Cereal killer mafia

[ladd]

having jan as villa is gonna be a bit meta heavy but i'll try to explain best i can without using meta too much:

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Rasko jumping into the fray and basically leaving rvs 1 seconds in should read good but ..

I have trouble agreeing with several takes tbh.


Let's start with this one. Wisdom doesn't really strike me as a player who will start the game as a wolf basically asking for heat.
Which is what the initial post does.

Maybe I am missing some inside joke between the two, but Rasko has not really joked and instead played an early aggression game.


Second take is this:

In reference to this:


And I am scratching my head because Montys post in both worlds is not serious.
Copy/pasta is shitposting and partners with cuth is shitposting because cuth is not in the game.

If this was a toan read or something like that I could accept it, but that reason makes so little sense to me.

i think everyone who had this thought on rask's inital posting is a villager tbh nd i think this is a villagery observation from jan

I find myself agreeing with all of ladds words while not feeling like he added a lot new to the game. (basically only the el barto meta)

Makes me think I am good at ww or being pocketed.
Fine with either tbh.

Or we just both suck.

this lines up with how jan would treat me as a villager. It would have been easy to just throw a villa read on me for th epocket but there is that hint of paranoia that a villager has

don't bother. I have accepted my fate as n1 sacrifice.

this is 100% meta read but I just bought his answer and self confidence to me even throwing his name around as possible wolf

Still alive?

Odd kill.

I am not really happy about that flip tbh.

~no wolf says this about a wolf flip imo lol

(and again lines up with how jan feels baout this type of stuff)

I had one vote all day and that was barto based on his first and only post.
Everybody that has any idea how to read me had me as villager.

The main reason for me not to die is because some people don't know me.

again, villagery self-confidence and I buy he thinks this

Kind of why ladd and you are not in my actual villa circle and have your own separate slots.

I can easily see wolf!ladd putting down this vote expecting it to be offwagon.

Again not where I want to look right now.
His vote still killed a wolf in the end.

and here he could have easily just be going for the pocket on me/cisor but again he keeps us at arms lenght with that villagery paranoia


will stop quoting but then he has:

- the questioning of syn claim which is >rand v cause wolves would know it's real and i dont really see them questioning it that much, especially since jan even tried to link syn to me

- the reaction to finding out visor was the nk was funny but also genuinely villagery

[Raskolnikov]

ofc theres a chance

but heres the thing

if rasko aint a wolf, who is?

we look at sleep next and sure that looks reasonable but sleep/cape don't exactly feel aligned (unless they just decided to yolo bus to get one deep)

You just nailed why I am so desesperated about this game. The consensus POE is so narrowed at this point in the game and gotta say it, wrong if it's not exactly sleep/Cape. And I am kindof writing it off because of OGI reasons (three no-shows as wolves? come on). Like this thread feels litterally wolf-driven to me since SOD2.

Of course you all need my flip to realise it.

I hope it will help you.

[Visor]

You just nailed why I am so desesperated about this game. The consensus POE is so narrowed at this point in the game and gotta say it, wrong if it's not exactly sleep/Cape. And I am kindof writing it off because of OGI reasons (three no-shows as wolves? come on). Like this thread feels litterally wolf-driven to me since SOD2.

Of course you all need my flip to realise it.

I hope it will help you.

who do you think are the wolves then, ladd/jan?

[Raskolnikov]

~no wolf says this about a wolf flip imo lol

a wolf would say this reading Monty's flip and not Visor's

(ngl I was amused by this post from Jan, because it's certainly, how to say it, odd. I don't think there are a lot of villagers who write things down like this either)

[ladd]

we look at sleep next and sure that looks reasonable but sleep/cape don't exactly feel aligned (unless they just decided to yolo bus to get one deep)

i mean - what else are they gonna do if thats the team?


i think cape/rask are much more not w/w than sleep/cape tbh

cape actually had a vote that risked killing rask in a spot where it would have been v tough to win being down 2 wolves and with so many clears



the question of the game is p much just : is el barto wagon pure?


even without taking into account the votes per se, i have an hard time seeing you/jan/suibian as wolves rn (ironically without the bpv stuff i think i'd def be at least considering you)

if someone thinks otherwise plz show me the way

[Raskolnikov]

who do you think are the wolves then, ladd/jan?

yeah or one of them + Cape. Like I don't really feel sleep as wolf. Or he gave up with El Barto flip. That's still possible

[Raskolnikov]

Tx Ladd for the post about Jan

[Jan]

I love that ladds villa read on me is about my paranoia on him and my villa read on him is because he isn't paranoid about me.

Precious.

[Visor]

yeah or one of them + Cape. Like I don't really feel sleep as wolf. Or he gave up with El Barto flip. That's still possible

walk me through it

why cant it be me

why cant it be tammy

[ladd]

I love that ladds villa read on me is about my paranoia on him and my villa read on him is because he isn't paranoid about me.

Precious.

eheh

its honestly also a lot about toan/how i expect you to think (example: wrt the wolves being the people not showing up) but i find that part harder to put into words so i kinda skipped over it



hope i am not wrong or it'd be embarassing

[ladd]

i'll say that everytime rask posts i doubt they are a wolf tbh


maybe i am a sucker tho

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[Jan]

eheh

its honestly also a lot about toan/how i expect you to think (example: wrt the wolves being the people not showing up) but i find that part harder to put into words so i kinda skipped over it



hope i am not wrong or it'd be embarassing

My favorite old-school read on me is that I am funny as a villager and more forced as a wolf.
I have fooled that one before but I am always amused by it.

[ladd]

Like this thread feels litterally wolf-driven to me since SOD2.

by who? me and jan?

cause d2 jan didnt do much at all and i was pushing an agenda that lined up with yours IYAM

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[ladd]

I think Rask is still wolfy

Felt like Sleep was a better pressure vote just because paranoia on the slot

What does this mean?

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[Gemma]

Votal 3.3 (again but with a timer)

Sleep (3) - Cape (#736), Ender (#777), Jan (#796)
Rask (2) - Syn (#721), Visor (#758)
Cape (1) - Sleep (#811)

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[Raskolnikov]

walk me through it

why cant it be me

why cant it be tammy

Tammy I addressed it yesterday irl. Like if Tammy is scum, el barto never flips D1.
You I have also talked about. The only way you are scum is with Syn and this game is bastard (scum vig allowed to shoot wolves or no kills allowed) so I just dont want to consider it smh.

[Raskolnikov]

by who? me and jan?

cause d2 jan didnt do much at all and i was pushing an agenda that lined up with yours IYAM

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I have to go for several hours but i am planning to reread D2 like 6/7 hours before EOD, will try to articulate this then

[Visor]

vote: sleep

[Visor]

am i a moron if when rereading d1

it makes me want to kill ender

LOL

[Visor]

Vote: siubian

yeehaw

i'm changing tactics

[Visor]

just realised that they never mentioned barto once d1 lol

just voted there with no words - weird that if you are going to be that stingy with the vote that when you make it (and presumably make it count) that you say nothing at the time

the game feels like it is in a weird state at the moment where i feel like we are misreading villagers for the right reasons

and that is probably just because el busso

plus the everyone is so town attitude where the rest of us slam our face into bricks trying to make something out of nothing and we go aroudn in circiles

idk, just feel like this is something to explore, and i like suibian + sleep as a team more than raskol + sleep if only because making that vote like that gives you late game cred if you know you have to solo the game

[Visor]

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

vote barto

I expected there to be more posts to get rid of the tie. Do you guys really want to keep the tie?

just... idk if i buy this progression as a villager

makes the vote with 11 minutes to go, no fanfare, no getting people on the wagon, no convincing anyone else you are right, just place the vote and... watch.

i get the feeling this was calculated - make a vote that you can point to later, don't bring attention to it so theres a chance it doesn't go over (especially with a big tie and nobody at eod talking abotu barto)

like yes, can just be a villager making a correct vote, but i feel like there is something to explore here with the actions

its the kind of play i would make with two inactive partners because i know i have to play deep

[Suibian]

lol

[Suibian]

Is that you agreeing your hard to read?

What is your read on him so far this game?

~~~

Considering sheeping Jan.

Not sure what else you want me to say about a no poster, but I’d already stated I was thinking about voting him and Jan responded. I’m not sure what kind of fanfare I’m supposed to have on a no poster I didn’t have a read on but sure that’s an argument I guess

I don’t know all of this feels like I struck a nerve, and your response is to fling shit to see if it sticks.

~~~

If you guys don’t allow no kills here then my concern might be wrong outside of exactly a visor/syn pairing where they got the no vest, shot Monty for the night kill to use as a big shot when it came time to claim but that feels too tricky. I’ve never seen a no kill disallowed though.

[Suibian]

I’m sorry it just registered that you posited I’d make that vote in a sleep me pairing because I’d get late game cred if I knew I had to solo the game and I’m

You’ve gravely insulted sleep and I think you should apologize.

I probably shouldn’t find this as funny as I do, and maybe it’s the lack of sleep (not player) but I can’t stop giggling over imagining this. Outside of being in a hydra with someone competent, even at my most confident as scum, which was never great, I never day one thought I would go deep. So imagining me thinking this in a team with sleep of all people, yeah I’m just gonna carry this with me throughout the day. Poor deadbeat scum player sleep carried by super scary Tammy RAWR. lol thank you.

[EnderWiggin]

I've seen No Kills allowed but tbh would be surprised to see anyone do that N1.

I'd consider it more likely that Syn fake-claimed the shot.

[EnderWiggin]

I have had a day.

[EnderWiggin]

I do find it funny that when I read up and start to doubt my solve because Sui posts a wallpost that I kinda liked the content of Visor is now agreeing with it.

[EnderWiggin]

I think Rask exists in that weird space where he's very sus and continues to be sus but I think is probably town.

Yes this is a dumb read but I'm sticking to it. The back and forth EOD yesterday just felt town.

[Suibian]

I've seen No Kills allowed but tbh would be surprised to see anyone do that N1.

I'd consider it more likely that Syn fake-claimed the shot.

Have you seen anything concerning from syn? Is the way they’ve gone after Rask normal for them?