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    OOC: This is an IC thread for members of the Order of St. John. IC letters from other nobles are allowed. But please keep requests to join the Order out of this thread. Any request to join can be sent to the Grandmaster in the form of an IC PM.

    Order of St. John


    You walk through the doors and see a great hall. While alcohol is absent, a good meal and good company can always be found. The Order has it's headquarters in Antioch and a chamber in the Senate building in Constantinople. The Order's Charter is framed and on a wall in the dining hall. A small chapel is off to your right and a library is off to your left. Feel at peace Brother, for you are among friends now.

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    The Order of St. John

    I.) Purpose: The Order of St. John is named in honor of Saint John Chrysostom. We exist to protect the Holy Land and to spread the Orthodox Faith.

    II.) Membership: The Order will consist of sergeants and knights.

    -A.) Any man who agrees to follow the rules can join the Order as a sergeant by swearing to a member of the Order's feudal chain.

    -B.) To be a full knight, a sergeant must be single, possess at least 2 chivalry, at least 3 piety, no female retinue, at least one province, and must be accepted by at least 2/3 of the current knights of the Order. Once a knight, the man will be addressed as Brother. For the purposes of the rules, knight and Brother are used interchangeably.

    -C.) If at anytime a knight fails to meet one of these requirements, their status may change depending on what requirement has been violated.

    --1.) If a knight loses a province due to it being conquered, the Brotherhood must do what it can to get that person a province. Excess provinces can be given to satisfy the requirement. New conquests can be authorized if excess provinces are not available. During this process, the person remains a knight and can keep the position of Grandmaster or Marshall.

    --2.) If the knight drops below 2 chivalry or 3 piety, he has 10 turns to rectify the situation. If he does not raise his stats to the required amount within 10 turns from the date of his violation, then the person drops in standing to a sergeant and loses the position of Grandmaster or Marshall. Once the sergeant gets his stats to the required amount, he is automatically brought back to the status of knight. This rule does not apply if the reason for the stat drop is illness.

    --3.) If a knight gains retinue that are not in keeping with the Order's values, they must remove that retinue immediately or they will be demoted to sergeant and lose the position of Grandmaster or Marshall. Once the retinue in question is gone, the man is automatically brought back to the status of knight.

    --4.) If a knight ever gets married, they permanently drop back to sergeant and lose the position of Grandmaster or Marshall.

    --5.) If a member of the Order ever becomes Caesar, they are immediately demoted to sergeant and must give their provinces and relics to members of the Order. They will also lose their position as Grandmaster or Marshall.

    --6.) If a member loses their position of Grandmaster or Marshall, a new one must immediately be chosen.

    -D.) Breaking from the Order's feudal chain, without immediatly reswearing to another Order member, will result in automatic expulsion from the Order.

    III.) Voting:

    -A.) Changes in the feudal structure and in the Charter can happen at any time as long as there is no dissent from among the Brothers.

    -B.) If there is dissent, there will be a vote among the Brothers at any time, but no less than 1 "turn" before the Senate goes into session.

    -C.) In voting, one Brother will equal one vote.

    -D.) Changes in the feudal structure of the Order, as well as it's Charter can be changed with a vote from 2/3rds of the Brothers.

    -E.) The decision of this vote will be binding on all including the Grandmaster.

    -F.) A vote made be made without a Knight if they have been inactive for 48 hours. (OOC: "inactive" means not on the board for 48 hours or, if the person uses invisible mode, no posts for 48 hours.)

    IV.) Grandmaster:

    -A.) The Grandmaster will be at the top of the feudal structure of the Order. When the Grandmaster changes, the feudal structure will reorder itself to place him at the top.

    -B.) He will be chosen from amongst the other knights by either unanimous consent or a 2/3 vote to reorder the feudal structure.

    -C.) When captured, Jerusalem will be the province of the Grandmaster and must be transferred to the new Grandmaster if the title changes hands.

    -D.) When relics are acquired, the Grandmaster gets first pick from among the relics possessed by members of the Order. When the title changes hands, the new Grandmaster will then get first choice from among the relics.

    -E.) Upon the Grandmaster's demotion, death, or retirement, a new one will be chosen immediately from amongst the knights.

    V.) Marshall:

    -A.) The Marshall is expected to be the Grandmaster's second in command and shall swear directly to the Grandmaster. When the Marshall changes, the feudal structure will reorder itself to place him as second in the chain.

    -B.) He will be chosen by the Grandmaster from amongst the other knights. This can not be contested by a vote to reorder the feudal structure. If the members wish to contest a the Grandmaster's pick for Marshall, they will have to pick a new Grandmaster.

    -C.) The Marshall will have the province of Antioch when it is captured. Antioch will transfer to the new Marshall if the title changes hands.

    -D.) When relics are acquired, the Marshall gets second pick from among the relics possessed by members of the Order. When the title changes hands, the new Marshall will then get second choice from among the relics.

    -E.) Upon the Marshall's demotion, death, or retirement, a new one will be chosen immediately by the Grandmaster from amongst the knights.

    VI.) Rules: Rules are binding upon sergeants and Brothers alike.

    -A.) All members of the Order must ensure that all prisoners they take in war do not come to harm so long as they remain in the custody of the Order.

    -B.) All members of the Order will occupy all settlements.

    -C.) All members of the Order will make sure that the church and Ikoner's studio in their settlement is at the highest level possible before building something else. Wall upgrades are the only exception.

    -D.) All members of the Order will attempt to have no tavern line buildings in their settlements. If necessary for public order, only the lowest level of tavern possible is allowed. But if a choice must be made between lowering taxes, and building a tavern, then building a tavern is allowed.

    -E.) All members of the Order will expel negative retinue as soon as they appear. This includes the adulteress, outlander adulteress, foreign fruitcake, and pagan magician.

    -F.) All members of the Order will ask that the Megas deny all marriage requests for their person. Adoptions and "Man of the Hour" are allowed.

    -G.) Territory and relics belonging to Order members is forever the property of the Order.

    --1.) Therefore, while a member may leave the Order at any time, he must first give his land and relics back to a member of the Order.

    --2.) Property and relics in wills must be left to members of the Order.

    --3.) At no time may an Order member give his provinces or relics to a non-Order member.

    --4.) The only exception allowed is if a member of the Order leaves the 1 province and 1 relic minimum to someone that they know will join the Order. (OOC: This means the player can give 1 province and 1 relic to their next avatar if that avatar is going to immediately join the Order once the player switches over.)

    -H.) Thieve Guilds and Assassin Guilds are not allowed within the territory of the Order. The Megas will be requested to deny any requests of this nature. If the request is accepted, the offending Guild building must be destroyed immediately.

    -I.) Members of the Order are expected to behave in an honorable manner.

    --1.) No member is to disagree with another member in public.

    --2.) A member should expect his edicts and CA's to be seconded by his fellow members.

    --3.) Members are not to verbally fight with other senators in the senate.

    --4.) If a member is having a problem with a senator, he is to go to the Grandmaster with his concerns so the Grandmaster can talk to the offending senator's lord.

    --5.) Members may go to the Hippodrome but must act in a manner that is in keeping with the Order's values. No gambling is allowed.

    -J.) No member of The Order can ever use the services of the Hashishin.

    VII.) Punishment: Failure to follow these rules may result in the demotion or expulsion of the member.

    -A.) Punishment will be decided from amongst the Brothers not being considered for punishment. Punishment can come about from a unanimous decision or a 3/4th vote at the normal voting time. A brother in question can not vote regarding his own punishment.

    -B.) Demotion will consist of the knight being demoted to a sergeant. The sergeant may be considered to be a full knight again once all of the knights agree.

    -C.) Expulsion will consist of the subject's lord breaking fealty with him, as well as the subject's vassals breaking fealty with the subject.

    -D.) Anyone who refuses to break fealty with the subject will be expelled as well.

    -E.) The expelled subject will be asked to leave the Order's lands and to give back any land to the Order. Land not given back to the Order will be taken back by force.


    Grandmasters:

    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos: 1081 - 1138
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1138 - 1170
    Vartholomaios Ksiros : 1170 - Present Day

    Marshalls:

    Armatos ek Naksou: 1090 - 1138
    Vartholomaios Ksiros: 1140 - 1170
    Theophylaktos Petzeas: 1173 - Present Day

    Knights:
    Armatos ek Naksou
    Vartholomaios Ksiros
    Theophylaktos Petzeas

    Land:

    Nicosia: Castle
    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos: 1081 - 1155
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1155 - Present day

    Antioch: Large City
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1090 - 1140
    Vartholomaios Ksiros: 1140 - Present day

    Aleppo: Town
    Nathanial ek Korintou: 1102 - 1140
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1140 - 1149
    Theophylaktos Petzeas: 1149 - Present day

    Adana: Castle
    Iakovos Kallipoleos: 1110 - 1126
    Vartholomaios Ksiros: 1126 - 1132 and 1137 - Present day
    Lost to Turks: 1132 - 1137

    Cairo: Large City
    Vissarionas ek Lesvou: 1128 - 1129
    Lost and then retaken by House Korakas

    Thebes: Wooden Castle
    Vissarionas ek Lesvou: 1129 - Present day

    Tortosa: Castle
    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos: 1137 - 1138
    Stavros ek Amarinthou: 1138 - 1149
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1149 - Present day

    Dongola: Castle
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1138 - Present day

    Acre: Castle
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1138 - Present day

    Damascus: Large Town
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1152 - Present day

    Relics:

    Iron Crown of Lombardy:
    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos: 1128 - 1171
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1171 - 1173
    Vartholomaios Ksiros: 1173 - Present Day

    Bridle of Constantine:
    Armatos ek Naksou: 1128 - 1173
    Vartholomaios Ksiros: 1173 - Present Day

    Feudal structure:

    Hypatos Vartholomaios Ksiros
    -Comes Theophylaktos Petzeas
    -Comes Armatos ek Naksou

    Retired:
    Koulianos Vourzos
    Areovindos ek Samou
    Iakovos Kallipoleos
    Stavros ek Amarinthou
    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
    Nathanail ek Korinthou
    Vissarionas ek Lesvou
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    Gentlemen, a new day has dawned! I do apologize for my absence, but I am here and we can get back on track. Since I am now in charge of the roster in addition to my other duties, I have decided to start a new transcript as well for bookkeeping purposes.

    (OOC: Made a new topic so I could edit the front page. For the record, this was my plan before PK got the thirty day ban.)

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    Welcome back, I was starting to get a little worried when your ship didn't arrive. I have been taking care of the books in the meantime, there are some letters that require your attention.

    Bart passes the grandmaster a stack of papers

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros
    Grand Master of the Order of St. John
    Prince of Antioch and Protector of Levant

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    Indeed, I'm glad to finally be here. Fortunately you've been on top of things. Even prepared for the worst from what I hear!

    Brother Vartholomaios, it is my pleasure to appoint you Marshall of the Order of St. John, and subsequently Prince of Antiokheia. Congratulations!

    Now then, time for some sleep. After working through the night to catch up, I shall tackle the weightier aspects of doing so when I'm well rested.
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    Gentlemen, I would like to remind you that with Brother Makedonios' retirement, it is no longer incumbent upon you to give him permission to move yourselves. I ask that you change that portion to read 'Armatos ek Naksou', or even better just 'The Grandmaster' so that it changes with the title.

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    Theo walks into the Orders rooms...

    That little dog! If I could I would cut his head off!

    To show how he would do that Theo hits with his sword against some vase.. cutting it in two...

    Banning me from the Maganaura! Who the hell he think he is!

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    Peace, Theophylaktos! It is wrong to make such threats against a fellow Roman; especially if he has not raised his sword to you first!

    What the Basileus did was wrong, but it was also of little consequence. This is the least important Magnaura session we've ever had, and you were still able to vote on it. We must save our outrage for when it can truly make a difference.

    ...And you're going to pay for that vase's replacement.

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    Theo calms down..

    I apologize.. I overreacted.. He better not do that again in the 'real' Senate Session!

    Oh and that vase.. Hope it wasn't expensive?

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    Regardless of that the Basileus does, it will be better for you if you learn to withstands the blows of politics with greater calm.

    And no, the vase was not expensive.

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    I have decided in my will that Tortosa will go to my Grandmaster Armatos ek Naksou.
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    Armatos enters the Order's meeting place with a solemn look on his face.

    I'm sorry to say... That Brother Stavros is no longer with us. It seems the voyage back didn't agree with him. The mortality rate among crusaders has been truly terrifying. Brother Vissarionas, I hope you're careful out there.

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    Sergeant Theophylaktos! In recognition of your erstwhile service to the Order of St. John, it is our assessment that you are to be promoted to a full knight immediately. In accordance with this, I am giving you the town of Aleppo as your personal desmense. I ask that you break your oath of fealty with Brother Makedonios and reswear to Brother Vissarionas.

    Congratulations!
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    I hereby break my oath to Brother Makedonios and reswear it to Brother Vissarionas.

    I'm honored and shall govern Aleppo the best I can!
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    Privateerkev has now missed two normal Senate sessions in a row. As a result, he is considered inactive and his province of Nicosia is now the property of his lord, Armatos ek Naksou (Cecil XIX). In addition, PK's inactive status means his oath of fealty is considered broken and he is now an unaffiliated Strator. He will remain so until he returns or is killed off due to inactivity.


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    OOC: Could Ramses move Theo on land and towards former Aleppo.

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    As long as your SoT permits it you can consider it done, as soon as I can reach land (Assuming they don't let me attack the Summit on Nicosia ).


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    Looks like Vissarionas left from the Order. So I hereby swear an Oath to Vartholomaios Ksiros.

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros makes an announcement

    As the new Grandmaster of the Order of St. John, I name Theophylaktos Petzeas as my marshall and the second in command of the Order. Should I be absent, he has all my authority to lead the Order. As a token of my gratitude and a sign of his new station I grant him the city of Antiokheia and the title of Prince of Antioch.

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros
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    Prince of Antioch and Protector of Levant

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    I thank you Grandmaster Vartholomaios. I will govern Antiokheia the best I can.

    Recent deaths of our knights have left only 3 people into the Order.
    I have to ask, is the current Order's hierarchy like this:

    Grandmaster Vartholomaios Ksiros
    - Marshall Theophylaktos Petzeas
    - Brother Armatos ek Naksou

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    It should be like that, as soon as Armatos swears a new oath.

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros
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    I hereby swear fealty to Vartholomaios Ksiros. In addition, I give to him the Iron Crown of Lombardy, the Bridle of Constantine, the Island of Cyprus and Nubia. (Dongola) May he do the Lord's will.
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    Grandmaster, I grow tired of my extended stay in Damascus. With your permission, I would like to ride out with the troops at my disposal and deal with the Turks threatening our lands.

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    Armatos, of course you have my permission for this noble endeavor. Please rid our north-eastern promises of invaders and rebels.

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros
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    The same German knight from the Magnuara appears again in the Order's main hall.

    Noble Brothers of the Order, in accordance with Armatos's will Vartholomaios Ksiros receives the provinces of Acre, Dongola and Damascus as well as the services of a chivalrous knight, a veteran warrior and a mercenary captain. Finally, the Bridle of Constantine is now in need of a new owner.

    The German bows, then leaves.

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    A young man quickly enters the Order's chambers.

    Noble Knights of St. John, permit me to introduce myself. I am Kousinos Sophianos. In these troubled times, please permit me to serve you as my benefactor Armatos ek Naksou would have wanted.

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    Kousinos Sophianos, I welcome you to join our Order and our fight against the muslim infidels. Now, swear fealty for our marshall Theo Petzeas to receive the rank of Sergeant of the Order of St. John!

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    Vartholomaios Ksiros
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    I hereby swear an oath of allegiance to Theophylaktos Petzeas.

    Kousinos bows.

    My apologies for the delay, Brothers.

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    This is more like a formality but.. I accept your Oath!

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    Aleksios ek Kerkiras enters the great hall in the Orders headquarters and sighs. The building and it's great hall looks almost abandoned. He saw some servants walking around but it is clear that the Glory Days of the Order have passed into oblivion.

    Aleksios walks towards one servant who was wiping some dust from the sculptures of the fallen knights of the Order...


    Go tell your master that

    I, Aleksios ek Kerkiras, swear an Oath of fealty to Vartholomaios Ksiros!

    I await his answer, positive of course, right here..

    Aleksios takes a seat behind the table in the center of the hall.

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    Iosef Ek Artas patted the dust of his cloak as his horse entered the court yard. He gazed around, looking for a stable boy. Finding none, he dismounted sighing. He started to wonder if coming here was a bad idea.
    Yet, the empire was at war on all sides. Since his loyalty to the basileus had taken him east, he had commited himself fighting the Turks.
    He had seen the ugly side of war. The battle for Damascus - though almost won - had left a bitter taste in his mouth. Too many friends had died that day. When it shouldn't had to be that way. If internal strife had been non-existant, the Turks wouldn't have been able to suprise him with 1vs3 odds.
    Damascus would now be in the fold of the Empire, and he himself would have been in time to aide Senator Petzeas in his battle against one of those retchet usurpers. He had admired the latter, so he taken a fancy to atleast visit the Order, to see whether or not he could aid the Empire to restore order both inside it's borders aswel as outside.

    As he walked in the vast great hall, he found the place near deserted. He only found one knight seated at the center table, who merely frowned at Iosef.
    As the knight was not familiar to Iosef, he thought it best to wait around for someone whom he could ask for both hospitality and information.



    OOC: Could someone inform me the purpose and the current allegiance of the order? :)

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