The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

[Sigurd]

I don't need to explain myself. (Because I can't prove that Yoyoma is one of the mafia who I think she is)

And when you lynch me you will lynch another townie.

You are not exactly in danger of being lynched just yet. But I am and would welcome any theories you might have. Why do you suspect Yoyoma is mafia?

[Quintus.JC]

After reading through the thread quickly I would probably vote for Ibu-Khaldun if I were alive, but there is no certainty about his aligement. Only one thing is certain, the mafia will surely strike again unless you do something about it.

[Andres]

Voting concluded.

Stand by for execution.

[TinCow]

Yeesh, you're all being foolish. For once, you've got actual evidence before you. We've got a confirmed role blocker. The confirmation comes from multiple people receiving night PMs from Andres, which are impossible for GH to fake. Thus, GH's ability to block is confirmed, and his pro-town nature is almost guaranteed (almost, because I never consider anything to be an absolute in mafia).

GH has produced evidence that there were fewer kills on nights when Sigurd, Quintus, and boudica were blocked. This evidence is very decent and is vastly superior to lynching based on posting and voting patterns. Get your heads out of your and lynch the people listed above.

[Reenk Roink]

Yeesh, you're all being foolish. For once, you've got actual evidence before you. We've got a confirmed role blocker. The confirmation comes from multiple people receiving night PMs from Andres, which are impossible for GH to fake. Thus, GH's ability to block is confirmed, and his pro-town nature is almost guaranteed (almost, because I never consider anything to be an absolute in mafia).

How do your previous statements AT ALL imply the bolded part?

[TinCow]

How do your previous statements AT ALL imply the bolded part?

My previous statements don't, but I'll be happy to explain my line of thought. First, we know GH can role block because it has been confirmed by many people, too many for them all to be mafia. Second, role blocking is not an ability that is likely to be given to mafia. Third, the descriptions of the old man in the write-ups appear anything but scummy.

As I specifically stated, this does not mean GH absolutely is pro-town. This is an Andres mafia game, so it's certainly possible he could be mafia or neutral. However, the evidence I see points strongly to pro-town at this point in time. If evidence appears that disputes GH's allegiance to the town, I will reassess the situation then.

[Reenk Roink]

My previous statements don't, but I'll be happy to explain my line of thought. First, we know GH can role block because it has been confirmed by many people, too many for them all to be mafia. Second, role blocking is not an ability that is likely to be given to mafia. Third, the descriptions of the old man in the write-ups appear anything but scummy.

Thanks for explaining. I still think it's quite plausible for a Mafia group to have a roleblocker, but the third case is quite a good one I didn't think of. The old man really just wanted to tell me stories.

GH, since your role is quite well known now, might you at least quote some parts of your PM to us? I understand if you snip certain things out for security reasons. Just put my mind to ease.

[Sigurd]

Yeesh, you're all being foolish. For once, you've got actual evidence before you. We've got a confirmed role blocker. The confirmation comes from multiple people receiving night PMs from Andres, which are impossible for GH to fake. Thus, GH's ability to block is confirmed, and his pro-town nature is almost guaranteed (almost, because I never consider anything to be an absolute in mafia).

GH has produced evidence that there were fewer kills on nights when Sigurd, Quintus, and boudica were blocked. This evidence is very decent and is vastly superior to lynching based on posting and voting patterns. Get your heads out of your and lynch the people listed above.

I am never lucky with dice...

But you are wrong. You should know better. The mafia can opt for not killing and make false clues such as this to slip under the radar. You have used it yourself in other games.
Besides Quintus is already dead.
GH said so himself... He was waiting for the feedback PM before making the vote. When it did not reveal anything he voted me based on gut feeling.

Seireikhaan is probably innocent. Should he survive I would let him live. Nobody plays that balsy if they are mafia.

[TinCow]

I am never lucky with dice...

But you are wrong. You should know better. The mafia can opt for not killing and make false clues such as this to slip under the radar. You have used it yourself in other games.
Besides Quintus is already dead.
GH said so himself... He was waiting for the feedback PM before making the vote. When it did not reveal anything he voted me based on gut feeling.

Of course they can opt to not kill. Sheer probability suggests that most, if not all, of the 3 of you are townies. However, this is the only solid evidence that exists in the game right now. Everything else is the usual analysis of posting patterns. If mafia has taught me anything, it's that hard evidence is ALWAYS better to work on than hunches and post-analysis. The games I have won as mafia have largely been because I was able to get the town to ignore the evidence and vote based on less solid leads.

At the current time, the evidence shows people being blocked on nights that there were fewer kills. I challenge anyone to tell me what evidence there is out there right now that is stronger than this.

[Sigurd]

At the current time, the evidence shows people being blocked on nights that there were fewer kills. I challenge anyone to tell me what evidence there is out there right now that is stronger than this.

Yet no failed attempts were narrated as promised. Either a) GH has not blocked a mafia at all or b) He blocked the mafia on the day the mafia chose to not kill.

But the mafia has not got rid of the blocker yet and they had the chance last night. Why? I suspect something fishy.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Now.. let's see..

Night 1:
Killed: 777Ares777

Could be totally random kill.

Day 1:
Lynched: TinCow : 7 (GH, shlin28, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, Tevashzat, FactionHeir, Ignoramus)
Tevashzat : 6 (Quintus.JC, YLC, Sigurd, Yoyoma, TinCow, Seamus Fermanagh)

He got 'bandwagonned'?? I doubt it.

Night 2:
Killed: No kills

Mafia investigating/recruiting like someone proposed??

Day 2:
Lynched: Tevashzat : 8 (Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, YLC, Sigurd, Yoyoma1910, Ibn-Khaldun, TheFlax, glyphz)

The 'Runner-up' of previous lynch gets .. lynched. I have to admit that I voted only against him because I had no time to fully read all the posts and he seemed like his guilty. I think I was wrong.
Yoyoma voted for Teva last time and this time he gets lynched. Coincident?? I don't think so.

Night 3:
Killed: TheFlax, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes :D

Mafia probably had the chance to kill 3 certain townies and they used it.

Day3:
Lynched: FactionHeir : 2 (boudica, shlin28)

Jolt : 1 (Yoyoma1910)

You see who gets her vote and I wonder who was lynched the next day??

Night 4:
Killed: Askthepizzaguy

Vigilante kill as someone suggested. I think I agree. I also think this was a wrong move IF Vigilante killed him.

Day 4:
Lynched: Jolt : 2 (Chaotix27, Yoyoma1910)

No way, Jolt is lynched?? Coincident??

Night 5:
Killed: Quintus.JC

Quiet night with only one kill.

Day: 5
Lynched: Sigurd: 3 (GH, YLC, w&f)
Ibn Khadun: 2 (Shlin, Yoyoma)

Since I got her vote I guess I will die Day 6???
OR I get killed by mafia this night because I pissed off the wrong person??

Anyway, to me she seems to be the 'original' mafia who recruited some people to help lynch people who could reveal her. In the same time she is reducing townies in night too.
Those 'grave diggers' or what ever they are could have a secondary objective to justify their actions.