13er summer game thread

[Cuthillius]

Dyachei(2): katze, ender
Visor(1): Cape
Cape(1): ladd
Katze (2): insomnia, cuth
Achro(2): Visor, Taffy
Taffy(2): benneh, SK
Not voting (3): Dyachei, achro, Winston

Will be driving today. Should post more tallies close to EOD.

@Raskolnikov i was (and still am) voting visor

Anyway I think I like Visor's vote on me now when earlier I didn't. I 5hink he would be wary of just having a vote chill on a villager for most of the day and not care that I didn't like it as a wolf since he knows I can be prickly at times. Nothing too indicative or anything since he is just floating with it but maybe more town than scum.

respectfully, i don't think w!visor would be super worried about that, either from how it would look in retrospect or from you getting prickly

eh. i guess "threadspewed town" probably never applied to them. @Cuthillius i noticed you never rly commented on taffy during that period of posts, whys that?

there was nothing that felt significant to me really? i still don't have any opinion on taffy's posts

i also think i skimmed past the stuff and i mostly know about it from reading other people talk about it

i don't think casually digging through other people's past games right off the bat is a super ai thing on its own though

wolf rangevilla range

shitpost range

this post made me very happy

i feel like when cuth commented it wasn't very memorable and didn't really move the thread at all. That's why cuth

not for lack of trying! i legit made myself stop checking the thread as regularly yesterday because every time i tried to engage people they were just shutting down conversations and refusing to respond and the thread just didn't feel good and i felt like i would get snippy and passive aggressive if i was posting more

also meh

i kind of wonder if cape is slightly threadspewed town because almost no one is v reading him

i've been turning this thought around in my head for the last 24 hours or so

i'm surprised how much pressure has stayed on him throughout-- it's kinda normal to have this sort of dynamic, be it vs villager or wolf, especially in a game with this kind of playerlist (see c4 from that one game several of us played in last year), but idk

everything's felt excruciatingly stagnant and i don't think it's all because it's a post capped game and i haven't played mafia in ages and i'm currently starving for distraction from schoolwork lol

[dyachei]

@Raskolnikov i was (and still am) voting visor

respectfully, i don't think w!visor would be super worried about that, either from how it would look in retrospect or from you getting prickly

there was nothing that felt significant to me really? i still don't have any opinion on taffy's posts

i also think i skimmed past the stuff and i mostly know about it from reading other people talk about it

i don't think casually digging through other people's past games right off the bat is a super ai thing on its own though

this post made me very happy

not for lack of trying! i legit made myself stop checking the thread as regularly yesterday because every time i tried to engage people they were just shutting down conversations and refusing to respond and the thread just didn't feel good and i felt like i would get snippy and passive aggressive if i was posting more

also meh

i've been turning this thought around in my head for the last 24 hours or so

i'm surprised how much pressure has stayed on him throughout-- it's kinda normal to have this sort of dynamic, be it vs villager or wolf, especially in a game with this kind of playerlist (see c4 from that one game several of us played in last year), but idk

everything's felt excruciatingly stagnant and i don't think it's all because it's a post capped game and i haven't played mafia in ages and i'm currently starving for distraction from schoolwork lol

hi cuth!

I am happy to be playing with you again. Sorry I made you meh.

I do agree it's hard to engage people this game

[Totally not Taffy]

not for lack of trying! i legit made myself stop checking the thread as regularly yesterday because every time i tried to engage people they were just shutting down conversations and refusing to respond and the thread just didn't feel good and i felt like i would get snippy and passive aggressive if i was posting more

I do agree it's hard to engage people this game

Would you two prefer to chat rather than have me read up rn? Mind you I have very few opinions yet.

[dyachei]

Would you two prefer to chat rather than have me read up rn? Mind you I have very few opinions yet.

why dont we start with what reads you do have and why?

[Cuthillius]

why dont we start with what reads you do have and why?

@Cuthillius thanks this post.

[Totally not Taffy]

why dont we start with what reads you do have and why?

Ladd would be my strongest townread atm. Ender, Cape and Katze very lightly.

Nothing really pinged me in the first 100 posts outside of Achro, especially since I've now reached his post where he suspects Ladd for downplaying his abilities when that's exactly what he's doing himself.

[Cuthillius]

Ladd would be my strongest townread atm. Ender, Cape and Katze very lightly.

Nothing really pinged me in the first 100 posts outside of Achro, especially since I've now reached his post where he suspects Ladd for downplaying his abilities when that's exactly what he's doing himself.

to follow up on what dya said, could you go into a bit more reasoning on why you have the first four reads?

and if you've not been able to catch up to a place where you can explain/justify reads beyond gut feel, then I'd appreciate your doing so before having these interactions

[dyachei]

Ladd would be my strongest townread atm. Ender, Cape and Katze very lightly.

Nothing really pinged me in the first 100 posts outside of Achro, especially since I've now reached his post where he suspects Ladd for downplaying his abilities when that's exactly what he's doing himself.

what pinged you specifically about achro

[Cuthillius]

i don't think that achro's been wildly villagery, but i think they've been villagery enough that i'm definitely not interested in going there today and feel fine about being able to figure them out down the road if need be

[Cuthillius]

hi cuth!

I am happy to be playing with you again. Sorry I made you meh.

I do agree it's hard to engage people this game

<3 <3

thank you for this post!

and no worries

glad you're playing too and good to see you around in general!

i guess it feels like it's already somewhat in the general vibe where a lot of these "stacked" playerlists end up where d1 is just everyone standing around being like idk a lot of people are either villagery or i don't super wanna vote them so maybe we'll just have a few little spats and otherwise try to pretend we're not gonna vote one of the less experienced players at eod

which is i think broadly okay and to be expected to some extent

but on top of that when some of the people who like are in the poe and could be sorted are just refusing to elaborate or talk through their thoughts it's frustrating

[Totally not Taffy]

i guess it feels like it's already somewhat in the general vibe where a lot of these "stacked" playerlists end up where d1 is just everyone standing around being like idk a lot of people are either villagery or i don't super wanna vote them so maybe we'll just have a few little spats and otherwise try to pretend we're not gonna vote one of the less experienced players at eod

which is i think broadly okay and to be expected to some extent

I disagree btw, first of all it makes no logical sense to me that you'd start by sifting through the players you know the least and secondly it makes for a very unwelcoming experience for newer players.

[Cuthillius]

I disagree btw, first of all it makes no logical sense to me that you'd start by sifting through the players you know the least and secondly it makes for a very unwelcoming experience for newer players.

i think a lot of the players i know the best i've known for long enough to know that in most circumstances they're not going to be obviously villagery or wolfy right off the bat, while that isn't necessarily the case for the people i know less well (though it could be)

it's not like i'm not trying to sort other people or avoiding asking the people i know questions

and also it's not even a thing of people i know well or don't-- as you probably know, ender is from GitP and we've technically been playing together for like 10 years, but i still think it's easier to sort him than, say, katze or ladd

but i think i do agree with you to some extent in that i don't think it's the funnest way to play, and isn't nice when you're one of the consensus poe people just because you're not one of the big scary veterans, but like unless unexpected things happen this is just how these sorts of games tend to start, because it rarely makes sense to roll the dice super hard off the bat and that can put the game off on a really wrong foot if done badly

idk if the above words make sense

but i guess my point is that when i say broadly okay i don't mean strictly ideal i just mean it happens and it happens for reasons and idk

[Totally not Taffy]

i think a lot of the players i know the best i've known for long enough to know that in most circumstances they're not going to be obviously villagery or wolfy right off the bat, while that isn't necessarily the case for the people i know less well (though it could be)

it's not like i'm not trying to sort other people or avoiding asking the people i know questions

and also it's not even a thing of people i know well or don't-- as you probably know, ender is from GitP and we've technically been playing together for like 10 years, but i still think it's easier to sort him than, say, katze or ladd

but i think i do agree with you to some extent in that i don't think it's the funnest way to play, and isn't nice when you're one of the consensus poe people just because you're not one of the big scary veterans, but like unless unexpected things happen this is just how these sorts of games tend to start, because it rarely makes sense to roll the dice super hard off the bat and that can put the game off on a really wrong foot if done badly

idk if the above words make sense

but i guess my point is that when i say broadly okay i don't mean strictly ideal i just mean it happens and it happens for reasons and idk

For me it's more repeated experiences of people saying "I know this person well, I'll find them in FX" and then getting snowed in said FX while the newer players that sussed the wolf are dead. But eh.

[dyachei]

For me it's more repeated experiences of people saying "I know this person well, I'll find them in FX" and then getting snowed in said FX while the newer players that sussed the wolf are dead. But eh.

Im definitely not doing that fwiw. Benneh is probably one of my favorite people to play with and I outed a wolf read on him d1 lol

so lets talk about other things

[Totally not Taffy]

to follow up on what dya said, could you go into a bit more reasoning on why you have the first four reads?

and if you've not been able to catch up to a place where you can explain/justify reads beyond gut feel, then I'd appreciate your doing so before having these interactions

The way they're approaching the game, combined with how I've seen them play in the past, mostly.

what pinged you specifically about achro

Scroll up a bit, I replied to a post of his asking the same.

i don't think that achro's been wildly villagery, but i think they've been villagery enough that i'm definitely not interested in going there today and feel fine about being able to figure them out down the road if need be

Funny cross post is funny

[Visor]

Uh I definitely voted cape?

Vote: Cape90

@Raskolnikov

[Raskolnikov]

Uh I definitely voted cape?

Vote: Cape90

@Raskolnikov

Cape(5): ladd, insomnia, Dyachei, katze, Visor
Katze (2): Winston, ender
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
Visor(1): Cape
Taffy(1): SK
Sk(1): achro
Ender(1): benneh

Not voting (0):

[dyachei]

vote: Silverkeith

[insomnia]

vote: katze

[EnderWiggin]

<3 <3

thank you for this post!

and no worries

glad you're playing too and good to see you around in general!

i guess it feels like it's already somewhat in the general vibe where a lot of these "stacked" playerlists end up where d1 is just everyone standing around being like idk a lot of people are either villagery or i don't super wanna vote them so maybe we'll just have a few little spats and otherwise try to pretend we're not gonna vote one of the less experienced players at eod

which is i think broadly okay and to be expected to some extent

but on top of that when some of the people who like are in the poe and could be sorted are just refusing to elaborate or talk through their thoughts it's frustrating

I want it on record that I also don't enjoy this facet and actively try and work against it. Which is mildly amusing because I think I'm being accused of being closed off and encouraging it here. =P