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[Hally]

chat im lazy as fuck can like

6 of you wagon me real quick?

thanks

vote: maple

i’m a x6 voter

[Syn]

i think this is a wolfy post so if you're not a wolf (which i hope you're not) please stop making posts like this!

I won't

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Maple

I'm a 5x voter.

[Syn]

i don’t get what you’re saying in these posts

what do you mean by waza being the easier alignment-indicating target and what does that have to do with vaimes’ alignment?

I mean simply that more focus is being put on waza out of the two and that IME that's usually the villager of the two

where did vaimes repeat waza?

they both made the same "oh wow no hyper posting to start the game" remark. also emulated my post, and visor's. none suspicious on their own, altogether curious, especially with how vaimes utilized the copied observation specifically to get a townread from waza and anyone else engaging

[Syn]

I have no idea what syn is saying but i kinda think they believe it more compared to their last 2 wolf rands here

(Not a v read yet)

I don't believe anything

unless I do

[Syn]

i have a very specific read on syn that i'll probably share tomorrow before deadline, but it is in line with what ladd said

unvote
vote: cuth

xoxo

if your very specific read involves activity level, I must request you vote me again

[Vaimes]

it does not

[waza]

ehhh

cape v
vaimes v

sure on those two

taffy was the same tier as the first names but they were also who i was tinfoiling when i spoke to hally but i think that may just be me overthinking

ladd and hally and syn and wisdom lean v

[waza]

Ngl if i was visor id wolfread this post and double down on the w/w read lmao

good thing u made this post to unpair us

if i was visor i would read this as not w/w

[Cape90]

I mean simply that more focus is being put on waza out of the two and that IME that's usually the villager of the two



they both made the same "oh wow no hyper posting to start the game" remark. also emulated my post, and visor's. none suspicious on their own, altogether curious, especially with how vaimes utilized the copied observation specifically to get a townread from waza and anyone else engaging

I would say there is a distinction between waza and Vaimes saying the game was starting slow, waza expressing no surprise and Vaimes seemingly being more caught off guard by this.

Here is how I interpret how the convo was

1. waza questioned Vaimes' vote on you because he was sort of townreading you for saying you were going to lock visor in as town AND he felt that Vaimes' #13 was too casual of a comment towards you assuming that Vaimes voted you because of something you did. I see the thought process behind waza's argument as if the push on you was serious, waza would expect Vaimes to maybe question something you did in the moment to try to solve you.

2. Vaimes clears this up by saying that the vote was random and placed just because and that waza was making a lot of assumptions.

3. As soon as this is cleared up, Vaimes asks waza some questions and through this clearing up of the misunderstanding, waza finds Vaimes towny

I don't really see Vaimes weaponizing anything to make waza townread them, I fail to see what other observation they shared rather then the no hyper posters thing

[Cape90]

I swear i saw them write something like this:

i have a couple hesitations on how cape formulated their top town reads but i think i'm probably more likely to pay attention to that kind of thing than normal atm due to my recent history of like five straight wolfrands or something so i'm not putting a ton of weight on it

As a wolf in 1 of their last games here. Like i distinctively remember the post but i tried to look for it with some keywords and couldnt find it lol



I have no idea what syn is saying but i kinda think they believe it more compared to their last 2 wolf rands here

(Not a v read yet)

I wanted to respond to that cuth read, but realized I didn't have anything to say because I don't know what cuth is getting at, it's somehow both a nothingburger and not at the same time

[Cape90]

i think this is a wolfy post so if you're not a wolf (which i hope you're not) please stop making posts like this!

i both agree with this post and find it wolfy at the same time

[Cape90]

hally help, i think we are in similar boats here where we tend to be players who are quite generous when it comes to giving townreads

and i think if we both forced the issue we can both probs find weak/some reason to tr everyone here. i notice you felt the same dilemma or implied as much in one of your previous posts

so ive gone back to look for instances where i was too generous in one of my initial snapreads and one of them stands out, if you can do the same for me and hit me up when you do...im curious if we get the same result or not

I uh
have no idea what to think of this post

[Cape90]

ding ding ding

why would he feel pressure in a game moving this slowly

cuth never said anything about feeling pressure so idk what ur talking about

[Cape90]

hally i have bad news

i think we're going to end up doming this game

you have expressed the desire to tunnel many players in this game. Why are you settling on Hally?

[Vaimes]

cuth never said anything about feeling pressure so idk what ur talking about

read the rest of hally's post i quoted there

[Cuthillius]

I've randed wolf twice in high activity games since the last time i played here where i was also wolf but i don't think you were in that game but whatever

i think I'm overanalyzing it but it felt like a little bit tmi'y on like hally and then actual reads on the top two but throwing in stuff that wasn't villagery so that they didn't have to commit to it

like if they found two people actually villagery and then felt like they needed to have a third

but it's the thinnest thing and i really didn't Want to explain it

I'll try to use a better proportion of words to reads in the future~

[Cuthillius]

the above being about the cape salad

[Cape90]

read the rest of hally's post i quoted there

oh i got distracted by the pretty red letters my bad

[waza]

I've randed wolf twice in high activity games since the last time i played here where i was also wolf but i don't think you were in that game but whatever

i think I'm overanalyzing it but it felt like a little bit tmi'y on like hally and then actual reads on the top two but throwing in stuff that wasn't villagery so that they didn't have to commit to it

like if they found two people actually villagery and then felt like they needed to have a third

but it's the thinnest thing and i really didn't Want to explain it

I'll try to use a better proportion of words to reads in the future~

what do you think of the people sussing you? does anything come across as bad faith fypov

[Cuthillius]

eh

not really at this point and if i did i would not say it right now

[Cape90]

I've randed wolf twice in high activity games since the last time i played here where i was also wolf but i don't think you were in that game but whatever

i think I'm overanalyzing it but it felt like a little bit tmi'y on like hally and then actual reads on the top two but throwing in stuff that wasn't villagery so that they didn't have to commit to it

like if they found two people actually villagery and then felt like they needed to have a third

but it's the thinnest thing and i really didn't Want to explain it

I'll try to use a better proportion of words to reads in the future~

I stand by my Hally read and the fact Hally was, and still is towny. I don't think wolf admits to lurking while also saying that they didn't have anything interesting to say, like I townread that because I think wolves would WANT to say something there (I would say it's kind of similar to Hally's recent read on you #171 except for the fact that Hally literally didn't do anything even slightly useful there)

A lot of #95 feels like unfiltered thoughts which I do think shows a towny mindset, the unfilteredness also ties into why I townread the other 2 posts I referenced to a lesser extent.

I don't really know why you didn't directly just say this if you had this concern about my reads instead of being convoluted about it

[Cuthillius]

because it's fun being coy and also more saying it for my own benefit than anyone else probably tbh

also being clear about that sort of thing affects how people post which can be counterproductive

I'm not going to discuss that post any more

[EnderWiggin]

because it's fun being coy and also more saying it for my own benefit than anyone else probably tbh

also being clear about that sort of thing affects how people post which can be counterproductive

I'm not going to discuss that post any more

Being coy is definitely more fun.

[waza]

I stand by my Hally read and the fact Hally was, and still is towny. I don't think wolf admits to lurking while also saying that they didn't have anything interesting to say, like I townread that because I think wolves would WANT to say something there (I would say it's kind of similar to Hally's recent read on you #171 except for the fact that Hally literally didn't do anything even slightly useful there)

A lot of #95 feels like unfiltered thoughts which I do think shows a towny mindset, the unfilteredness also ties into why I townread the other 2 posts I referenced to a lesser extent.

I don't really know why you didn't directly just say this if you had this concern about my reads instead of being convoluted about it

tbf ladd kinda did it first in a more round about way

not saying two villas cant do it, but yeah just thought its worth pointing out

[waza]

eh now im worried about what things look like if cuth and maple are town

not sure what my world even looks like in that case though...

gth i think theres probs one in visor/rask - can think of reasons to be wary of both

probs one in cuth/maple/hally - this tier is different to the first two names because i can think of reasons to tr all 3, but the reasons for cuth and maple are kinda bad and weak and could easily be wrong but if i find good reasons to tr both then i immediately look at hally next after that, however if either of them are a wolf i probs just roll with hally as v

and then last in someone i miscleared (not cape or vaimes)

ender is somewhere but idk which of these 3 rows he fits into

[Cuthillius]

it's way too early to make that kind of post lmao

but you're probably town for it ig

[ladd]

eh now im worried about what things look like if cuth and maple are town

not sure what my world even looks like in that case though...

gth i think theres probs one in visor/rask - can think of reasons to be wary of both

probs one in cuth/maple/hally - this tier is different to the first two names because i can think of reasons to tr all 3, but the reasons for cuth and maple are kinda bad and weak and could easily be wrong but if i find good reasons to tr both then i immediately look at hally next after that, however if either of them are a wolf i probs just roll with hally as v

and then last in someone i miscleared (not cape or vaimes)

ender is somewhere but idk which of these 3 rows he fits into

Rask seemed pretty villagery to me, why are u wary?


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[ladd]

Fwiw i wouldnt villa read hally for the lurking thing, i have done it plenty as a wolf and have seen wolves do it (sunbae comes to mind)

And hally has a wolfing style pretty similar to mine (just better) so yea thats def not somethimg i would read them on


I think i agree with like all the stuff they have said so far tho so there is def good reasons to v read them


I v read syn now tho i am still unsure why they are putting so much focus on waza/vaimes needing to have a wolf, cant it just be v/v

[waza]

Rask seemed pretty villagery to me, why are u wary?


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some of it i already mentioned, some of it i thought of but others mentioned before i said it (for example him asking my about wisdom when there wasnt really much to rread wisdom on - to me it felt like he was trying to deflect my focus off from himself). that feeling somewhat doubled up when i question him again on why he felt syn saying "thanks" or "handshake" felt pockety when imo in the context syn said those things it felt perfectly fine and im not sure how else syn was supposed to have responded there. I dont see how me questioning him on that was enough for him to change his mind with his tr on me, i was questioning him in good faith. If i were to think how I felt when vaimes was questioning me i dont think that type of reaction crossed my mind so im not sure why it did to rask (obv people are different and can react differently but it just didnt feel warranted fmpov)

in hindsight im looking at his iso again and i think his answer on why he asked me about wis kinda checks out so maybe thats not so bad. and his tone is fairly decent. so gth id probs go visor before him and marinate on my thoughts on rask a bit more