Cereal killer mafia

[Montmorency]

I haven't had a D1 quite like this in a long, long time.

Wagons are

3 Rask/Monty
2 Syn/Bart

Only Kage not voting/posting.

I'll only be back for EOD hour, so don't go too crazy uWu.

[ladd]

I absolutely saw the Syn post and was already thinking it and it *is* part of why I voted there.

I just prefer pressure over RVS =P

So your wolf read on monty is real?

Can you explain why?

[ladd]

If i stop posting it means i went to sleep

Feel like the good stuff will happen last 2ish hours of today but i def wont be awake for it


I am warming up to Sui, maybe i am just falling for their good tone but their posting seems okay

I feel like i should be concerned about rask (and maybe i am) but their SoD was still good enough that i dont wanna vote them today

[Jan]

We are about to start watching "Life is Beautiful" (1997).

Which means I am around for another 2 hours or so.

[Wisdom]

Going to bed

vote: Montmercy

Glgl

[EnderWiggin]

Going to bed

And I am awake. The revolving door works once more.

[Visor]

id prefer either ender or wisdom to die i thikn

prob ender

[Suibian]

What makes you feel that way about monty s recent posts?

His 166 and 167 felt a bit more natural? Looking back there's not a huge reason why and scum could definitely feel a bit more natural as they settle in from early awkwardness, but I liked I liked the scary mind meld with a catch response to taffy and your read's posts, and I liked the bit about bracing himself for humiliatingly misreading ender or kage.

So, yeah not enough to go this guy is town, but enough for me to consider that I might just be confused by his earlier approach.

[Sleep]

that's not a dismissive question btw literally who is sleep

do I know you from anywhere

no don't think so, we might have been in a game once years ago

I feel like Sleep was in a game recent-ish (for me who barely plays these days) and they were revealed to be someone I know.

I can't be bothered to check tho.

Gira on MU, i assume it's been discussed but just for clarity's sake will confirm

anyway

to your actual questions

I feel they answer themselves honestly (wolfy use of honestly)

rask stayed up specifically to spam copypastas and then leaned extremely hard into a town read on me, and he usually ingratiates himself to me when he's wolfing before doing a sudden 180 on d2/d3

i don't have a lot of experience with monty besides getting stomped in a game on CFC years ago, but I associate his analytical approach with genuine solving, and I don't feel there is genuine solving involved here. they're smart-sounding posts for the sake of appearing smart. there isn't really much you can do on d1, tbf, but that's why you just go with vibes instead of milking a rock for all it's worth

I don't have an answer to the associations question since creating worlds on d1 is lame-o spaghetti-o (pls ignore my el barto post thanks)

dunno this all feels extremely reachy

in particular "stayed up specifically to spam copypastas" is a big nothing, beyond that your sole point is he is townreading you which is not terribly convincing

im not necessarily asking about worldviews but montys whole game basically has been built around criticizing rask and it feels like ur not actually trying to analyze what hes saying so much as you decided to call him scum on page 1 and then use any reason to justify it, i would expect a townie to try to reduce cognitive dissonance there but it looks like a very vague generic attack rather than anything based on his actual content

[Totally not Taffy]

Who's misyeet bait?

The person who didn't recognise a pasta for what it was and/or didn't look at the player list
The person who reacted poorly under pressure
The person who made one naked vote and no other posts

These people could be wolves, but this is all very obvious stuff other players are going to scumread you for, and both Jan and Syn are making much more out of it than is warranted for what is probably going to turn out NAI flubbing.

id prefer either ender or wisdom to die i thikn

prob ender

Why not me?
The player who makes posts that are good enough on tone not to immediately ping you but without sticking with you is more likely scum.

[Sleep]

How does it feel to replace into a scum slot? Sweatin cold buckets?

Couldn’t resist going back to bed.

i'm loving it, already plotting how to troll you by openwolfing in your face again

[Sleep]

Why not me?
The player who makes posts that are good enough on tone not to immediately ping you but without sticking with you is more likely scum.

are you trying to argue visor should be scumreading you

[Visor]

The person who didn't recognise a pasta for what it was and/or didn't look at the player list
The person who reacted poorly under pressure
The person who made one naked vote and no other posts

These people could be wolves, but this is all very obvious stuff other players are going to scumread you for, and both Jan and Syn are making much more out of it than is warranted for what is probably going to turn out NAI flubbing.



Why not me?
The player who makes posts that are good enough on tone not to immediately ping you but without sticking with you is more likely scum.

we've voted each other enough :P

[Totally not Taffy]

are you trying to argue visor should be scumreading you

It's D1 and I'm playing with a bunch of people who have never played with me before, from experience my expectation is to get pushed.

All of you cannot be experts in reading awkward lowposters. And mostly I'm trying to push Visor for a read but well...

we've voted each other enough :P

mission failed.

[EnderWiggin]

id prefer either ender or wisdom to die i thikn

prob ender

[EnderWiggin]

Me: Posts I'm awake
Also me: Gets distracted with discord chatting.

Anyway, actual reading thread time.

[Sleep]

fair enuf



syn has the most objectively villagery posts ITG

sleep is gira for those who don't know. hi gira



jan/suibian i have nothing against, but feel like all the posts they have made so far any decent wolf could make in their sleep in a game this slow. Tho I have a feeling jan will prob end up being my top vilager by the end of the day but who knows

what are you seeing with syn that i'm not

tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town

[EnderWiggin]

Rask is probably town btw. Not just a tone read.

I didn't say this before now because I liked people voting/talking about em and wanted to see if that gathered any further info, but I had the read from... page 2 probably.

[Suibian]

The person who didn't recognise a pasta for what it was and/or didn't look at the player list
The person who reacted poorly under pressure
The person who made one naked vote and no other posts

These people could be wolves, but this is all very obvious stuff other players are going to scumread you for, and both Jan and Syn are making much more out of it than is warranted for what is probably going to turn out NAI flubbing.

Oh I thought you were referring to them as misyeet bait in general, as in it's par for the course for them, and I was wondering why you had expectations that they should know that. Well Syn would make sense, but it looks like it's Jan's first game here, so you putting that expectation there felt odd. But you were just referencing low-hanging fruit in terms of their posting, so that makes a bit more sense.

I've also pushed on Monty and you didn't include that in the reasoning why you scum read me, so I didn't know if you were including Monty in your misyeet bait list.

[Suibian]

i'm loving it, already plotting how to troll you by openwolfing in your face again

cries in shouting to the rooftops that you're scum while getting told by the rest of town that I don't know what I'm talking about.

GOOD TIMES

[Jan]

what are you seeing with syn that i'm not

tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town

Mashes are just there to phone it in while you chat with friends.
I think my last normal game was the thing earlier this year and Wiggles Breaking Bad anon game the year before.

(But if you ppl want to play some blood on the Clocktower I am always down to clown).


Anyway I am not certain how I would play this game as wolf. My play normally is dictated a lot more by my mood but I tend to get exhausted in mashes as a wolf.

[Jan]

cries in shouting to the rooftops that you're scum while getting told by the rest of town that I don't know what I'm talking about.

GOOD TIMES

the important lesson is that you need to learn to sound more competent, right?

[EnderWiggin]

What happened on MU?

Anyway, either this was copypasta or Rask is partners with Cuth.

Vote: Rask

This vote is still the worst. Justifications and also completely weirdly at odds with the tone of it. Even acknowledges it might be a copypasta.

I think I'll ignore if Monty was in the game or not because I can't be bothered to go remember which game it was to check. And also I forget things all the time so I can't *really* fault Monty if he just plain forgot that post.

You wouldn't say that of everyone voting?

This reaction to being called out about his post tho feels kinda off. Like a "Why single out meee!" kind of statement.

Why did you find that illogical enough to attract your attention relative to other votes?

These are his only posts in thread so far, he cares more about how his vote is perceived than adding to any other content.

The next post is a meme response to my meme response which was... funny enough I guess but not the point.

And then again:

Would you say you give up as scum D1?



No, I was making generic analysis and forgot that Cuth was a setup reviewer.



I like holstering ousts, or whatever. It puts a pep in my step.

Monty's actual game talk has been (into page 3 already) only about his vote.

I just saw Cuth's name a lot in signups, then again in Rask's copypasta. Your process is sound, but's not that complicated after all. Call it a variant of inattentional blindness. Ender thought I was in some MU game, too.



I'm asking an innocent question.

And again. I'm actually curious when he makes his first read/talk/whatever that isn't about the vote.

Then finally on page 6 he comments about posts other than the vote. (Which is already over half the day done.)

A lot of it is vague statements with a statement he has no "strong reads" and a pockety statement about "mindmelding scarily with a catch" with Taffy. (Notably the wolfreads didn't contain Rask. He makes no statement about this.)

No, I was able to townlock him ride or die midgame our last play together, though it didn't save us in the end. So it would be embarrassing to MR him.

I'll note that if I remember right I also townread Monty early on that game.

Not a strong argument but a dissimilarity to here.

And that's about all of Monty's posts.

Like idk about you but I'm not feeling like Monty cares about solving this game aside from making sure his vote doesn't look bad. He hasn't even tried to push on Rask. He's made more comments about how Rask reads his vote than that.

[Sleep]

wisdom's posts on pg 4/5 do nothing for me

[Sleep]

(But if you ppl want to play some blood on the Clocktower I am always down to clown).

i would rather die

[EnderWiggin]

Good luck getting as much effort about any of my other reads this phase.

My other sort of scumread rn is Jan.

Mostly cause (and this is going to sound self-centred I know), the following post:

Either rvs on a friend or piling on as an excuse. Time will tell. But it looks telling.

It feels like the lame-duck style I see often used to shade people without directly attacking them.

I also don't know Jan that well so this is a wild hipshot of a read but I feel good about it.

[EnderWiggin]

Oh I just got reminded by seeing Sleep's posts that their main entry felt like obligation to do more work than they needed to. Which takes 3rd place on my scumread list.

It's a good list I swear.

[Visor]

wisdom's posts on pg 4/5 do nothing for me

[Visor]

Good luck getting as much effort about any of my other reads this phase.

My other sort of scumread rn is Jan.

Mostly cause (and this is going to sound self-centred I know), the following post:


It feels like the lame-duck style I see often used to shade people without directly attacking them.

I also don't know Jan that well so this is a wild hipshot of a read but I feel good about it.

weirdly enough i also did not like that post but msotly because it felt like just putting words out to comment on something - almost forced

[EnderWiggin]

Sui gets a townread for their bubbly approach to making reads. (This is not a pocket I swear.)

I promise to review this read on...

*Checks smudged writing on hand.*

Day 3, because their style of play also strikes me as one I'll probably townread.