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[Cape90]

Just to throw some things at the wall

benneh and dyachei both did opposite things from each other in their reads on me in relation to them both knowing they are bad at reading me.

Looked at some turbos out of curiousity when it came to benneh and his treatment of me, specifically when I am explicitly town and he is too, it usually always goes from him saying in every single game that I am in his POE to one of, him just shrugging it off when i die and flip town, or him frustratedly shouting at the wind about how I am so unreadable even though he very explicity tries every time, which I at least appreciate.

You know, that lines up with benneh's play so far... i guess?

Then I looked at dyachei, specifically when I was wolf in anni 2023 (dya was town here). By day 2, they were talking about how I was one of their top wolf reads and they were really concerned about me and they wanted to push me. They were softballing it, yeah, but like, they were making a read and not just going like "eh cape is really just hard to read" like they are doing here right now.

Same exact thing happened with dyachei in Pokemon Generation 2 mash where we were both town. (There was like... a sort of turn around, but I am not super convinced dya believed it too much but that's arbitrary).
Oh but if you wanna talk about Warhammer mash, v dya was townreading v me day 1, pretty early, with only like 90 posts.
Dunno if I should be concerned about dyachei having 0 comment on benneh's #26

Been unsuccessful with trying to find turbos we shared though, which would maybe be more of an apt comparison just because of how early it is into this game.

Okay whatever, so they found me scummy in a completely different game state when it was literally day 2 at that point and a lot more has come out. But this hedginess doesn't resonate with what I have seen from them, and I am curious about benneh's take on that since both of them have hydra'd multiple times together.

as far as opener's go cape's is not good cause it feels like RVS but also feels a little serious like he wants to show off how he's already wolf hunting even though that post from baud is always nai

everyone else seems to be groovin so cool game

I called this wolfy just because I don't see what is exactly scummy about just throwing that, admittedly pretty unserious vote at the wall to actually do something in a game where nothing has yet happened. It is a way I am used to try to get the ball rolling.

In terms of me "pushing" baud for...

Wow where to begin

1. Usually when, (I will use a similar phrase here), the saying "where do i begin" is said, it both precedes a rambling about whatever, or just said with exasperation as the tone. This is my nerd emoji English grammar brain going off i guess :p.
2. It was a place to "begin" as a sort of tongue-in-cheek type of thing.

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Everything that I have done is pretty NAI for me (i think, i have no self awareness) (until this post uwu).

I think Taffy's opener is rand>v

I have decided that this is a turbo AMA

Cuth is villagery for this post

yes i like to think i have professional experience in the sup business tbh

do you have any thoughts on cape's initial posts or people's thoughts on cape's initial posts?

I think Jan has been kinda towny in general

To exaggerate my reads

Cuth
Taffy
Jan

nebjiamn

baudib1
Gemma

dyachei

[nebjiamn]

i don't think turbo meta is going to be very applicable here friendo but cheerio for looking i suppose (i am not convinced you actually did but c'est la vie).

i am not really sure how me calling your first post wolfy tracks with what you've correlated as our t/t meta in turbos anyway

(also i am not frustrated at how hard you are to read i am more upset with how you derp and post way behind when everyone is real timing)

why is your post so much about old games that likely aren't relevant here bleh

i don't have an opinion on dya not having an opinion on you yet. i'm not sure why they should other than you mentioning them not responding to #26 but i don't really know if they would anyway. we are good friends but not attached at the hip--they don't highly investigate everythhing i do, nor I them, and especially not in the first couple dozen posts of the game

having said that im fine letting you cook for now and seeing where this all goes

[Gemma]

damn son lmao

[Gemma]

benneh why are you so sus of cape

[nebjiamn]

benneh why are you so sus of cape

interesting post tbh

[Gemma]

interesting post tbh

no u

[Gemma]

cape your impatience is endearing and i'm here for it

[Cape90]

benneh why are you so sus of cape

Yeah I agree with benneh, this feels like an exaggeration

[nebjiamn]

here's my issue with gemma

she's not done anythihng at all, which is OK in a vacuum, not many of us have, but she's been around and participating but it feels like all of her posts are being handled with kid gloves

i think you're great cape

a pretty benign post overall but looking back it feels a little pockety

y'all are going in circles here

this one just really doesn't feel helpful at all and the main reason i voted last night. although it was light. but she doesn't really seem interested in the conversation or helping resolve it. its a weird pokey post

damn son lmao

idk just feels out of place in response to my post. at this point theres meat and bones for gemma to pick at and respond to but she continues with periphery overtures and what feels like blowing my post way out of proportion (also applies if this was actually @ cape's post)

benneh why are you so sus of cape

this post was what really sold me last night from just an initial wolfy lean to pretty solidly wolfy because its both such an exagerration of what i've express int he thread, it indicates she's not really reading my posts to cape because all i ever did was call his opener wolfy and then had a 2-post back and forth with him

it also feels very "stoke the fire-y" because of that

[Cape90]

here's my issue with gemma

she's not done anythihng at all, which is OK in a vacuum, not many of us have, but she's been around and participating but it feels like all of her posts are being handled with kid gloves



a pretty benign post overall but looking back it feels a little pockety



this one just really doesn't feel helpful at all and the main reason i voted last night. although it was light. but she doesn't really seem interested in the conversation or helping resolve it. its a weird pokey post



idk just feels out of place in response to my post. at this point theres meat and bones for gemma to pick at and respond to but she continues with periphery overtures and what feels like blowing my post way out of proportion (also applies if this was actually @ cape's post)


this post was what really sold me last night from just an initial wolfy lean to pretty solidly wolfy because its both such an exagerration of what i've express int he thread, it indicates she's not really reading my posts to cape because all i ever did was call his opener wolfy and then had a 2-post back and forth with him

it also feels very "stoke the fire-y" because of that

1. It's whatever, backs up Gemma's TR on me

2. I don't really get this point against Gemma, though it's not a particularly towny post either. I am confused with though like, what would be "helping" in that situation with Gemma's post, like if you were in Gemma's shoes, what would you say?

3. Eh, yeah it's tonally odd, reminds me of the thing i pinged baud about at the start of the game, which also means "meh"

4. Already talked about this pinging me for basically the same reason.

Now if we are looking at there being only 2 mafia this game, I think things will be interesting if I become a main push because I feel like both the mafia people should be on the same page regarding their EOD pushes to maximize their chance of winning, and Gemma/dyachei are on opposite sides when it comes to me. If both are w/w the chances of me dying to a wagon right now are lessened because of this.
That is to say in that particular scenario Demma/dya are less likely w/w. I could be overthinking this again :p, also it's mostly a kinda pointless tinfoil rn... probably, like would put more stock here if it was like day 3/4 or whatever

[Cape90]

Now I do think both are wolfy right now, so not a bad push

[baudib1]

Cape wok you say I am good or bad at reading you at this point. I actually don’t know.

[Cape90]

Cape wok you say I am good or bad at reading you at this point. I actually don’t know.

You are really just null to me, I thought that was obvious by the time I made my large post at the very least. Like it was really to do something in a thread that nothing was getting done with.

[baudib1]

You are really just null to me, I thought that was obvious by the time I made my large post at the very least. Like it was really to do something in a thread that nothing was getting done with.

That’s not what I asked though. I don’t expect anyone to have a read on me at this point.

[Cape90]

That’s not what I asked though. I don’t expect anyone to have a read on me at this point.

Yeah I very much misread the question because i am tired, sorry about that LOL

I think you are a decent reader of me, like above average

[dyachei]

several things

cape is assuming I'm going to push him on not being good at reading him and his case is based on this but I haven't done that. I've literally just said it's hard for me to read him.

Which leads to the next thing, where he's leaving out all the village games where I've said the same thing and just cherry picked the wolf games to prove his point.

All in all I didnt have a read on him until his bad case and push and now I think he's ACTIVELY being wolfy.

Also like...I came here to have a chill time and my entrance was met with like 2-3 people on my case immediately. Not really the vibe I was looking for guys

[Gemma]

several things

cape is assuming I'm going to push him on not being good at reading him and his case is based on this but I haven't done that. I've literally just said it's hard for me to read him.

Which leads to the next thing, where he's leaving out all the village games where I've said the same thing and just cherry picked the wolf games to prove his point.

All in all I didnt have a read on him until his bad case and push and now I think he's ACTIVELY being wolfy.

Also like...I came here to have a chill time and my entrance was met with like 2-3 people on my case immediately. Not really the vibe I was looking for guys

[baudib1]

PZelda’s opener was pretty cringe but maybe not in a wolfy wsy. We can wait for him to do the coffee tell.

Dya’s response in #86 is probably > rand V for them.

This game doesn’t really start until Visor gets here imo.

[Cape90]

several things

cape is assuming I'm going to push him on not being good at reading him and his case is based on this but I haven't done that. I've literally just said it's hard for me to read him.

Which leads to the next thing, where he's leaving out all the village games where I've said the same thing and just cherry picked the wolf games to prove his point.

All in all I didnt have a read on him until his bad case and push and now I think he's ACTIVELY being wolfy.

Also like...I came here to have a chill time and my entrance was met with like 2-3 people on my case immediately. Not really the vibe I was looking for guys

3 of the most recent games you and i have played together is very obviously cherry picking, right right. I also didn't bring up a wolf game from you where you ignored me all together. I didn't bring up any of your wolf games, you have shown you haven't actually read into my post though so thanks for digging that pit for yourself

I am not expecting you to push me, I was making the point of

1. You can read me, you have been inconsistent at it, but as town you clearly have your gears turning with me.
2. I think dismissing the read on me as like "oh cape isn't an easy read for me" is sketch and I have seen mafia do similar because "cape is so polarized and i cant possibly read him". But as I said, that's assuming you would do what wolves do and not try to read me in good faith, which you already honestly have a leg up in right now and it's worrying me.

[Gemma]

3 of the most recent games you and i have played together is very obviously cherry picking, right right. I also didn't bring up a wolf game from you where you ignored me all together. I didn't bring up any of your wolf games, you have shown you haven't actually read into my post though so thanks for digging that pit for yourself

I am not expecting you to push me, I was making the point of

1. You can read me, you have been inconsistent at it, but as town you clearly have your gears turning with me.
2. I think dismissing the read on me as like "oh cape isn't an easy read for me" is sketch and I have seen mafia do similar because "cape is so polarized and i cant possibly read him". But as I said, that's assuming you would do what wolves do and not try to read me in good faith, which you already honestly have a leg up in right now and it's worrying me.

oh no

[Cape90]

i don't think turbo meta is going to be very applicable here friendo but cheerio for looking i suppose (i am not convinced you actually did but c'est la vie).

i am not really sure how me calling your first post wolfy tracks with what you've correlated as our t/t meta in turbos anyway

(also i am not frustrated at how hard you are to read i am more upset with how you derp and post way behind when everyone is real timing)

why is your post so much about old games that likely aren't relevant here bleh

i don't have an opinion on dya not having an opinion on you yet. i'm not sure why they should other than you mentioning them not responding to #26 but i don't really know if they would anyway. we are good friends but not attached at the hip--they don't highly investigate everythhing i do, nor I them, and especially not in the first couple dozen posts of the game

having said that im fine letting you cook for now and seeing where this all goes

All that just to basically say I kinda made a huge, probably mostly pointless post, and yeah I agree, was just bored and kinda just wanted to look because I literally shaded both you and dya for yalls treatment of my slot so far into the game, which is relevant to previous games, and I wanted to just look into that. Also previous games on here are kinda hard to read through where we have played in a regular game together, esp since the whole replies thing only will show your latest 100 posts in a given thread on here.

That is to say, I didn't gather too much of a take away in general unless I was 100% going to assume dya is just going to nullbin me all game, which would be scummy btw, but because I said this, I have forced dya (if wolf) to make a read on me when they can obviously. :p

[Visor]

i don't think turbo meta is going to be very applicable here friendo but cheerio for looking i suppose (i am not convinced you actually did but c'est la vie).

i am not really sure how me calling your first post wolfy tracks with what you've correlated as our t/t meta in turbos anyway

(also i am not frustrated at how hard you are to read i am more upset with how you derp and post way behind when everyone is real timing)

why is your post so much about old games that likely aren't relevant here bleh

i don't have an opinion on dya not having an opinion on you yet. i'm not sure why they should other than you mentioning them not responding to #26 but i don't really know if they would anyway. we are good friends but not attached at the hip--they don't highly investigate everythhing i do, nor I them, and especially not in the first couple dozen posts of the game

having said that im fine letting you cook for now and seeing where this all goes

weirdly written post friend

[Visor]

capes post is a weird angle to take as a wolf, just kinad weird to read turbo games and come in post 1 not even checking out the vibe just going, here is my text wall of almost zero relevance, look upon my work and despair

benneh/taffy w/w book it

baudib v

dya mild v

cuth mild sk

[baudib1]

“Look upon my work and despair” made me laugh but that’s kind of an accurate description of how Cape plays (non-derogatory).

[Visor]

well i was wrong cause apparently cape posted before that post

but i refuse to adjust my opinion, cape v

[Cape90]

“Look upon my work and despair” made me laugh but that’s kind of an accurate description of how Cape plays (non-derogatory).

Yeah this is accurate

there is a difference between when I busy work as mafia and when I busy work as town

I just did that entire write up FOR MYSELF. As wolf, I do busy work to get townreads or to throw a suspicion, or you know, something boring and typical like that, not something that's pretty pointless to everyone but myself, like I was practically talking to myself there.

That's my defense for those suspecting that

[Jan]

capes post is a weird angle to take as a wolf, just kinad weird to read turbo games and come in post 1 not even checking out the vibe just going, here is my text wall of almost zero relevance, look upon my work and despair

benneh/taffy w/w book it

baudib v

dya mild v

cuth mild sk

Cape90
baudib1

dyachei

Totally not Taffy
nebjiamn

Gemma

Cuthillius

Just putting this down for postgame.

Comes in late. Copies homework.
I name you the unruly teenager of the game.

Please wear this badge with pride.

[dyachei]

i think gemma looks worse than cape. I dont like what cape's doing and I do think he's cherry picking but I think gemma making excuses for it is worse

[Cuthillius]

i think gemma looks worse than cape. I dont like what cape's doing and I do think he's cherry picking but I think gemma making excuses for it is worse

idk I'm with gemma here

seems like a weird way to open the game for w!cape

which i guess by extension makes me agree with your first sentence but

[Cape90]

i think gemma looks worse than cape. I dont like what cape's doing and I do think he's cherry picking but I think gemma making excuses for it is worse

Everything you say looks agenda'd to me right now

Vote: dyachei

Or more like 2 things, but 2 things is good enough to me