Legion vs. Phalanx online tournament

[machinor]

Quick question: Do I have to switch to MP mode to watch the replays or do they also work in campaign mode?

[Olaf Blackeyes]

When do we get to see who winzorz!?!!

[the man with no name]

Wow, I'm overwhelmed... thanks for all the balloons!

And, Nameless Dude... all the jury needs from participants is the replay file (you have the option of saving the recording of a battle after you finish it), then we can handle recordings should we choose to make a video, or screenshots for an AAR of sorts.
The Replay file will be universally available and posted on the thread mainpage (or on a separate therad if we get the sub-forum).

And, of course, you are more than welcome to join!
Would it be ok if I asked you to join as a Roman?

Btw the man with no name is the guy, who Clint Eastwood plays in alot of westerns. He is 1 bad ass bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



No problamo. When, i'm very forgetful and i have scouts and church, so i need specific times plz.

[soup_alex]

Btw the man with no name is the guy, who Clint Eastwood plays in alot of westerns.

Also, to some, "Blondie"


[edit: Sod, didn't see your posts. Thanks Tolg & Phalanx300 for clearing that up for me.]

[antisocialmunky]

Quick question: Do I have to switch to MP mode to watch the replays or do they also work in campaign mode?

No as multiplayer has no replay option.

[Βελισάριος]

Signatures for everyone!
These are for each contestant, if he wishes to use it:




Maion, I need you to confirm that I spelled "Strategos" right.

Obviously, the other Hellenic factions will need to be represented, but one at a time.

[Gabeed]

Woohoo, thanks!

And the spelling of strategos is indeed correct.

[Maion Maroneios]

Great stuff mate and yes, it's correct

Maion

[Ibrahim]

so when wioll the recordings be available (if possible)?

[IrishHitman]

Can someone post an updated guide to getting on multiplayer?

[Βελισάριος]

The replays have already been posted.

As for geeting on Multiplayer, you need: RTW vanilla v1.5, EB 1.2 with all fixes, and a good internet connection.
Afterwards, you just start the game from where it says "EB Configuration", select "Multiplayer" then go on Online Battles, or LAN Battles if you're using Hamachi.

[IrishHitman]

The replays have already been posted.

As for geeting on Multiplayer, you need: RTW vanilla v1.5, EB 1.2 with all fixes, and a good internet connection.
Afterwards, you just start the game from where it says "EB Configuration", select "Multiplayer" then go on Online Battles, or LAN Battles if you're using Hamachi.

Lovely, see you on it I suppose/
Do you need Gamespy?

[Phalanx300]

Installing Hamachi might be easier, though when hamachi is installed gamespy doesn't work anymore for some reason.

[Potocello]

Installing Hamachi might be easier, though when hamachi is installed gamespy doesn't work anymore for some reason.

Really? Couldn't you just turn Hamachi off to use gamespy?

Would anyone want to play later?

[Phalanx300]

No that doesn't work either, at least for me it doesn't. As long as it is installed I can't use gamespy.

Anyways, I'm willing to play. And Potocello I've noticed in those last 2 replays that you put your Hoplites in guard mode, in guard mode they will fight worse.

Maybe some rules need to be decided on the Hoplites since they are a bit underpowerd in EB(in terms of formation).

[Tolg]

Can someone post an updated guide to getting on multiplayer?

Here you go:

This guide is written so that anyone can understand it. Please just ignore the obvious bits.


I. Guide to play EB over the Internet using RTW online game feature

1. Make sure that you have a clean install of:
   • RTW + Patch 1.3 + Patch 1.5
   • EB 1.1
   • EB 1.2
   • The EB 1.2 Fixes
   
   (Installed in this order)
2. Check if your firewall allows RTW to access the Internet.
3. Start EB using the multiplayer .exe
4. Click "Multiplayer"
5. Click "Online Battles"
6. If it asks you to enter your CD key, click "Change CD key" and enter the key of your copy of RTW
7. Afterwards click "Online battles" again.
8. When it asks you to enter your name do so (preferably the name you use on the forums so your opponent can recognize you)
9. You should now be in the Lobby and your screen should look somewhat like this:
   Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

   
   In order to play an online battle, one player has to "host" a game and the other one has to "join" it.
10. a) If you're the one joining just check all the three servers (Chat Lobby, Competitive and Friendly) in the box at the bottom right for a yellow game name, if there are multiple ones check the host's name by placing your cursor on top of the game's entry in the list.
    b) If you're the one hosting, click the icon with the two screens. Your screen will look like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    
    . Enter a name for your game, select the max. number of players and the unit scale and then press "Host Custom Battle". (You don't need a password) Afterwards do what you would do if you were setting up a sp custom battle.
11. After both players have joined select your factions, press the arrow in the corner at the bottom right, set up your armies press the arrow again and FIGHT!
12. Don't forget to save the replay once your done!

II. Guide to play EB over the Internet using Hamachi

1. See step 1) and 2) of the previous guide.
2. Download Hamachi
3. Install Hamachi and read it's tutorial. It only tales ~2 minutes but helps a lot.
4. a) Create a Hamachi network (press the triangul button at the bottom left of the Hamachi window, select create network, enter the name and a password and hit OK)
   b) Join the network that was created by your opponent. (The triangular button again, join network and enter name and pw of the network)
5. Now it get's tricky:
6. Cut your main internet connection.
7. Start EB using the mp .exe and click "Multiplayer" and "Lan Battle"
8. Minimize your game (Alt + Tab or Alt + Esc)
9. Reenable your Internet connection
10. return to the game and do as described in the previous guide (Step 8).
11. [B]Don't forget to save the replay once your done!

[Potocello]

No that doesn't work either, at least for me it doesn't. As long as it is installed I can't use gamespy.

Anyways, I'm willing to play. And Potocello I've noticed in those last 2 replays that you put your Hoplites in guard mode, in guard mode they will fight worse.

Maybe some rules need to be decided on the Hoplites since they are a bit underpowerd in EB(in terms of formation).

Do they really fight worse? That's a shame they look more realistic that way. No more guard mode then.

Phalanx300 i can play in like two hourse if you're still wanting to.

[IrishHitman]

Alright, who wants to fight?

Do they really fight worse? That's a shame they look more realistic that way. No more guard mode then.

Phalanx300 i can play in like two hourse if you're still wanting to.

They only fight worse if they become surrounded (which non-guard mode generally creates).
In a wider formation to your opponent, guard more works better, provided you have decent troops.

[Phalanx300]

Do they really fight worse? That's a shame they look more realistic that way. No more guard mode then.

Phalanx300 i can play in like two hourse if you're still wanting to.

Yes they do, and it is a shame. Guard mode is more used for a defensive force to hold their ground, not for a agressive Hoplite Phalanx. I personally use the 0.2 density to represent the Hoplite Phalanx better though it can't be used of other players don't have it as well.

And play in two hours is fine, right now is fine as well.


Irish, with fighting worse I mean kill-death ratio.

And I'm ready to play now, I have Hamachi installed though.

[alexanderthegreater]

I just reinstalled everything yesterday.
But checking the recent posts on this thread---
My non-compatibility issue was apparantly because i didnt use the MP.exe but started EB with the SP.exe
I had a shortcut to that so i never started from the original folder and hence didnt find out there even was a mp. exe.
That solves that mystery.
Anyone in for a quick game now? can do it in the next half hour.

PS on gamespy im afraid.

[Tolg]

Two new replays from the tournament test are up:

2vs2

IrishHitman + Potocello VS Tolg + Phalanx300
(Macedonia + Koinon Hellenon) VS (Rome + Rome)

http://www.mediafire.com/?gf01kyd1n5g

Result: Draw


1vs1vs1vs

IrishHitman (Macedonia -left game early) - Potocello (KH) - Tolg (Rome) - Phalanx (Epeiros)

http://www.mediafire.com/?azzmdyjnwyy

CPU attacked me but was repelled easily, then Phalanx attacked Potocello but lost (the only interesting part of the battle then we called it a draw or as I prefer it to say, unresolved. (Unlike the 2vs2, which we called a draw because no one thought that he still had a realistic chance to win, this one just got boring.)

[antisocialmunky]

Guard mode only works better for heavily armed units against non-AP heavy units where you don't order them to attack. Otherwise non-guard works better. I still usually use guard on my hoplites though. Guard without attack is mainly for tiring the enemy and then killing them all with non-guard mode. If you're fighting AP units or untis that take forever to tire out, non-guard can be a better option.

Still hoplites and Roman infantry feel at home in guardmode.

[the man with no name]

Signatures for everyone!
These are for each contestant, if he wishes to use it:

How do you make sigs? I ask cuz im new to the forums. In advance thank you to whoever tells me. Also i'm skiing this weekend so I hope this isn't inconvient for you cuz I can't battle any 1.

[Potocello]

You have to use a program like photoshop to make signatures no name.

[antisocialmunky]

I just watched the 2vs2 replay. It was pretty cool especially because it was on normal. The team work could have been better on both team's parts but it was a fairly respectable battle especially when red finally attacked.

It is not without critiques though. You guys seem too scared of engaging the phalanx. And while I would normally agree to be cautious because they are ahrd to kill when they are just sitting there. It is actually fairly easy to break through one with proper mass. I think that maroon actually could have done better by breaking through the center or going further to the right to turn the phalanx.

Don't be scared to fight against a phalanx, its not that bad with the proper concentration of force. I put together a little demonstration for you:

http://files.filefront.com/PunchingH.../fileinfo.html

Mind you it is the AI but it didn't do that poorly. He couldn't have saved its center anyways.

[Βελισάριος]

I guess they have the same fear, or rather frustration as I do... losing troops. I get so frustrated sometimes if I lose too many soldiers that I'll exit a battle and start again. I'm crazy like that sometimes.

On another note... more siggies for Hellenic Strategoi:






With a promise for a few Roman signatures to follow.

Oh, and... Ptolemaic and Seleukid fans will have to give me some screenshots to work with. I find myself lacking in that area.

[Dutchhoplite]

What replays??

[Tolg]

What replays??

If your asking for the replays of the test tournament, they're here.

[Potocello]

Just to make it clear, which factions are allowed in this tournament?

[IrishHitman]

I just watched the 2vs2 replay. It was pretty cool especially because it was on normal. The team work could have been better on both team's parts but it was a fairly respectable battle especially when red finally attacked.

It is not without critiques though. You guys seem too scared of engaging the phalanx. And while I would normally agree to be cautious because they are ahrd to kill when they are just sitting there. It is actually fairly easy to break through one with proper mass. I think that maroon actually could have done better by breaking through the center or going further to the right to turn the phalanx.

Don't be scared to fight against a phalanx, its not that bad with the proper concentration of force. I put together a little demonstration for you:

http://files.filefront.com/PunchingH.../fileinfo.html

Mind you it is the AI but it didn't do that poorly. He couldn't have saved its center anyways.

Excuse me, but I, as the Macedonia player, was first to attack.
With devastating effect on Phalanx's line.
I had Phalanx's units in a rout when Poto's (KH) line collapsed.