The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[Reenk Roink]

I don't trust anything you say, Reenk. You had multiple chances to act like a proper townie.

Unless you can give an EXCEPTIONAL reason why we should trust you, I put a huge amount of doubt on your credibility.

And why should I fit myself into a flawed mode of behavior used by a system that has been debunked many times throughout this game?

Does it matter that you trust me? You're dead and your influence on the remaining living players is minimal.

Atpg, I urge you to take your own words about your "flawed" and "incorrect" opinions and let the living discuss. Because as much as you say it's our choice, you seem to want to insert yourself in the game. This is fine, but it also contradicts many previous statements of yours.

This is hilarious. Go Reenk Go!!!

This is for you Ichigo!

[taka]

Quintus, i heed you to unvote WE and vote either reenk or andres

that would at the very least give us time for an extension

[White_eyes:D]

Reenk has confused the hell outta me............if he is Godfather this has been the most ballsy he has EVER played......anyways.....I gotta go.......good luck town....(you well need it....)

[Reenk Roink]

You complain about Andres for days whilst appearing unhelpful and then when you finally get a chance to lynch him you change your mind...

Hello LittleGrizzly

I wanted to lynch Andres badly, but as soon as I voted for him, the other townies wanted to make it a tie.

And this is somehow my fault?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is it time to pull out Occam's Razor?

If the Godfather cannot recruit, we can nail him next round, if it's not Reenk.

But that's a huge gamble... and to me, the twist of the game has never been fully explained. I suspect recruitment, and it's always better to nail the Godfather, isn't it?

If QJC and White Eyes want Reenk to be lynched for being poor-townie/obvious-mafia, why not? It's not my call. Roll the dice however which way you like.



And Reenk, QJC and the others did ask me for my opinion. I know I've failed them a half dozen times this game, but I dishonour them by laying down on the job and giving up.

I don't give up! I go away when town wants me to go away! I think it's clear you're no townie, I am just asking them to decide whether or not they risk the game on you being the Godfather, or someone else you're protecting...

Reenk, if you truly cared for the town, you wouldn't have voted yourself and half a dozen others without reason in the final round to confuse us.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

White Eyes = GF
Reenk = remaining mafioso

But that's only a hunch......

[Andres]

Compare White_Eyes:D posts with his behaviour in Chicago Soirée, where he was town. It's a completely different White_Eyes:D than here.

Reenk's behaviour is just too dangerous for a Godfather. Yes, you can cry WIFOM as much as you want, but a) I don't believe in WIFOM ; b) Reenk is great at confusing everybody, I hosted Ephesus, where he acted confusing to mislead the bad guys. I think he never managed to get rid of the Loki role he once got in Midgard .

Yes, Reenk Roink's behaviour would justify a lynch, but not now, in the end game. I've he were truly the Godfather, he would have lurked this round out. The more I think about it, the more I think he's not the Godfather nor a grunt.

Quintus.JC is not a suspect in my book and as for taka, I once insisted on his lynching because of his lurking and mafia like posting style and he was innocent so in this game, he gets the benefit of the doubt.

That leaves Beefy187 and White_Eyes:D. The latter just seems more suspicous to me than the former and I'll stick to my vote.

And to all you who think I'm scum, in round 1 Sasaki threatened to switch his vote to me which would have gotten me lynched right HERE. As you can see I didn't move. In the previous round, I could have easily avoided the lynch and I decided again not to move.

Would I risk a lynch in round 1, even as a grunt? Cry WIFOM as much as you want, but I'm not thát much of a gambler.

[taka]

i need to go for a nap, as i got a long night ahead of me later on

My vote on andres stays, and as a summary of what i think:

assuming we have 2 scums:
Reenk is the grunt
Andres is the God father

if just the one,
the its gotta be reenk

statistically, lynching andres would be a better choice, and if we get to the next round, reenk is deffinately the lynch target

i hope town would heed my advice. reenk is deffinately very tempting, but andres is deffinately the better choice to make

[Reenk Roink]

White eyes should and will be lynched this round.

And I truly hope then when this game is ended, behavioral analysis will be severely weakened because too many times I have seen people fall into the rut of predetermined hunches where then every action is construed as scummy.

Does anyone here seriously think that let's say Andres or I could have acted differently the last couple of rounds and not gotten the same conclusions hurled at us?

[Andres]

Please taka, read my post before you leave. It's not me nor Reenk.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If we seem to be agreeing, even Andres seems to be agreeing, that Reenk is not acting like any townie, can I just ask...

what do we lose from lynching him this round, then? What if I am wrong about Andres? What if Andres is wrong about White Eyes?

Could we be happy with an almost certain mafioso dead?

[Reenk Roink]

If we seem to be agreeing, even Andres seems to be agreeing, that Reenk is not acting like any townie, can I just ask...

what do we lose from lynching him this round, then? What if I am wrong about Andres? What if Andres is wrong about White Eyes?

Could we be happy with an almost certain mafioso dead?

Because in your scenario, I am the grunt and Andres is the Godfather.

[Andres]

We should assume a worst case scenario, i.e. two mafiosi still alive.

We have to take into account the very likely possibility that both Reenk and me were kept alive because people get nervous if we survive for too long and lynch us "to be sure".

Think objective, disregard reputation and look at Reenks behaviour and mine. It wouldn't make sense if one of us were the Godfather.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think that both Andres and Reenk Roink's behavior now is motivated by fear, whereas, under pressure, White_Eyes, Quintus, and Taka had no advocates, and looked as though they were ready to die.

Everything that Andres and Reenk are saying, is precisely what I'd expect them to say as mafia. But they would have made a better case all game for who the Godfather was, if they were innocent. To me, their play all game suggests that they don't care who it is... which tells me they know who it is.

But that's what I see. What do you guys see?

[taka]

the first post u linked

u was in a 4 way tie.... 1/4 chance of being lynched, which is pretty low i think since at the time there were more lynch worthy players

and the 2nd/3rd link... i too would play it careful if i was GF with grunts, no need to draw suspicion, and as i said it was a 4 way tie, not like, a 2 way

im confused, yes, but personally i feel reenk is 99% one of the scums, and andres too...... i feel is fairly highish chance

and both you and reenk seem to be defending each other now

[Askthepizzaguy]

Turns out it doesn't matter.

Beefy isn't here. Quintus.JC is offline. White_Eyes isn't here. Only Taka is here, and the votes aren't going any way besides White_eyes.

As such, there is little point in this continuing. We've lost.


And yes, Andres and Reenk are defending each other now. And that's enough to keep them both alive. So, this discussion is a farce.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unless of course, Andres votes for Reenk Roink, or vice versa.

Good joke... good joke.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Gah. Of course a crucial part of mafia strategy is picking the right people to be alive in endgame.

Lynch beefy or white_eyes.

[Reenk Roink]

Think objective, disregard reputation and look at Reenks behaviour and mine. It wouldn't make sense if one of us were the Godfather.

I strongly disagree that behavior lends much in the direction of the Mafia.

I will leave your case and use my own.

This entire game certain people (from the dead) have said I was scummy. Yet I have never faced any lynch threats save one slight chance which I brought upon myself by tying it early.

I could have easily known what behaviors would get me in trouble with who, killed off the ones who would jump on me with that behavior.

If I am allowed and able to look objectively at my self, I would say my behavior gives very slight inclinations (and behavior can only give the slightest of inclinations) towards my innocence in some respects, and my guilt in others.

And that is how I would like to have it.

I will go now, and hope that White eyes is lynched when I return. Will tell you my thoughts after the next round of kills if there are any.

[taka]

Unless of course, Andres votes for Reenk Roink, or vice versa.

Good joke... good joke.

very funny indeed

[Askthepizzaguy]

That does remind me, Reenk.

You did tie the votes on yourself that round. As such, I have to say... ballsy enough play to warrant the nod from me. I nearly forgot.

That means it falls to Andres... does Reenk Roink vote Andres?




edit: Bah, of course not, he's leaving.

White_eyes is dead, and Reenk is leaving because he knows that the mafia survived the round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well....

With my top two suspects defending one another... and white_eyes as good as dead...


What's a pizzaman to do?

Well played, mafioso. You wanted it more than the town did.
I hope at the very least I held your feet to the fire and made you earn it nice and square.

Have a

Here's hoping I was dead wrong about everything, all along. It's town's best hope.

[Thermal]

White eyes should and will be lynched this round.

Seconded Andres looks innocent to me

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sure.

Go for it. Why not?

[Thermal]

Sure.

Go for it. Why not?

Ummm, if i must give a reason because he could be innocent, otherwise lets go with it!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

-edit- Whoops, one minute off.

[GeneralHankerchief]

(The following is written mostly by Reenk Roink)

Day 11

Everybody was tense. They were down to six, and not quite sure how many villains were left. People looked around, trying to both analyze other people's movements and at the same time not be analyzed. When there were so few people left, it was impossible to hide.

The votes were eventually tallied and White_eyes:D was the one doomed to judgment by The Wanax. But White_eyes was a scrappy one and the small number of remaining townies had a difficult time restraining and subjugating him so that he could be brought to the Gameroom square.

As the summons of The Wanax were heard, the townies took White_eyes in chains until they saw the silhouette of The Wanax, waiting silently as usual. Though they had been through this ritual before several times, it never seemed to be any less unnerving.

"BRING ME THE DAMNED!" The Wanax boomed suddenly.

White_eyes was pushed towards the square. The Wanax seemed much taller than before, but that was probably due to the fact that WE had never dared come near The Wanax before.

After some silence, White_eyes swallowed some of his fear and took a defiant tone: "Your job is to be the Chief of Police who protects us and finds the Godfather but all you seem to do is terrorize us and use us as fodder for your sadistic punishments! Well, I don't care anymore, do your worst!"

The Wanax, who seemed to be at that point reaching for his phasgana stopped. Though his face remained a static void, White_eyes swore he saw The Wanax raise an eyebrow and then grin.

"Very well," said The Wanax. He then proceeded to utter some chants, and then a small twister localized over the Gameroom square. The townies watched in awe as Askthepizzaguy's body rematerialized. Looking startled for the first minute of his being resurrected, Askthepizzaguy soon got down to business.

Pulling out many documents and charts he began to make SkyNet cases:

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..."

The townies all screeched in unison as their eyes and ears went sore from the yakking. The began to run away from the Gameroom square. At this point The Wanax uttered some more chants and a giant clear dome encircled himself, Askthepizzaguy, and White_eyes.

Now that the auditory threat was neutralized, the townies found that by looking indirectly, they could watch the spectacle.

White_eyes was running around screaming, eyes wide shut and ears plugged. Still he could not stop being exposed to the cases of Askthepizzaguy.

Realizing that there was no escape, he began to bang his head on the walls of the dome when he realized the material was some kind of thick, unbrittle aerogel, incapable of dealing a knockout blow. The ground was also made with the same material.

So White_eyes, who was now probably better off being named White_eyes:(, was doomed to spend his last moments with Askthepizzaguy and die at the hands of his SkyNet cases.

A couple of minutes was all it took for White_eyes to finally drop dead, after some unsuccessful lunge attempts at Askthepizzaguy. The townies watched in horror as gray matter began to ooze slowly out of WE's eyes and ears.

However, Askthepizzaguy did not stop, but rather now turned towards The Wanax, pointed an accusatory finger, and began making another case.

The Wanax however, quickly drew his phasgana and cleaved Askthepizzaguy in two.

After burying White_eyes and reburying Askthepizzaguy, the townies went back to their dwellings, apprehensive about what lay ahead.

Day 11 tally:

White_eyes:D: 3 (Andres, Quintus.JC, Reenk Roink)
Reenk Roink: 1 (White_eyes:D)
Andres: 1 (taka)
Quintus.JC: 1 (Beefy187)

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (5)
Andres
Quintus.JC
Reenk Roink
Beefy187
taka

Killed:
Tratorix
CountArach
seireikhaan
boudica
TinCow
Jolt
Ignoramus
Sasaki Kojiro
Psychonaut
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix27
pevergreen
777Ares777

Executed:
Ichigo
Lord Winter
Sigurd
Askthepizzaguy
TevashSzat
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
glyphz
Gaius Scribonius Curio
White_eyes:D

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fitting.

Apprehensive is right. Seems even the Reenkster knows in his own writeup how doomed we all are.



*buried, and defeated*

[Andres]

Gah.

ATPG, did you even read my post.

Forget about reputation, forget about previous games. Would it make sense for me to behave as I've done? Disregard my posting style and just look at the facts. I was at the risk of getting lynched round 1 and at risk of getting lynched in the previous round and I could have saved my skin by changing a vote, to be more clearly: I could have saved my life with one post, by myself, yet I didn't.

Reenk Roink had his odd behaviour questioned and has been at the risk of being lynched for it. He could have easily lurked himself to victory this round if he were scum. He didn't.

Those are facts.

This is the end game. You're damn right I'm not willing to throw away my life and so is Reenk. This is a crucial round. Possible our very last chance to obtain a townie win.

At this stage of the game, a townie should not risk his life and should not waste his vote. There's a high probability of this being the final round in which we HAVE to lynch scum.

taka, Quintus.JC, Beefy187 and White_Eyes:D are left.

I don't think taka or Quintus.JC are guilty, have good reasons to believe W_E is and am in doubt about Beefy187.



Yes I could be wrong. That's always a possibilty, because in the end, no matter how confident or sure you are (or pretend to be), it's always a bit of guessing in mafia.

I think it's White_Eyes:D.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

See, this is why I wanted reenk as CoP from the beginning