The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[taka]

i'll be honest that i havent followed this thread at all aside from the summary one

who investigated pever/YLC and found him innocent? if its Tevash then its seems he's not even come to reply/post

i for some reason am VERY inclined to think YLC/pever is Mafia just for the sole reason of the song thing. YLC's hosted game has had 3 songs in the night write-ups very similar to this game. and why replace YLC is he's just a townie? if he was WOG'd it'd clear his innocence

also there's not vig role to whoever mentioned it. it clearly states the roles on post 1

so...

vote: YLC/Pever

[Chaotix]

taka, that's really not the best of reasons to go after people for. For one thing, we mostly believe that it's been GH who was implementing the songs, not the mafia, because they always occur in the second part of the write-up with the introduction to the next day.

Additionally, it's not all that uncommon for hosts to put music into write-ups, in order to set the scene. I did it in The Lunar Whale (check my sig), and Reenk used songs in his "Watcher" posts throughout Fillet Royale.

Speaking of Reenk, I don't think he should be let off the hook just yet.

EDIT: Also, taka, as GH clearly states in the rules, there will be a "special twist" to this game as there have been for the past two Godfather mafia games. I am inclined to believe the nudicyclist is our "special twist".

[taka]

im really not concentrating at all am i?

in my defense im gonna say i've personally not played a game with music been put in the write-up, nor have i played a GF mafia :P so i didnt know

[White_eyes:D]

I am going to Vote:Seamus...clearly it had something to do with someone upset with Sasaki and how he was manipulating town.....Seamus fits that description....and on Tevash....we should let him swim for now......I think he will be WOGG'ed or lynched in the future, because he has just come on for five minutes to view the index thread and then gone.......

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Ok, first things first:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

holy cramoly! 167 posts?!

Second: You started this game a bit more... active than usual, Seamus. Reason?

edit: To clarify, there is more to this- I would simply prefer to move one point at a time.

A trip down memory lane. When I started -- and Silver's game was among my first -- I charted every vote and sifted through them for clues. I was more active in posting too. Doing so allowed me one of my few mafia spottings in my first game. I drifted away from that style after a while -- too pigeon-holing -- but resurrected it when GH resurrected this classic.

Here's this games (choppy, but I don't know how to import an excel spreadsheet here):

Name Role Claim Fate PrePosts D1 (elect) d2 d2+ d3 d4 d5 d5+ d6
187Beefyz 1 beefy, reenk pizza seamus beefy, abs taka, unv tev pizza
777Ares777 3 sig, shlin abs, glyphz, sask tinc, siggy ylc tev, abs
Andres 1 andy, shlin, sig?, shlin sask seamus abs, siggy siggy pizza pizza seamus
Askthepizzaguy L4 6 pizza, reenk gsc, winter iggy tev tev, pizza
boudica M2 1 pizza seamus abs
Chaotix27 1 arach andy seamus gly, ylc reenk tev reenk
CountArach M1 1 andy, shlin
Gaius Scribonius Curio 1 CA qjc sask, w-eyes siggy qjc tev
glyphz 1 tinc ares, chtx seamus siggy pizza, tev
Ichigo L1 1 reenk

Ignoramus M5 1 seamus ylc tev
Jolt M4 1 glyphz abs ichi griz griz
LittleGrizzly 1 khaan, shlin abs ichi jolt jolt sask
Lord Winter L2 1 beefy seamus abs
Quintus.JC 1 pizza, shlin abs,gsc seamus ylc tev tev, unv
Reenk Roink 4 reenk, shlin abs sask siggy pizza pizza seamus
Rythmic 1 reenk iggy ichi abs beefy, taka seamus, Tev tev
Sasaki Kojiro M5 2 reenk khaan, tinc, ichi winter, beefy, winter ylc, siggy pizza pizza
Seamus Fermanagh Townie 2 reenk ylc abs, beefy siggy, ryt pizza pizza
seireikhaan M2 2 seamus shlin ichi
shlin28 Chief* 1 shlin cnv cnv cnv cnv cnv cnv
Sigurd L3 4 ichi ichi ylc, reenk
taka 1 ichi abs siggy tev
TevashSzat 1 shlin andy sask ylc pizza pizza
TinCow M3 1 tinc beefy ichi beefy, abs, siggy
Tratorix M1 1 shlin
White_eyes:D 1 reenk abs seamus abs, winter pizza
YLC 2 boud sask, seamus seamus sask ylc, siggy, ylc tev
GH Post Closes Phase 154 280/299 330 486 798
GH Night Result 208 351 558 700 1016
stopped at 1034



Here's GF2!

Name Investigated Fate Role Family Victims Vote #1 Vote #1b Vote #2 Vote #3 Vote #4 Vote #5 Vote #6 Vote #7 Vote #8 Vote #9 Vote #10 Vote #10b
Big King S ~ S5 ~ Dutch Guy Drisos Abstain ~ ~ ~ ~
Byz-Merc ~ M3 ~ Abstain ~ ~ ~
Cowhead ~ M7 ~ Drisos ~ Abstain RTWguru Ignoramus Myrdraal ~ ~
Crazed Rabbit ~ L8 y ~ Drisos ~ ~ Sasaki Ignoramus ~ Seamus Fermanagh Seamus Fermanagh Husar Husar
Csar 1 gf Abstain Drisos Kommodus Sasaki Ignoramus Abstain ~ Sigurd Crazed Rabbit Sigurd Husar Husar
Destroyer ~ S4 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Div Wind 1 Chief Abstain* Drisos* Sigurd* Sigurd* CNV CNV CNV-Gen. Hanky CNV CNV ~ Csar
Don Corleone ~ M9 y ~ Abstain Drisos Peas Phil Sasaki Ignoramus Evil Maniac Gen. Hanky Seamus Fermanagh Myrdraal Csar
Drisos ~ L1 ~ Don Corleone* Divine Wind Husar
Dutch Guy ~ M5 ~ Abstain Drisos ~ Abstain ~ Csar
Evil Maniac ~ L5 ~ ~ ~ Abstain Abstain ~ ~ ~
Gen. Hanky ~ L6 mafia ~ Abstain Drisos Kommodus Sasaki Abstain Evil Maniac Husar Husar
Husar 0 RTW Guru Abstain Don Corleone Don Corleone Ignoramus Evil Maniac Gen. Hanky Seamus Fermanagh Abstain Myrddraal Csar Csar
Ignoramus ~ L4 ~ Ignoramus Abstain Kommodus ~ Gen. Hanky ~
Kommodus ~ L2 ~ Abstain ~ ~ Husar
Lemur ~ M1 ~ ~
Major Robert D ~ M2 Divine Wind Drisos ~
Masy ~ M10 ~ Abstain Drisos ~ ~ Ignoramus ~ Husar Csar Crazed Rabbit Myrddraal Csar
Myrddraal ~ L9 mafia Abstain ~ Kommodus Abstain ~ Big King S ~ Seamus Fermanagh ~ Sigurd ~
Peasant Phil ~ S5 ~ Gen. Hanky Abstain Abstain ~ ~ ~ ~
Proletariat ~ M8 y ~ Abstain ~ Husar ~ Ignoramus Evil Maniac Gen. Hanky ~ Csar
Sasaki ~ L3 ~ Drisos Drisos Kommodus Don Corleone Csar
Seamus ~ L7 y ~ Abstain Drisos Kommodus ~ Myrdraal Big King S Gen. Hanky Crazed Rabbit Csar
Sigurd 2 Abstain Abstain Kommodus (Don C) Ignoramus Proletariat ~ Seamus Fermanagh Crazed Rabbit Myrddraal Husar Csar
Sir Moody ~ M3 ~ Don Corleone Divine Wind Don Corleone Husar
the RTW Guru ~ M4 ~ Don Corleone ~ Kommodus No Lynch ~
Ultrawar ~ M1 ~ ~
Xiahou ~ M6 y Divine Wind Divine Wind Don Corleone Don Corleone Ignoramus Evil Maniac ~

I was lynched


"Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the "Hit Parade"...


EDIT: having just got to White Eyes' post.

WE:

Huh? Where in blazes have you got the idea I'm upset with Sasaki? I never posted such. In dealing with him, it is always prudent to remember Rule #1, but that's hardly a condemnation.

You're gonna use that writeup to pin your vote on me as a unicycling vigilante?

At least 'khaan's using actual data. He's on the wrong track, but for the right reasons.

[TinCow]

I think this games might be a record for most information produced without anything useful coming out of it.

[White_eyes:D]

You're gonna use that writeup to pin your vote on me as a unicycling vigilante?

ok....I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.....but give me some evidence that you wouldn't do a write-up that long and action-packed.... but I have a feeling you would do a write-up like that Seamus.....

I think this game might be a record for most information produced without anything useful coming out of it.

Edit: I know....can we get a Org. award for it.....??

[White_eyes:D]

How do you like my new sig, TinCow??? I had to hold my sides laughing when you said that.....

[Ignoramus]

[Thermal]

While I would like to vote for Tevash, I can't help but shake this feeling I've been having all game that Ares is a grunt.

I'm watching you.

Am I on the right track so far? (and just who is ATPG, is he a dead mafia again?)

[Beefy187]

im really not concentrating at all am i?

in my defense im gonna say i've personally not played a game with music been put in the write-up, nor have i played a GF mafia :P so i didnt know

Congrats for your triple 2 post count.

[seireikhaan]

C'mon guys, please do not take your eye off the ball. I am 99% certain that Tevash's reveal is completely false. It would be in the town's benefit to lynch him.

Seamus- I'll respond tomorrow later. I need sleep, for now.

[Beefy187]

C'mon guys, please do not take your eye off the ball. I am 99% certain that Tevash's reveal is completely false. It would be in the town's benefit to lynch him.

Seamus- I'll respond tomorrow later. I need sleep, for now.

Im about 80 percent sure that Tevash's reveal is false. But 20 percent in my head says "its against Bushidou to lynch someone who haven't defended him self"

[taka]

Congrats for your triple 2 post count.

thanks!

[Andres]

C'mon guys, please do not take your eye off the ball. I am 99% certain that Tevash's reveal is completely false. It would be in the town's benefit to lynch him.

Seamus- I'll respond tomorrow later. I need sleep, for now.

Tevashzat needs to spill the beans.

Unvote : Seamus
Vote : Tevashzat

Role pm + night action results, please.

Also, on the unicyclist thing: the mafia does its' own write-ups, without interference from the host, so it might be possible that the unicyclist killer is mafia and that this all something to put us on the wrong track, making us believe that there is mafia and a serial killer/vigilante.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reason I am still here:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Beefy, TinCow, LittleGrizzly, Quintus.JC, Chaotix27, YLC, Rythmic, WhiteEyes, boudica, Reenk Roink, 777Ares777, Glyphz all appreciated my work and said good job. CountArach was fine with it. Andres said my system was a "useful tool". GH appreciated the burst of activity.
Reenk Roink- "Askthepizzaguy, I admire the effort you put in these games, I really do. And don't let some mutterings otherwise stop you. Enjoy these games in your own way." Ichigo didn't complain or otherwise really talk. Seireikhaan said I was annoying at times, but actually he defended me most of the time.

Dissenting opinions: Sasaki Kojiro, TevashSzat

People I probably annoyed and I am truly, truly sorry: Andres

As such, given how most everyone in the game wanted my opinion and stated so, I will continue, thank you. I appreciate your support and will tone down anything that might be misconstrued as self-centered, egotistical, condescending, or whatever. If it came across that way I apologize again, but I do know all of you in this game, and you're used to me by now and know I do mean no harm.

The two people who seemed especially annoyed by me had good reason to do so, as I will now post my Mid-game accusation.

Interesting to see how Sasaki Kojiro died, the writeup tends to indicate that he was an anti-town scumbag. Wanna know why I am here? I came back tonight to accuse him. I finally concluded the following:


TOP SUSPECTS:

TevashSzat- Case closed, no role PM, has no defense. He's the Godfather.

Sasaki Kojiro (re-read his sudden and distinctly, and decisively anti-Pizzaguy turn when the heat was cranked up on TevashSzat. There was no call for that, especially after how courteous and flattering I was towards him. He also lied about my vote for Lord Winter not being the decisive one, said it wasn't tied. According to the tallies at the time, it was, and when Ares changed his vote, it would have been again. And he keeps hammering that point as if it mattered. And he was entirely, and distinctly anti-Seireikhaan even though SK is absolutely innocent.)

Reenk/Shlin - Equal now in my opinion. Take your pick for 3rd place. Sasaki defended Reenk Roink, but also suggested no one would ever want to be a CoP as mafia.

Current theory: TevashSzat is the Godfather, Sasaki Kojiro is his henchman, and Reenk or Shlin if the game still continues. I am now actually more convinced Lord Winter was the other henchman.

Reenk could react this way if he was innocent. I cannot and will not clear him, and perhaps his behavior matches his usual Reenkosity, and still trips my detection net.

Shlin needs to go before Reenk does, and I would nominate Chaotix27, Quintus.JC, or anyone who supported me over Tevash as the next Chief of Police. But I have a feeling he might have been a townie all this time now, on further analysis.


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Apologies Reenk and Shlin for having accused you earlier. But it had a purpose, did it not? I need to refine my web of detection and my spidey senses, but the earlier analysis was preliminary, always was.

As such, I beg your forgiveness, and ask you to lynch TevashSzat. Apologies I still cannot clear you, but I am lightening my stance in retrospect. OK? Let's win this thing.



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Seireikhaan and Seamus: A good ploy, but you aren't fooling me, if I am correct. Good job nailing Sasaki Kojiro. I bow to your abilities.



TOWN: DO NOT LYNCH SEAMUS THIS ROUND.


Apologies Andres for being a pain in the backside this game. I am truly sorry.

[White_eyes:D]

TOWN: DO NOT LYNCH SEAMUS THIS ROUND.

I am waiting for Tevash's reveal....but if he fails to by the time I wake up.....I am voting him no matter what..... Seamus is likely Pro-town.....but killing Sasaki makes me nervous...
I don't trust vigilantes.... and it could just be a ploy by the Mafia....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just want to say, I never actually cleared Sasaki. Being the player that he is, I wanted to see what he would do if I pointed suspicion away from him. He used his time to go on the offensive, and his analysis all game has been well off the mark, and his defense of TevashSzat in particular breaks the rule of defending people you cannot know are innocent.

I "cleared" people in the game, but readily admit, I have no proof whatsoever, and can and just did reverse my stated opinion. I will admit I still thought Reenk and Shlin were baddies, but we all make mistakes.

[CountArach]

Up to Page 14 now... must... push... through.

[Askthepizzaguy]

TevashSzat
Last Activity: Yesterday 12:45


I feel it necessary to point out that TevashSzat has no defense, no revealed role PM, and is intentionally avoiding talking to you.

*lights a cigar*

“WITH THIS, I TAKE US FROM THE DARKNESS OF ETERNAL OBLIVION INTO THE GLORIOUS LIGHT!!!”

Yes, let us cleanse this town of the oppression of the land rapists, those locusts who feed upon the innocent and claim roles they do not have. Let them be purified inside the Glorious Light.

All praise the prophet 'khaan, the disciple Reenk, and the foolish blabbermouth, Askthepizzaguy who got himself killed far, far too early that game.

[Beefy187]

How many hours do we have left again?

[Reenk Roink]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HD1x_kZRQQ

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH seems to be consistent that the rounds end around 1400.

That would be 9 hours away if I can do basic math, which I can't.




Sit down, Pizza! Sit down Pizza!
(Will someone shut that man up? NEVER!!! NEVER!!!)

[Beefy187]

Alright, ill vote for Tevash if he doesn't show up in the next 3 hours

[pevergreen]

I'll be online for the next 6 hours or so, checking every so often. I may vote for him if he turns up, but if he comes online again and does not post, then I shall vote for him.

I'm still watchiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing you ares.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have no proof, but I doubt Ares is scum.

[Beefy187]

I have no proof, but I doubt Ares is scum.

Why so?

[pevergreen]

Why should he go out to defend Ares?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look at his voting pattern. Here, I'll grab it for you. BRB.

For reference, here's the summary thread.

day 1: Ares elected Shlin.
day 2: Ares voted Sasaki.
day 2a: Ares didn't vote for Ichigo or Sigurd.
day 3: Ares voted for Sigurd, but he wasn't lynched that day.
day 4: Ares didn't vote.
day 5: Voted for YLC because he didn't feel either of us were guilty. So he left the fate of the game to chance.
day 5a: Ares abstained during the tie vote, and left the fate of the game to chance.


Sorry, that means he's a townie.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

As of this moment Tevash needs to produce his role PM to have any chance of convincing me he is not a fake. Fortunately, like Beefy, I am loathe to condemn a man without giving him a chance to conduct a defence. I would also suggest that Seamus is a poor target at the moment, as far as I can tell it is only a hunch from 'Khaan which has him up as a target.

I'd say that the unicyclist is probably a vigilante, based on his belief he is saving the town from doom, however it is equally plausible that he represents a SK. I'd say it would seem unlikely that the Mafia have hijacked the character for their use.

QJC, you still have not answered my suspicions of you from the previous day. Hoping I'd forget? Vote: QJC, pending response.

Can't stick around, SF tonight, be back tomorrow morning, hopefully before the final tally.