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[Meneldil]

France unit roster is completely lacking, but then, most factions' unit rosters are actually lacking. Hope someone will be working on a realism mod soon.

[Callahan9119]

Uhh how are rosters lacking, you want them to invent units?

There were guns, cannon, grenades and horse. and thats what we get, without over reaching for obscure or romantic unit types like they have in the past

The units are fine.

[Sheogorath]

Uhh how are rosters lacking, you want them to invent units?

There were guns, cannon, grenades and horse. and thats what we get, without over reaching for obscure or romantic unit types like they have in the past

The units are fine.

The British got two unique elite infantry, three light infantry, and at least one unique line infantry that I can think of right now, without ETW at hand. Plus their lifeguard cavalry.

[Graphic]

France unit roster is completely lacking, but then, most factions' unit rosters are actually lacking. Hope someone will be working on a realism mod soon.

Excuse the horrific spelling...

Chasseurs a Pied, Regiments Estrangers, Infanterie Petit-Veux, Gendarmie, Courours de Bois, Tiralleurs, Royal Ecossois, Maison du Roi, Chasseurs de Cheval, Chevaux-Legers, Garde du Corps...this is not counting colonial and native units.

No offense but maybe you should actually check their roster in the custom battle menu, or play more than 3 turns with them in the campaign.

[Sir Beane]

Some factions have very good unit rosters. France and Britain for example. A few other factions could certainly do with their rosters being fleshed out with a few more unique units.

[Meneldil]

Excuse the horrific spelling...

Chasseurs a Pied, Regiments Estrangers, Infanterie Petit-Veux, Gendarmie, Courours de Bois, Tiralleurs, Royal Ecossois, Maison du Roi, Chasseurs de Cheval, Chevaux-Legers, Garde du Corps...this is not counting colonial and native units.

No offense but maybe you should actually check their roster in the custom battle menu, or play more than 3 turns with them in the campaign.

Except that most of these units are just generic units with a french name, to make them sound unique. Read the descriptions. Except for a few of them, they all have generic descriptions.
The only one I can think of that actually has a proper description and isn't a generic unit with a french name is the Maison du Roi. And well, too bad, but the Maison du Roi wasn't a single elite squad, but a military administration that basically was in charge of all bodyguard and royal units, such as the Gardes Suisses, the Gendarmes, the Mousquetaires and half a dozen others.

So yeah, the french roster is bad. One or two ahistorical faction specific units? Wow.
Now, overall, most factions have poor rosters, and the french one at least sounds original thanks to the french names, but overall, ETW is disappointing in that regard.

[Sir Beane]

Except that most of these units are just generic units with a french name, to make them sound unique. Read the descriptions. Except for a few of them, they all have generic descriptions.
The only one I can think of that actually has a proper description and isn't a generic unit with a french name is the Maison du Roi. And well, too bad, but the Maison du Roi wasn't a single elite squad, but a military administration that basically was in charge of all bodyguard and royal units, such as the Gardes Suisses, the Gendarmes, the Mousquetaires and half a dozen others.

So yeah, the french roster is bad. One or two ahistorical faction specific units? Wow.
Now, overall, most factions have poor rosters, and the french one at least sounds original thanks to the french names, but overall, ETW is disappointing in that regard.

CA really can't seem to win can they? If they add in lots of different units to add variety they are accused of making up unhistorical fantasy units, and ruining balance. If they give each faction a historically accurate and balanced unit roster people accuse them of laziness and not putting in enough units.

I would like a few more units for some factions, but mostly they haven't done a bad job. The rosters aren't 'bad' per se, they could just use a little expansion.

Out of interest do you have any ideas for units they could add to say, France or Britain? (This is a genuine question btw, I wondered what they might have missed).

[Beskar]

Wait until they get further, when it's all "Conscript, artillery, trench digger"

[Sheogorath]

CA really can't seem to win can they? If they add in lots of different units to add variety they are accused of making up unhistorical fantasy units, and ruining balance. If they give each faction a historically accurate and balanced unit roster people accuse them of laziness and not putting in enough units.

I would like a few more units for some factions, but mostly they haven't done a bad job. The rosters aren't 'bad' per se, they could just use a little expansion.

Out of interest do you have any ideas for units they could add to say, France or Britain? (This is a genuine question btw, I wondered what they might have missed).

They've already got plenty of ahistorical units. Once again, I feel compelled to mention the GRENADE LAUNCHERS
(And double-barreled musket using Grenzers. And air rifle snipers.)

But, IMO, the British have their roster just right in terms of size. The problem is it seems CA put a lot less effort into most of the other factions. Russia, France and the Ottomans/Marathas seem to have gotten a good amount of units, but it seems the UK is the faction that gets the fancy late-period elite units (Coldstream guards vs. Cossacks, hmmmm)

[knoddy]

CA really can't seem to win can they? If they add in lots of different units to add variety they are accused of making up unhistorical fantasy units, and ruining balance. If they give each faction a historically accurate and balanced unit roster people accuse them of laziness and not putting in enough units.

I would like a few more units for some factions, but mostly they haven't done a bad job. The rosters aren't 'bad' per se, they could just use a little expansion.

Out of interest do you have any ideas for units they could add to say, France or Britain? (This is a genuine question btw, I wondered what they might have missed).

indeed, u can never please everyone but oh well were happy and thats wot matters :D

[Graphic]

Except that most of these units are just generic units with a french name, to make them sound unique. Read the descriptions. Except for a few of them, they all have generic descriptions.
The only one I can think of that actually has a proper description and isn't a generic unit with a french name is the Maison du Roi. And well, too bad, but the Maison du Roi wasn't a single elite squad, but a military administration that basically was in charge of all bodyguard and royal units, such as the Gardes Suisses, the Gendarmes, the Mousquetaires and half a dozen others.

So yeah, the french roster is bad. One or two ahistorical faction specific units? Wow.
Now, overall, most factions have poor rosters, and the french one at least sounds original thanks to the french names, but overall, ETW is disappointing in that regard.

I knew you were going to respond with this.

The fact of the matter is, it's the 1700's. You got guys with muskets, guys with pikes, and a few different types of cavalry, and they all wear similar uniforms in Europe. Unique names, unique stats...what else more do you want? The French roster is filled to the brim with unique units, who cares if the descriptions are generic? How varied can the descriptions be between the factions for guys with muskets who you're supposed to form a long front line with?

[Sheogorath]

I knew you were going to respond with this.

The fact of the matter is, it's the 1700's. You got guys with muskets, guys with pikes, and a few different types of cavalry, and they all wear similar uniforms in Europe. Unique names, unique stats...what else more do you want? The French roster is filled to the brim with unique units, who cares if the descriptions are generic? How varied can the descriptions be between the factions for guys with muskets who you're supposed to form a long front line with?

Look at the British roster. Something like that.

[Graphic]

Yeah? I never denied that GB's roster is the most varied and that there's always room for more. That doesn't mean France's roster is "severely lacking."

[Sheogorath]

Yeah? I never denied that GB's roster is the most varied and that there's always room for more. That doesn't mean France's roster is "severely lacking."

I dont deny that the FRENCH roster is rather varied, however, many OTHER nations are pretty much generic, and could use some fancy units. Look at poor Spain. They get a couple of skirmisher units, as I recall.
Would it REALLY be that much trouble too look up some famous regiment/organization from each nations history and throw it on the roster? They certainly did with the UK.
[/shrug]

I suppose that's the reason I proposed a mod 'fix' for this stuff. I guess it's really just a matter of opinion.