Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Visor]

part of me thinks that the way ladd has treated lissa today is all about appealing to them to get them onto their side and that they aren't aligned, which would leave the last wolf in sunbae and ender

sunbae gave himself room yesterday to turn around on me, but has also v read me multiple times in that stretch, which just makes things hard to parse

ender/ladd i was pushing v early and i just cant get those d1 interactions out of my head, the turnaround just had no real logical rhyme or reason to it

but if ladd knows or thinks he is going down, it is possible he is setting up his bro to win in f3, which is likely sunbae/ender/lissa because i doubt their wolf bro tries to argue its a ladd/me world

man i fucking hate meta but i might resort to digging up old games for this lol

[Visor]

when it comes down to it i think theres three stories to the last wolf

1. did lissa bus?

to me this is a question for whoever is in f3 to decide. i totally understand the argument and logically it makes sense. but at the end of the day i just feel in my heart that lissa had a real read on jan and that we thought the same things at the same times because we were villagers on the same wavelength. we are not the most alike people, but in this i feel like wolf lissa would've struggled to match me, if she happened to get there by chance, thats a rough go and you can feel free to blame me if she is indeed a wolf and i cause yall to get it wrong. i think her uptick d3 and her reaction to ladd and ladds appeals to her make sense if she is v. i think her reaction to raskol d3 has a villagery ego to it in a way you get when you feel you have earned the right to be clear in a way that felt real to me in the moment.

gun to my head i would say she's a villager, but in f3 who knows, and if i make it there i'm not just going to lock her clear.

2. was sunbae's d3 a setup

this one is an interesting reverse of lissa's d3 in that lissa grew into a stronger read on me and a weaker read on ladd. if sunbae and ladd are wolves, it would make sense that sunbae gave himself room to push me and switch from village reading lissa and myself to wolfreading us and setting me up to potentially vote lissa and himself to vote me, giving them options in how to handle the day. sunbae has hemmed and hawwed over me today and oscillated from read to read. this is probably the hardest to parse for me just because sunbae is such a good player and i think the way he has played d3 was very smart if he was one. on the other hand i totally understand the indecisiveness and struggling to parse how this game has played out, feeling that i am a villager by my posting. i really liked his d2 and the way he approached the game. i'm not sure how to feel about ladds handling of him, including being very hands off and his posts towards me d3 basically pushing me for village reading sunbae. its something i wish i had like a month to sit on and think but i don't. ladds d3 was intended to set him up for f5, so in that case do i think that he was trying to set sunbae up as well in case it doesn't work? i would love for this to be a game where sunbae and i are v/v and we put the solve together in f5 to turn around the game, but i am just scared, lol.

3. terra nullius

at the end of the day i try not to care about mechs, what i care about are posts. i think at the end of the day ender probably has the worst posting of the remaining three. ofc if lissa is a wolf d2 was wild. i like his reaction to me d2. I liked his sod3, he felt like he had an ego about him and had some energy to his posting. i flip flop back and forth about his d1 posting and ladd going from lock wolf to its okay. i wonder if ladd thought that I was gonna dumpster ender and reacted like that, only to pull it back when nobody bought and he didn't need to actually bus. if i had to pick someone most likely to be a wolf, on balance it would probably be ender by a hair, but i can see the world where he is a villager low on time and took the gift horse from jan with the wolves expecting it to buy them that extra kill late because theres no way he could clear himself.

hopefully i am not in f3 to decide, f5 is stressful enough lol

[Lissa]

alright i am here

the ac seems fucked so it's 82 in our apartment and i am sitting at a barstool in the kitchen with a fan pointed right at me and i have no room to rest my arms lol

3/10 definitely not as bad as last year

anyway, i do think you are really villagery at a lot of points

everything in me says that i can and should just be decisive here but when it comes down to it, i have no idea what to do lol

[Visor]

alright i am here

the ac seems fucked so it's 82 in our apartment and i am sitting at a barstool in the kitchen with a fan pointed right at me and i have no room to rest my arms lol

3/10 definitely not as bad as last year

anyway, i do think you are really villagery at a lot of points

everything in me says that i can and should just be decisive here but when it comes down to it, i have no idea what to do lol

82 is awful jfc.

i cannot wait for winter. are you any closer to moving back to the house yet? lol

everything in me says that i can and should just be decisive here but when it comes down to it, i have no idea what to do lol

lol i understand this more than you can know. i knew i should've voted last night and just made the decision. i lost monty python on MU because i was too afraid of voting and then tim eventually voted me in part because of it. and yet here i am all these years later still making the same goddamned mistakes.

i just hate being wrong and i hate the feeling of people judging me lol. especially in endgame when it really is all your fault.

[Lissa]

82 is awful jfc.

i cannot wait for winter. are you any closer to moving back to the house yet? lol



lol i understand this more than you can know. i knew i should've voted last night and just made the decision. i lost monty python on MU because i was too afraid of voting and then tim eventually voted me in part because of it. and yet here i am all these years later still making the same goddamned mistakes.

i just hate being wrong and i hate the feeling of people judging me lol. especially in endgame when it really is all your fault.

yeah i hate summer. this one actually was fairly mild up until this month at least but its ramped up to be hot now

stuff is soooorta progressing but my moms friends husband who she wanted to use as a contractor but it turned out this dragged out so long he doesn't have time anymore cause he's trying to retire at the end of the year said he didn't think it'd be done by the end of the year LOL

we are hoping he is wrong

insane stuff

paralyzing fear of losing the game to being wrong in lylo has always been an achilles heel of mine

i have overcome most of my other confidence/fear of wrongness related issues and this one has improved to some extent but it is still pretty real ig lol

[Visor]

yeah i hate summer. this one actually was fairly mild up until this month at least but its ramped up to be hot now

stuff is soooorta progressing but my moms friends husband who she wanted to use as a contractor but it turned out this dragged out so long he doesn't have time anymore cause he's trying to retire at the end of the year said he didn't think it'd be done by the end of the year LOL

we are hoping he is wrong

insane stuff

paralyzing fear of losing the game to being wrong in lylo has always been an achilles heel of mine

i have overcome most of my other confidence/fear of wrongness related issues and this one has improved to some extent but it is still pretty real ig lol

that is truly awful, i am sorry for how badly that whole thing has gone

[Lissa]

i reaaallly feel the judgement thing. i have spent a lot of time over the years reminding myself that misvoting at lylo almost never truly puts the loss 100% on you, the rest of the game took steps that got you there too

its hard to internalize in the moment though

[Lissa]

i lost the j anon game in part because i waited so long to vote wiggles who i was pretty sure was the wolf

[Visor]

i reaaallly feel the judgement thing. i have spent a lot of time over the years reminding myself that misvoting at lylo almost never truly puts the loss 100% on you, the rest of the game took steps that got you there too

its hard to internalize in the moment though

i lost the j anon game in part because i waited so long to vote wiggles who i was pretty sure was the wolf

yeah same with me and dya. it still hurts tbh.

obviously it takes a village to both win and lose a game, but people don't remember some random early game kill, they remember what ended the game.

its hard to get over the fear of being wrong, and i am beginning to suspect it will be a lifelong process lol. especially when you have some self ego that means you want to be right and that being wrong in such a pivotal moment really crushes that.

[Lissa]

yeah its tough

i remember one game on pog where i lost to wolf insanity in f3 and i got a lot of shit for it, but it really made me think about how many things had gone wrong in particularly the day before f3 (iirc a consensus villager did something mechanically that risked his life and died and some other things i dont remember)

i realized a lot of things from losing both that and the infamous voxx f3 where people were so tilted from dvc i didnt even postgame in public lol

i have had some pretty good village games lately and finally started to develop like a healthy level of self confidence/ego in my village play so to speak but its still hard in lylo when it comes down to it lol, especially when i dont really feel like i can come to a confident answer


also maintenance brought in a portable ac i guess there is something wrong that it's too late to figure out today LMAO