This is Football! (Closed 10er)

[Cuthillius]

i shouldn't have used the word pairing

a lot is revolving around those two but one of those two but like resolving between the two maybe or just idk

[Cuthillius]

i disagree

though i cant speak for benneh

i expected you to push me more or at least poke me more

[Cuthillius]

perhaps to prod

[Gemma]

i expected you to push me more or at least poke me more

it might still happen!

[Cuthillius]

it might still happen!

my tissues are ready

[Gemma]

perhaps to prod

perchance to dream?

[Gemma]

@Totally not Taffy

are you frozen

[Gemma]

wait, that's not rude is it?

i can never tell with these things

[nebjiamn]

another thing about both gemma and benneh is that both of you have been treating me weird this game

not in a bad way just a weird way

I’m sorry you feel that way

im just a little villager out here trying to find wolves

[Cuthillius]

you're fine don't even worry about it it's like disconcerting slash not what i expect weird not i feel bad weird

[Cuthillius]

unless you're a wolf

in which case maybe worry about it a little

[nebjiamn]

I skipped over your last post cause it’s not relevant at all (this is a hard claim of villager and NOT wolf?)

[nebjiamn]

The mobile formatting adding a question mark to that is super funny

[Gemma]

2. Jan: his readslist has Baudib as top town when Baudib had made a handful of NAI posts - lean w

3. Baudib: I've agreed with everything Baudib has said so far - lean v

?????? yo tell me someone can think someone is lean v and also just made nai posts at the same time like this

it's like they're trying to suggest jan has tmi but skipping all the steps needed to actually get to a real read of someone having tmi, like that person providing over the top reasoning... not like that person v reading someone you also v read on page 0

"this person wolfy because they have similar read to me" with no further elaboration is just wild

you might as well wolfread yourself while you're at it

4. Gemma: I'm not voting Gemma D1 in her first game here, if she's a wolf she'll still be a wolf tomorrow and we might get spew - null

5. Dyachei: refusing to read Cape so early was fine, the reason meh, p#86 was overly defensive what with calling Cape's post "a case" and "a push" when he wasn't voting them yet, and their only other read is also Cape-related which shows a very narrow focus - lean w

6. Benneh: I didn't like the way he defended Dyachei, "we aren't linked at the hip etc" was levels of irrelevant to this game. I've liked everything else he has done though - null

7. Cape: this is familiar!Cape, and not having been snowed yet I want to trust that wolf!Cape will feel different - lean v

8. Cuthillius: leaning v bc of how he interacted with my first post and then lost interest, wolves tend to love making chitchat with me SoD to show how comfortable they are in the thread - lean v

9. Pzelda: opening that says he doesn't want to read but then immediately gets down to business, which I find inherently contradictory - lean w

the rest of these are nonreads imo like they don't feel like natural thoughts its tonally wolfy also this is what actually wolfy going through the motions or whatever it was you said cape was early day 1 looks like imo

also the pzelda read is something

Because wolves sometimes pretend to have one attitude that they think is towny while their actions betray a different one. Here hypothetically it would have been "I don't want to read = look at me not being very invested in this game" in opposition with "making game-related posts instead of rvs shitposting = actually I do care about what's happening". Ofc him not being here supports the former and means the following posts were just "trying to get into the game and failing".

this was pzelda's post:

Hello,
Not in mood for reading.

pzelda wolfy because they said they're not in the mood for reading but played the game anyway is the most ungenerous take i think you could possibly make from that


taffys been v reading baudib all game

During my first catchup I noticed Baudib voicing comments a few times that I also had, which might mean they were level 1 thoughts and easy to fake for a wolf but then again nobody else seemed to be making them. If you want I can search for them by tomorrow.

I don't find him as passive if I'm honest (or at least not moreso than the other players) and I also don't necessarily see how his reads are all rational, for example the "Visor outed wolf" bit that seemingly came out of nowhere (assuming he was serious about that bc I honestly didn't take it as such when I first read it). His thoughts also feel like they're meandering which I find towny if not unfakeable. See for example him first saying he won't townread me and then doing so anyway later.

Also I disagree with you that Baudib and Visor don't have partner equity, I could see Baudib fishing about people's positions towards his partner earlier and Visor now pushing him for future cred at a time when Baudib has almost zero chance of going over iyam. Which is not the same as me now having scumreads on either of them.

I can't find the quotes anymore but I also wanted to tell you and Benneh that the idea of Cape (or any wolf in a 10-player game with presumably only one partner) coming in thinking "let's piss off Dyachei on p1 that's a great tactic that surely won't blow up in my face" is inconceivable to me. Even if he's a wolf I won't believe pushing you was premeditated.
@dyachei

her baudib read is levels of wonky to me

its out of proportion to what baudib has actually done in a way that i think feels forced

for the amount of effort she's put into her baudib v read (not just in this post) it's wishy washy slash noncommittal, and immediately after trying to convince herself/others baudib is town she moves to considering baudib partners namely visor (also despite not w reading visor) - and shortly afterwards asks visor to sell her on w!baudib. separately these are things that are whatever but together with each other they feel incoherent and dissonant imo

i don't think it fits the bill of a villager with a real read that they're torn about

it looks even worse if baudib flips w (and i currently think he will)

the rest of her posts would just be quoting them saying wolfy tone

/39

[Totally not Taffy]

Not fully caught up just glanced at things while scrolling. I think it's Gemma/Jan atm.

Gemma bc I found Dyachei's comment about her being just a wolf more convincing than their arguments against Baudib, so if we're sheeping their corpse today that's where I'd want to go.

Jan bc I found his treatment of Visor D1 scummy (case to come) and that would also explain Gemma's pushing me today when I was pretty much the only one who defended her yesterday, as well as him not voting EoD while she was a wagon.

[Totally not Taffy]

Also I had questions for ppl yesterday and the only one who answered iirc was Dyachei so if you could please check your pings.

Except Benneh I forgot to add a ping to his.

Also @nebjiamn why did you not vote Gemma EoD after casing her during the day?

[nebjiamn]

bcsuse Gemma got villagery and paella had 4 posts

eeird question when you agreed with my logic on voting Zelda out yesterday

[nebjiamn]

As for why paella and visor felt kinda paired, idk, was just agamestate read at the time and it felt v possivle

[baudib1]

we were too locked in step last time we randed wolf together it's good to switch things up

Benneh/Cuth
Can you talk about your wolf game together? This is a fun post.

[baudib1]

Taffy:
Gemma seems unpartnered for a multitude of reasons. I suppose that’s not a strong statement in a 2-wolf game where maybe the other wolf is AFKish but not sure who that would be.

[baudib1]

baudib gonna be excited to hear this

Wow!

[baudib1]

I don’t get why there’s a Benneh/Gemma dichotomy at all, I don’t see any dynamic tying them together.

[Totally not Taffy]

Jan on Visor D1

Jan's initial micro/bullshit readslist does not have Visor, which is normal since he hadn't posted yet at the time. I'm quoting it here bc he refers to it later.

Cape90
baudib1

dyachei

Totally not Taffy
nebjiamn

Gemma

Cuthillius

Just putting this down for postgame.

capes post is a weird angle to take as a wolf, just kinad weird to read turbo games and come in post 1 not even checking out the vibe just going, here is my text wall of almost zero relevance, look upon my work and despair

benneh/taffy w/w book it

baudib v

dya mild v

cuth mild sk

Comes in late. Copies homework.
I name you the unruly teenager of the game.

Please wear this badge with pride.

He comments here on how similar their initial readslists are. It is shade disguised as a joke. Does not mention the absence of Gemma in Visor's reads (post 96), even though Gemma has posted sufficiently at this time for Benneh's case to come right after (post 110, with no posts by Gemma inbetween).

Since nobody ever bothered to ask a single question about my very early readslist I will tell you because your conclusion is just weirdly lazy.

I thought nobody had done anything of actual value at the time of the list and sorted by small stuff to see a. how bad it is postgame and b create content.

the small stuff for cape and baudib was that both of them really did their own thing and did not care about anything else happening early.
No attempt to look good was made. You could argue both of them purposefully attempted to look bad.


And cuths question to dya just felt like somebody trying to look good by asking a question that looks useful but really is nothing.

Dya on the other hand got some points for basically not caring about cuths questions.

Mikroreads basically and nothing of importance.

The other 3 were firmly null. I just put a space between gemma and ben/you to be a nuisance.


I was very amused that my microreads/bullshit lists from early on was then more or less the same list that visor gave 12 hours later.

Anyways. This is content you could have interacted with on your own but decided to ignore.

More subtle shading of Visor's readslist: "You had 12 hours (and a lot of posts) more and yet your readslist is superficial bullshit". "Amusing" is just another "wofly weird". A town would just say this and attach a scumread, or not say it until they had an actual read. This here is an attempt to get others to sus Visor.

I don't really know right now.

One kill is boring
One kill I feel comes out of nowhere and is spearheaded by visor of all people.
And it is not even a cool cdf.

Visor pushing Baudib is a reason not to vote Baudib. It could be a very clunky defense of partner Baudib. My guess is that it's setting up to push Visor after Baudib flips town. If you really think Visor is that scummy, why not vote a counterwagon? Why not vote Visor? Baudib would have voted Visor, and I made a point of saying I'd considered it too. But no, Jan keeps his hands clean.

Feedback welcome, especially if you still think Visor is scum @baudib1.

[Totally not Taffy]

Taffy:
Gemma seems unpartnered for a multitude of reasons. I suppose that’s not a strong statement in a 2-wolf game where maybe the other wolf is AFKish but not sure who that would be.

Do you mean unpartnered with anybody or unpartnered with Jan in particular? Assuming the first but not sure what you're replying to.

[Gemma]

ayo we got a game on our hands

huzzah

[Visor]

Jan always insults me in games lol

(Friendly insults lol (or at least I hope))
He's not really shading me

[baudib1]

Do you mean unpartnered with anybody or unpartnered with Jan in particular? Assuming the first but not sure what you're replying to.

Unpartnered with anyone. Seems to be floating free.

[baudib1]

If you reread the game from start, Zelda’s entry is ungodly wolfy.

[baudib1]

Headed back to bed.

[Gemma]

oh i thought that was going to be something more than just jan is a wolf because he sassed visor

well

oh well

that would also explain Gemma's pushing me today when I was pretty much the only one who defended her yesterday

i'm slightly confused by this are you saying as jan's partner i saw into the future and knew you were going to push him so i preemptively decided to push you? or something else (genuine question idgi)

also slightly confused why your defending me is relevant to this iyo (ngl i don't remember that happening but thanks all the same uwu)