The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

That won't be an actual brass pair until after midnight when the lynch is nearly at hand. I remember when I was mafia in Prometheus, I left the vote looking rather uncomfortable for myself for quite some time.

The end tally, and the behavior between now and then, is most interesting to see.

[GeneralHankerchief]

No we don't. You pulled the 99% figure out of your hat, there's no harm in looking for connections between people and role names are revealed upon death.

If the town banks on the happy conclusion that everybody on the "lynch list" is mafia and bases further lynches off that, we get screwed. Surely you remember Lord Winter from GF3.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If the town banks on the happy conclusion that everybody on the "lynch list" is mafia and bases further lynches off that, we get screwed. Surely you remember Lord Winter from GF3.

GF3, where roles weren't revealed upon death?


VV Tevash voted to save beefy. If we'd lynched tevash and found him to be guilty, shouldn't we have then lynched beefy? Your criticizing the possibility of being wrong in a situation where being wrong has no extra baggage. They were both on the lynching block already.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think we're talking about two different things. My main point was don't assume that both people that refuse to switch their votes are mafia partners.

[Greyblades]

The end tally, and the behavior between now and then, is most interesting to see.

Great, now you've scared everyone away. :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Let's talk about your guilt, greyblades.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Names revealed don't necessarily equate to roles. Aside from Oswald, every named role has been Irish and indistinguishable aside from a few little clues given by pever. And these clues will probably be a lot less in lynch scenes than they will in kill scenes (although this is speculation because we haven't had this scenario come up yet).

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe that all named characters have roles. Can anyone give evidence refuting that? I believe it's actually in one of pever's posts. Let me check.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I meant that if a person has a name it doesn't say what kind of role they have. Yes, there's been hints, but we can't be certain by any means.

[A Very Super Market]

He mentioned that townies don't get role PMs. That means that all roles HAVE to have names, probably limited by the play.

Oswald is clearly English, and he killed me. If pevergreen WOG'd a mafia, he would tell us, right?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Townies do not receive PMs, however, not all roles have been assigned. I am still waiting on the Godfathers choices. After that, I still have to assign the remaining roles, then I can begin.

Every person with a role has a name. In any kill writeups or lynches, if a player with a name features in them, their in game name will be used. (eg, If my name is Bob and I kill Beefy, the write up would say that Bob stalked beefy and killed him.)

Just saw your post, GH. I think it is still fair to say that everyone with a name should be dead before the end of the game, to be on the safe side, yes?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, sure, but the problem is we don't know who exactly has a named role. I'm sure that Oswald isn't going to reveal himself and throw himself on the mercy of the town.

[LittleGrizzly]

I don't nessecarily object to a pro town role finishing the game with us... but saying that...

named character = probably bad news

[Askthepizzaguy]

If there is an investigator, they can detect people with names. Then we can lynch them before the game is over. Obviously saving the investigator for last, keeping track of how many names have died.

[Greyblades]

Let's talk about your guilt, greyblades.

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions. Something that is actually defendable from instead of "Intuition".

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions.

That sounds a lot like me in Capo II. I was guilty.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions.

If you had to pick two people as your henchmen who would you pick? And would you be Irish or British?

[Greyblades]

I am a little peeved at all the "hunches", "intuition" and "spidey sensing"(Thank you El Diablo) that I have been receiving over my last 4 games. I think Psychonaut did it to me twice for pete's sake.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I attempt to always have valid reasons for voting for someone, as a sign of respect. If I don't have a case to make, then the lynch is random. IRL, If the police had a vague intuition that someone were guilty, but no evidence, I think they wouldn't be able to arrest them. I get voted all the time on little or no evidence, and I shrug it off. However, I've seen right here in this thread, reasonless voting seems to be an effective pressure tactic. And mafia games aren't meant to have due process and fair trials for the scum. And since there is little evidence to go on, this is what we have to do to win.

[LittleGrizzly]

It maybethe things you say... i remember a few players earlier weren't sure about you because of some throw away comment, its best to keep them to a minimum, silly throwaway comments that is.... ive been lynched for a few myself...

If you do keep getting in these situations then the name will echo through some people's minds as someone behaving scummy... without a better option these people will then vote for you...

Also this being the 2nd incident now in this game people will start thinking its too much of a coincidence... im starting to think this...

Also angry defense makes some people suspicious...

[Greyblades]

I know the reasoning and I know its a valid tactic, but knowing that doesnt make it any less annoying.

I think the irony is that I seem to be suspect No.1 and I havent been mafia in a single game yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It maybethe things you say... i remember a few players earlier weren't sure about you because of some throw away comment, its best to keep them to a minimum, silly throwaway comments that is.... ive been lynched for a few myself...

If you do keep getting in these situations then the name will echo through some people's minds as someone behaving scummy... without a better option these people will then vote for you...

Also this being the 2nd incident now in this game people will start thinking its too much of a coincidence... im starting to think this...

Also angry defense makes some people suspicious...

I'm not accusing you, but I find it hilarious that in a post about silly reasons people get voted, you use tons of ellipses. This is one thing I accused TevashSzat of overdoing in Godfather III, and he was mafia. And even though it was a throwaway accusation no one in their right mind could make hay out of, Tevash got so nervous he addressed this silly point in an overdefensive fashion, and even continued to use the excessive ellipses to prove it was normal.

Let's see about those ellipses...

[LittleGrizzly]

I think you'll find almost everyone of my posts contain ellipses

Mafia or backroom stuff... or even the footy thread... i like my set of 3 ellipses...

Infact my last post before the one you quoted contains two sets of three ellipses...

Ohh... wait a second...

You were just laughing at he irony of it rather than accusing...

Ignore my addressing of this silly point in an over defensive fashion

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That was just a throwaway comment, actually...why did you say "stop bothering me" though? I don't think I have been bothering you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

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He liked to drink alcohol everyday. Jolt was at bar called Mcdoogals, getting drunk. There was another man who came in to the bar... This man had a perculiar walk, as if he had been shot in the leg once. The man sat at the bar and said hello. Jolt looked at him and said hello... and the man who came in said what are you having. Jolt said Whiskey, of course... My name is Brendan, what's yours? Jolt said they call me Jimmy McJolty I am a loyal Irishman and you? Brendan said I am loyal to my convictions. I fight for the rights of all good Irishmen, and you just sit back and let the english take from us. And he took a bottle and shattered it. then he shoved the sharp glass in to Jolts neck. The men fought like all irish do, but Jolt lost too much blood and died in bar. Then Brendan stood over Jolt who was dying and said Its not personal its just buisness. I think youre a good man but this town would never lynch you. Brendan left his card, and on it said Three Blind Mice.

Donney went to Mcdoogals and ordered a pint. He was wearing green for the holiday.Then Brendan came into the bar and said hello. Seamus looked at him with suspicion... but Brendan just smiled back. What is your name Brendan asked. Donney said they call me Seamus Fermanagh and why is it any busness of yours? Brendan said I am looking to recruit loyal irishmen, can I count on your support? And Seamus said no... I have nothing to do with terrorists. Just then Mairead shot Donney in the arm.

"Agggh, what'd you do that for, ya daughter of a whore loving drunk?"

Donney decided to leave Mcdoogals right then and there, and make sure he got patched up. Brendan just looked around sadly, and decided to leave his card anyway, but now it said Two Blind Mice.

Checking the summary thread, posts 5 and 7, we see that someone else uses excessive ellipses. The trouble is, pevergreen also uses tons of ellipses, as do lots of people here. A search of ctrl+f and "..." leads to all the people who overuse ellipses. It's doubly interesting you're doing it again, intentionally, just as TevashSzat did, to prove it's normal for you. However, it is admittedly a ridiculous case. At least it's better than random voting.

I'm looking to see just how common this is. I don't have a whole lot else to do for the next 20 minutes. Then it's the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and I'm not missing that.

[Greyblades]

That was just a throwaway comment, actually...why did you say "stop bothering me" though? I don't think I have been bothering you?

Hmm am i allowed to do this? I'll assume I can due to it not actually hinting at anyones role.

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Casual comment I dont think.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You're right I have been bothering you

edit: my url avatar is mean...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think your regular avatar is more frightening, but then again, I'm not one to talk.

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Wait, I am one to talk. let me rephrase that...

I am not even a quarter of the way through the thread, and already I counted 6 players overusing ellipses and several more who use them like candy, but not to a point of really overusing them. As such, it's a bad lead. That was 20 wasted minutes.

Time for Jon Stewart. I'm out. Peace out, homies.


EDIT: Jon Stewart works 4 days a week and has like 6 or 8 weeks of vacation a year... why is tonight's episode a repeat???

[A Very Super Market]

What is that thing anyways?

I would think that overusing ellipses would be less obvious than say... (Bugger. I do that!) regular grammar mistakes? I mean, I think I could narrow down the list of suspects simply through checking how coherent the dialogue is, although one could also easily fake it.

Bah, I've gotten nowhere.

[Greyblades]

...There is no tried and true 100% method of getting a Mafioso is there?

Im guessing its a no?