unable to be here atm. If there is any scum in that group then it only requires a couple of people to be a timely playing well.

I feel like everyone not named I have a good reason to think they are town. Most likely misclears are nutella (relies a bit much on me reading into how they would treat me), robyn (is a bit off from how I imagine they would treat me, or rask (if they are a good power wolf then that uninformed stance would probably be in their wheel house)

I usually miss one smh

[Achro]

@Achro why did u believe dya over there?

I tend to think wolves get in their own head about posting stuff like that early and delete it rather than posting it. Enough for an early town lean anyway.

[ladd]

id have prob believed dya opening as well if they didnt make the exact same opening last game over here (as a villager)

it got them (rightfully) villa read them in that game so i think its pretty ez for dya to decide to re do it as a wolf

[illario]

click on "replies" on the thread. its like the syndicate

i dont see it lol, i do however see an option to report you

[Achro]

id have prob believed dya opening as well if they didnt make the exact same opening last game over here (as a villager)

it got them (rightfully) villa read them in that game so i think its pretty ez for dya to decide to re do it as a wolf

Well yes, that does negate any sort of reliability it has lol.

[ladd]

i dont see it lol, i do however see an option to report you

click replies here

[Vulgard]

achro/boq/dya/illario/ladd/lapras/visor/wisdom

achro - liked a few small things but always found reasons not to like them all that much, frankly i think i WANT him to be town more than he's been actually towny, i think his treatment of my slot is probably the towniest thing that he's done because he appears inquisitive there whereas my experience with wolves reading me is that they are more opportunistic

boq - frankly his posting just doesn't really register in my brain and it's completely my fault, i can't say i've found him super towny, wouldn't mind him getting day 1ed, one thing i noticed is that he seems less self-assured about his slot than usual (i'm accustomed to him being snarky when suspected and i don't think i've seen that this game) which i think is wolfy for him but i haven't given his posts due diligence yet so i'll likely do that soon

dya - can barely play today and has explained why, realistically this is null and i don't want to go here d1

illario - i think he's very subdued, frankly i'm still waiting for him to get into the game, if i were to make a judgment call on his alignment right now i would say he's a wolf playing for thread positioning with cards close to his chest but i'm nowhere near confident enough on that call to push him rn, he had that ender/achro thought process earlier which looked like agenda to me when i saw it but i decided to give him time and he didn't evolve the thought which i'm not sure what it means but i might as well mention it right now as i don't think he'll be progressing with these thoughts any time soon anyway, tldr i'm actually leaning wolf but not confident enough to push it through rn

ladd - similar case but he had a couple of posts that looked solid enough, the wolfread on boq in particular is different from how he treated and pushed his wolfread on ender when he was a wolf in the last game i played here; i don't sense agenda in this boq read, while the ender read in the previous game i played with ladd was an agenda-based read; he's just approaching it differently and i lean him town for it

lapras - i still don't think he's been towny and i feel like he's lost this game (which is the most charitable way i can put it), i find his wolfreads suspect because the wisdom take seems undercooked and the wolfread on me is just omgus, our townreads were similar at least but the places in which we had the same townreads were not exactly difficult conclusions to reach fmpov so it could be a wolf bending to the threadstate in that way, i feel like i'm somewhat likely to be confbiasing here so i'm trying to stay open to other options but i don't think his responses to me have been great either, i should probably stop talking about this slot here

visor - he said he's barely had time to play the game and i believe him, similar case to dya, he does have a bit more content but i don't think he's particularly readable off that content

wisdom - the fact i don't have a townread there yet is maybe alarming but we've barely posted around the same time as one another, instinctively i don't really want to kill them and i feel like they might be town but i don't have an actual reason to believe this

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summary:

adding ladd to my townreads

don't want to execute dya or visor today

also don't want to execute wisdom but i don't have a reason for it so if others feel confident it's a hit i'm willing to go along with it

kinda don't want to go achro but it's for biased reasons so same deal here

boq/illario/lapras are my preference, but i'm hesitant on illario, i have to properly read boq, and i think i might be confbiased on lapras, so i can't say i feel great about any of these three reads rn lmao

i'd like to discuss these slots with others honestly

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sorry if that was hard to read but i find myself having an easier time expressing my mafia-related thoughts when i do it like this

[Vulgard]

big tl;dr: i'd like to discuss boq illario lapras achro wisdom

if my townreads don't have a misclear (which they might but i'm hoping they don't) and if dya/visor are both villagers (which is unclear rn but i'm basically giving them a pass for today) this grouping contains all the wolves

it's... probably not that simple but yeah

[Vulgard]

actually i think lapras is the most important to discuss because if i really am tunneled there i need to get out of it now

[robyn]

vulgard did u forget about me

[Achro]

@Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.

[Vulgard]

vulgard did u forget about me

no i just think you're town rn and i've been focusing on slots other than you

are you asking for attention?

[illario]

@Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.

thats solid advice imo

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.

i'm not actually sure if that's a factor in my read on you, but i did notice that you've been playing differently

i'm trying to adapt my reading of you to that fact

[robyn]

no i just think you're town rn and i've been focusing on slots other than you

are you asking for attention?

only if you mean sexually

[Vulgard]

only if you mean sexually

you're asking the wrong person

[Achro]

thats solid advice imo

Before all of the bad times, I non difference checked jack/nanook/someone else(I forget now) as soon as I came in for all being fooled by scum. And if I had just stuck to that maybe things go different.

Focused achro is strong achro.

[Vulgard]

i feel like if i hadn't played with illario several times i'd be pushing him hard rn

[illario]

Before all of the bad times, I non difference checked jack/nanook/someone else(I forget now) as soon as I came in for all being fooled by scum. And if I had just stuck to that maybe things go different.

Focused achro is strong achro.

i believe you and dont disagree on the latter either

[illario]

i feel like if i hadn't played with illario several times i'd be pushing him hard rn

LOL, i do tend to attract that with people who arent familiar with me

[illario]

i feel like this games either gonna be fairly straight forward or pretty tough, hopefully it will be evident after d1

@ladd why did u think it was medium difficulty?

[robyn]

illario feels off but i don’t think it’s ai

it’s also comparable to the feeling off feeling i felt in tacky matrix game

[illario]

Ok well robyns likely town

@Lapras why?

[illario]

illario feels off but i don’t think it’s ai

it’s also comparable to the feeling off feeling i felt in tacky matrix game

who do you think are wolves atm?