*Shrugs* I'll get the last laugh regardless in this, so vote either way.
*Shrugs* I'll get the last laugh regardless in this, so vote either way.
Lynch me, mafia wins, I am proven innocent even though the game is lost and you get to feel sorry White Eyes.
Lynch Reenk, town wins, I am proven innocent and right, you get to feel sorry White Eyes.
Wow, I win either way![]()
He's snapped! He's gone completely insane! Do we have an asylum on board?
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Vote: YLC
After reviewing a large # of posts, I will side with the Reenkster. If RR's our final eco-murderer, then I will be stunned at the "queen's gambit" they pulled -- for CR's writeup made it clear that khaan was tree-hugger #1 and Reenk shot him down more or less solo after he'd been hammered at unsuccessfully for so long. Not impossible, but given the numbers at that juncture I just don't think it would have been done. Plus, Reenk's investigating me on Night #3 and THEN using me as mafia bait by dangling my name out for targeting was classic detective behavior. Unless Reenk is some kind of SK/Detective, I just have the sense that he's the one to back here.
Furthermore, YLC, you revealed your PM stuff ONLY to Reenk -- as though he was the only one to be convinced -- even after CR had specifically re-asserted that quoting same would be permissable. Reenk's assessment was that it was impossible to confirm its veracity. So why did you not try to convince others and respond to Reenk's reveal with one of your own? "The mafia would then target me" is not much excuse pal -- they're planning to do it anyway and its a RARE townie role that is THAT indespensible.
If I have been fooled, then so be it, it will have been masterfully done. But my gut and my evaluation of post content says YLC is the last eco-maf.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Crazed Rabbit, please end the day now. I have no need to try and convince the remaining players whether I am right or wrong, so there will be no need for further deliberation. I am happy with any outcome at this point.
Unlikely, borderline impossible. And if I am a mafia, without knowledge, then I am happy the town won. What else do you want out of me?
*Gets out the popcorn and takes a front seat*
It could be either of the remaining players. Good choice with the last kill, you last of the treehuggers.
Why not make your role public for all to see YLC, it couldn't matter now?
Or have you made several versions of it? Chatorix's PMs indicate this. In which case it makes you that much guiltier.
Perfect timing on sending me that pm though, I was planning on getting all those who voted me out Reenkster style and you would have been next.![]()
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Actually, my role was rather weird, since I got it by asking CR if I could RP the ships A.I. CR had an unfinished role, and he gave it to me, saying take it or leave it. I did, and had some fun with it, even if the role itself was utterly ineffectual. I had to be creative with it, was all, and it was fairly easy enough.
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
But CA kinda gave away a crucial part of the game when he handed it off to me, and I showed him the roles I created with it, indicating that the fake role that it would actually work, meaning that the ability, even though I clearly did not have, worked for me, in that a test against it would mean it would hold water. To me, this meant the mafia had limited recruitment abilities, and the only person who had any form of role from the beginning and who kept spouting out that the mafia could continue to recruit when they clearly could not, meant that it was Reenk in my eyes.
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
None of that matters now, I have already recieved a PM from CR himself asking me -Hmmm, nice job town, you intentionally lost the gameOriginally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
EDIT - And these PM's are quoted perfectly, nothing Omitted or Added, and CR can confirm this![]()
Last edited by ULC; 12-06-2008 at 21:02.
-Oops, Double Post!-
Last edited by ULC; 12-06-2008 at 21:01.
I don't know, but YLC's PMs seems legit...
However, CR's role desciption can be interpreted either way. Either you became anti-treehugger or the 10 year indoctrination payed off and you became a brainwashed treehugger.
I always have doubts when it comes to the Reeinkmaster. I believe he does have the cojones to pull the stunt he did being a treehugger. It would be the perfect bluff which we are forced to believe.
Three mafia and no detective or any other roles seems unlikely.
Since no other player has come forward or disputed Reenk's role claim we are forced to believe he is genuine and at this point the last treehugger is either Seamus or YLC.
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Sigurd, your thinking about it wrong, Reenk can in fact be the last mafia and have a genuine role. I am sure the mafia could convert, but only 2 people. Reenk could have been the Detective originally, but was converted either the first or second night, most likely the very first night. He could then continue to function as a detective and mafia. It would explain why he lived even though he should have died, why his ability suddenly "fizzled". I don't think CR would just nerf both the mafia and the detective for no reason.
Voting is over.
Writeup to come.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Hmmm..I wonder what it will be like
Time for the town to feel guilty, bwahahaha
YLC why are you so evil?
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 12-07-2008 at 01:07.
The day began with a series of speeches by YLC. He spoke more eloquently than he had yet, accusing Reenk Roink of being the last killer among the crew. Had he been in front of a crowd, the speeches might well have been called stirring, but there were only three men alone in a room. The words echoed off the walls, making YLC seem isolated, a man alone practicing a speech.
After he finished, he glared at Reenk Roink. But Reenk merely laughed and proceeded to casually dismiss all that YLC had said. And so the decision was at an impasse, and the final decision came to Seamus Fermanagh, as they had all known it would.
Earlier he had reviewed the ships logs and even now was looking at some notes. In his mind he weighed the probabilities and went with the one he deemed most likely, voting for YLC.
Hearing that, YLC became dejected and gave up his arguments. He retired to the side of the room, occasionally muttering. As the Captain walked in, he deduced that YLC had been chosen.
He turned to face YLC and told Reenk and Seamus to help him put YLC in the cryo-chamber. Together, the three formed a line facing YLC. Seeing this, YLC stood up straighter and shifted his feet.
“It is not me! Reenk is the one! Has he controlled all your minds? Why are you doing this? Am I the only one left on this ship who is not a lover of the old tyranny?” demanded YLC, yelling and beginning to sweat. He looked at the three men approaching him nervously, his eyes shifting rapidly between them.
“Don’t fight it, YLC, it’s over,” said the Captain. The three men continued to cautiously make their way to YLC. He was shifting his weight, turning rapidly to face each of his opponents.
Finally the three were but a step away from YLC, and Reenk and Seamus reached out and grabbed his arms. YLC tried to pull his arms away, but the grip was firm and he gave up quickly. Then the men holding YLC shifted position to begin to lead him to the cryo-chamber.
Seeing the cryo-chamber in front of him, YLC again began talking, “Guys, it’s not me, you’ve got the wrong man. I’ve been framed, set up by the killers, like a puppet. Can’t you see? Can’t you see this? Why can’t you guys see? Why are you blind?”
With each word he was closer to the cryo-chamber. He did not walk calmly along, but tried to stop from being pulled forward. It was a futile effort. The men holding him were determined, though nervous beyond belief.
Soon half the distance had been crossed, and YLC continued to talk, “This is a mistake! I love this ship, I love our mission! I’ve cared for this ship, I’ve shed my blood and sweat for it! How can you be doing this to me?!”
They were almost to the cryo-chamber now. The lid was open. YLC began to put more effort into stopping his forward movement.
All of his earlier eloquence was gone, his words had become slurred together, “It’s not me!” he screamed, “I’m not the killer! It’s Reenk! Reenk’s the killer, and he’s framed me! He’s playing you all! Why can’t you see that?” YLC’s face was red, and he began to actively fight being thrown into the cryo-chamber. The huddle of men was only a few feet from the chamber, and the men holding YLC tightened their grips and began using all the force they could to push YLC in.
They had managed to pin his upper body in the chamber when YLC gave one last primal roar and surged out of the chamber. He tore loose his arm from Seamus and brought it to bear on Reenk, trying to strangle him. Reenk temporarily slacked his own grip on YLC’s other arm, which YLC took advantage of to begin to strangle Reenk with both hands. Reenk gasped for breath, struggling to tear YLC’s hands from his throat.
The Captain and Seamus both flung themselves on YLC, wrestling him into the chamber and helping to pry his hands off Reenk. But YLC was not through; he began kicking out even as his upper body was stuffed into the chamber. Finally, though, Reenk, Seamus, and the Captain had securely shut the lid over YLC.
His body was contorted under the lid and they could still see him yelling. The three men left on The Prometheus each panted for breath after the struggle. Seamus was bent over trying to regain his breath as Reenk held his throat and the Captain backed a few paces back.
For a moment, no one spoke. The ship was filled with an odd silence, leaving each man to his thoughts. Had they succeeded? Had they finally vanquished the tyrannical threat?
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to be continued very shortly...
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Hehehehe...
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After a few more moments, the panting ceased and the men stood straighter.
“Let us pray,” said the Captain, “That he was the last of the killers lurking on our ship. I would not have guessed that the communications officer would be one to support the oppressive tyranny.”
“Ironic that a machine gave us this victory,” said Reenk.
The Captain nodded, “Isn’t it? In the next few days I can see if we can release the innocent men we have imprisoned here, but I think that will take a great deal of time, if overriding the locks is even possible.”
Seamus looked out at the rows of cryo-chambers containing his fellow crewmembers.
“No, you misunderstand me,” said Reenk, “it is not your victory.”
With a roar, he reached for Seamus, grabbing his head and then bringing it violently down on the cryo-chamber containing YLC. Seamus could do nothing to stop the sudden onslaught, and the blow broke his nose and dazed him. As blood flowed from his nose and onto the cryo-chamber he slumped to the floor, groaning.
“NOOOO!” screamed the Captain, his face contorting in rage and fear, as he launched himself at Reenk. His hatred boiled over inside him as he now, finally, saw the last of the killers in front of him. Reenk was more than a mere killer to him; he was the embodiment of the enslavement of mankind, a dark force of tyrannical oppression. But Reenk turned confidently to face the onrushing Captain.
He set his feet and dodged, throwing the Captain into a cryo-chamber. The Captain yelled again, scrambling to get up. But Reenk was too quick, and he stomped on the Captain’s head, banging it against the floor. With that, the Captain’s yells died and he grunted in pain as his scrambling stopped.
Reenk kicked over the dazed Captain, a cruel smile on his face.
“You’re too late,” the Captain whispered, smiling, as blood ran down his face, “I’ve already set and locked in our course to earth. There’s no way to change it, especially for a mechanical moron like yourself.”
Reenk’s confidence did not waver. He simply smiled more and said, “Oh, I believe I’ll have plenty of time to change the course of this plagueship, even if I must read of your hateful machines to do it.”
The smile left the Captain’s face. He had failed. Humanity had entrusted him with this mission and he had failed. He was almost grateful as he saw Reenk’s boot slam down towards his face.
Reenk then finished off Seamus and looked out at the bloodied cryo-chamber room. His face beamed as he surveyed his new domain. Now, he was in control.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Great job guys. Special congrats to Reenk for an amazing job of going solo.
Quicktopic link.
However, there's gaps here and there from PM'ing. More details later.
Edit: I'm losing my manners, clearly.
Thanks for hosting a great, if slightly quirky, game, CR! It was, as always, a pleasure to be the underminer of town good.![]()
Last edited by seireikhaan; 12-07-2008 at 02:27.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
I'm glad the game was enjoyed.
And initial observations;
Sigurd believing Reenk straight-up after his own mafia game surprised me.
No one besides Reenk spotted the line in my write-up that would have ended him.
A prize to whoever finds it first! (The title of "Quickest to shut the barn door after the horse has left")
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
No one listens to YLC, no one believes YLC, YLC must be wrong, YLC is mafia, YLC is trying to trick us or behave dishonestly, lets lynch YLC (next time actually do it), ohYLC WAS RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME!
Hmmm...how do you feel White Eyes? Chaotix? Sigurd? Seamus? Hmmm...![]()
YLC you still helped the Mafia by trying VERY hard to survive in the end you can only blame yourself for helping Reenk by
1# giving him your role pm
2# accusing him LAST round when everyone is almost dead.....
3# and not going with PP when he voted Reenk(I mean if you knew, why not when it was 2v2?)
In the end this statement made by me pretty much said it all post 560#.....
To which it made my mind go "ohOriginally Posted by by White_eyes:D
" and I guess it was clear he was.....
ButGOOD JOB
Reenk you kicked some town butt with those BIG brass ones, lynching your own agents like that
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*shakes head at White Eyes* And what, have everyone immediately turn on me? If I voted Reenk, Phil would have changed his vote to me, and possibly Seamus, and most definitely Reenk. It would have been suicide, and the outcome would have been the same as it is now. No, I was waiting for the opportune moment, with the fewest people to convince. I know I screwed up by looking guilty, but I play as I go, I don't plot every move I make, and it was you who did not help the town White Eyes, but constantly putting pressure on me. If you thought it was Reenk too, then why not voice it? But you didn't, and made it a special quest to come after me instead. I even hinted at it being Reenk subtly as much as I could without suddenly becoming the lynch target, but I didn't do it well enough.
Also, the WHOLE ROLE thing was a falsity I contrived, to see what would happen. There was no harm in sharing it, since Reenk could do nothing about it, and even knew better.
I also did not try very hard to survive, in fact, I was kept alive by Reenk, otherwise who else could we just barely suspect? Reenk, for his continued survival and convenient loss of ability.
The simple fact is I miscalulated my play, and how gullible, or and how effective all others were. Reenk was masterful to some, but blindingly obvious to me. I am sorry I failed the town, but no one would believe half of what I say, or trust me at all, even though I knew not soon after, along with Yoyoma (who truly and firmly planted that seed in my mind), that the mafia could not recruit continuously, yet me, and especially Yoyoma, were ignored.
So I shut up, and waited until the opportune time. I miscalculated. Maybe I should have shared my thoughts with dead members, but I feared more contact then necessary, stupidly though, and I realize now Sigurd would have been more tactful to remove me from such thoughts, but then again, why should he have believed me? Reenk was able to play the fine line enough to make me look bad, but just not bad enough.
How, and which write up Crazed Rabbit? The one before last?
Now now, fellas. No need to point fingers at who's fault it all was. It was all good and fun, but lets remember that it is indeed just a game.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
I'm still going to hound White Eyes in every game until he cries Uncle![]()
Defeated yet again. I only win when I'm deaded.
Masterfully played by the "baddies." The gambit was, ultimately, what took me in. YLC, how you saw through that I do not know.
Anything less than the reveal-lynch of the badguy leader would have led me to switch my vote to Reenk at the end -- and I was sorely tempted to do so -- but went with the odds.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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