The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do we have a protector who can guard him? Or is Mairead just your defender?

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Ituralde

Need to put my money where my mouth is. Still looking at Sasaki and LittleGrizzly, if Sasaki turns up innocent.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Do we have a protector who can guard him? Or is Mairead just your defender?

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Ituralde

Need to put my money where my mouth is. Still looking at Sasaki and LittleGrizzly, if Sasaki turns up innocent.

My role contains no automatic defense system -- which is why I publicly thanked "her."

'khaan: thanks for that!


EDIT: Tally =

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Ituralde = 8 (Andres, 'pizza', El D, GH, Grey, Reenk, Seamus, W_E)
Sasaki = 4 (Boudica, Diana, Grizz, 'khaan)
LittleGrizzly = 1 (Sasaki)
Boudica = 1 (FactionHeir)

Pizza: please use this as a double check, I'm vote recording as I go; THank's za-man!

[LittleGrizzly]

My response to sasaki...

Apparently all the bold hurt some fragile things eyes...

So its in spoilers...

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lack of commitment on ares by LG.

I was asking the question and giving out what i thought were the 2 possibilities..

First thing, you can see that LG was only mentioned in passing here. By far the main focus was on yoyo and ares, neither of whom I particularly suspected.

So why would I jump on it and get defensive if i am mafia... the idea that padriac was the mafia boss did not come from me... and i have explained my reasons for thinking he is ira already...

No, it's a direct contradiction of what you just claimed.

Im not saying ATPGood was some great lynch everyone else needed to join... i just figured it was better than lynching ATPG for tradition or Reenk for behaving like Reenk... at least if we try to look for something we may find it...

Look at the posts from this day. Meaningless votes, no real comment on the major case of the day, a post saying "I dunno" and asking if anyone has any ideas?

I made only one vote which demanded looking for something rather than just joining the easy bandwagons, i did comment on the major case of the day... i criticised them!

I don't see whats wrong with asking for ideas... im not a great player as a townie so i need some guidance to a certain extent... (preferably by a variety of players to help me through)

Claiming that "so-and-so" is not a bad a lynch is a classic move for mafia who want to look innocent.

I'd much rather blend with the crowd as mafia then try to come up with a half decent alternative to lynches i thought were crap

The idea being, mafia wouldn't care if a atpg or reenk was lynched, so if you protest it you're more townie. Actually, mafia would want atpg and reenk to survive till endgame.

Godfather 3... Reenk surviving innocent...

I wouldn't be so bothered about the town going for easy lynches on day 1... its a bit hard to try and guide the on day 1 and im not the most persusive typer either...

Seamus accused you as well

Seamus wrote 3 lines on the matter and didn't vote for me...

and not long ago in the settlement I went whole hog after TinCow and you were the one who warned me off him.

I don't really see what this has to do with anything but yes you accused an innocent player i had investigated... so i told you he was innocent... excellent proof of my pro town values...

This is a game where if you have a role, it is revealed after death. Khaan just came off of being detective in GF3, where we went over and over his poem with a fine toothed comb, looking for hidden clues. I even tried anagrams of capital letters, lol. So if he was the detective and hinting at my guilt, he would have been a lot more subtle than voting me three times in the first round and doing nothing else.

So you couldn't decipher clues from 'khaan last time he was detective... maybe he lernt from this...

TBH i haven't got a set behaviour of 'khaan as detective that i can remember and compare with...

Originally Posted by LG
Anyone else think possibly 'khaan could be hinting at us... ?

This was my post... it says nothing about 'khaan being detective

And even if he wasn't, as detective he wouldn't keep pushing it...he would either claim and ask for maireads protection, or post normally so that he didn't stand out so much.

He could be in contact with the detective, he could have some information hes trying to pass on... i didn't say heres the solid evidence for a sasaki lynch... i asked a question

This to me, is you grasping at another reason to justify a revenge vote.

Wasn't really part of my case... i was curious about peoples opinion on it...

In summary: LittleGrizzly hasn't been posting in his townie style this game.

What because im making an effort and i dont want to get lynched ?

Am i really that bad atownie usually...

His claimed townie behavior is a common mafia ploy

So if claimed townie behaviour is common mafia ploy what kind of behaviour should townies claim ?

he defensively overreacted to my suggestion that it was possible that he was dropping or picking up on mafia hints

I felt it was wrong... so it needed to be put right...

and he is being inconsistent

What ? Rubbish!

ignoring things he knows to be true, and grasping at straws to justify his revenge vote on me

More rubbish!

which despite all that he still tries to indicate he is not attached to:

Im not saying its an iron clad case but your behaviour is making me want to keep it there..

I believe LittleGrizz is the lynch for today.

I believe Sasaki is the lynch for today...

I'll vote for LittleGrizzly next round. If you're playing me, you're doing an excellent job. In spite of all reasons to the contrary, I actually trust you.

I am going to regret this, I just know it.

You will regret it!!

Lynch me by all means... it will be the proof of the sasaki case!

I have always insulted this as townie behaviour... but if i can confirm sasaki's guilt with my death then so be it...

Unvote Sasaki
Vote LittleGrizzly

[Askthepizzaguy]

Blarg! So much bold hurts my eyes, please spoiler it.

LittleGrizzly, you're not even close to dying this round, and if you believe Sasaki is guilty, you will have supporters on it maybe next round. Don't remove your vote from him and put it on yourself. That kind of tactic is okay, I think, at the beginning of the game when we have no suspects and don't know who the pro-town roles are. I think we know who the pro-town roles are now, and Sasaki isn't one of them, and if you're not mafia, you shouldn't be voting for yourself. Ironic that I am the one to say this.

If you were to be lynched, you wouldn't need your own vote on it to make that happen. It's the middlegame now, we need to tighten up. And the self-lynch tactic is also ineffective on a round where there is zero chance of your lynch.

Ituralde = 8 (Andres, 'pizza', El D, GH, Grey, Reenk, Seamus, W_E)
Sasaki = 3 (Boudica, Diana, 'khaan)
LittleGrizzly = 2 (Sasaki, Grizzly)
Boudica = 1 (FactionHeir)

[LittleGrizzly]

Ok i guess so...

Unvote
Vote Sasaki

[White_eyes:D]

Ok i guess so...

Unvote
Vote Sasaki

Why are you trying so hard to save Ituralde???(Is he your Godfather???)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Muchos Gracias Papa Bear.

[LittleGrizzly]

Why are you trying so hard to save Ituralde???(Is he your Godfather???)

You'll have to point out my frantic pleas for everyone to vote for sasaki... i can't seem to locate them and wonder if they exsist at all

By all means continue with you Ituralde lynch, a sasaki lynch doesn't seem to be a threat to his lynching...