Maybe a few before and after pics?
Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
Maybe a few before and after pics?
Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
Very interesting thread, guys.
In the Paeninsula Italica mod (I work on the EDU) I'm using this very simple model : 0.4 - (MORALE/100)
So the Spartiatai, for example, will have a radius of : 0.4 - 0.17 = 0.23 that is very close to the optimum. Less drilled units will have a looser formation, and levy hoplites will fight in a manner only slightly more tight than non-hoplites units.
I suggest give this feature to all units that have the first value in the formation line inferior than 1.
About the discussion about Iphikratous, IMHO the decision of the EB team is senseless. The fast cavalry catchers are:
1. for old style hoplites, the Ekdromoi.
2. for reformed hoplites, the Thureophoroi.
The only point in the existence of such a unit as Iphikratous hoplitai is to portrait the advantage of new hoplites in spear lenght, and the only way to achieve this is through the phalanx formation. Again, IMHO.
Cheers
EDIT: I don't remember if already posted, anyway, original discussion here http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=188651
Last edited by Aper; 01-11-2009 at 11:44.
Originally Posted by vartan
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Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
Meh. Pain in the a... rear to upload and all. Do your own experiments you lazy git!
Yeah well, the EB Thureophoroi aren't all that fast (partly because of relatively heavy equipement, partly because of model-sharing issues with the heavier Thorakitai)... they're more like a hoplite/legionary crossbreed really.
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Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
You think I've got the time for that? >_<
Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
What ever happened to the out runner hoplite's fast attribute. They kinda blow without it as they can't catch anything.
As for Iphs, I usually use a three man deep formation against infantry. I also usually guard mode up until the enemy is exhausted and only then switch to attack.
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Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
They had it the last I checked... (like twenty seconds ago...) ...why ?
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Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
EB1.2 on ALEX with Better Boats Mod, did not touch any stats. Right now, they are just better stamina Militia Hoplites.
Last edited by antisocialmunky; 01-11-2009 at 23:09.
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Re: Phalanxes in version 1.1
That's what my 1.2 DMB says, and what the engine actually uses. None of my business if it doesn't show up in the unit purchase interface.Code:; Hellenistic infantry - Ekdromoi Hoplitai / Red Sea Hoplites type hellenistic_infantry_ekdromoihoplitai_redseahoplites skeleton fs_fast_o_f_spearman
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