memories

[Lemur]

True story: When I was working in Chicago, I would drive past a large synagogue every day. For one week they had a big sign up that read: "Never again is now." Unfortunately for the congregation, there are two ways to read that sentence ....

[Hooahguy]

True story: When I was working in Chicago, I would drive past a large synagogue every day. For one week they had a big sign up that read: "Never again is now." Unfortunately for the congregation, there are two ways to read that sentence ....

i dont get it.

[Don Corleone]

i dont get it.

It all depends on what we collectively do.

"Never again is right now" can mean that it stops, from this moment, forever more.

or, it can mean that it will happen again, right now.

[Hooahguy]

ah. now i get it.

[Hax]

Let us all draw lessons from this horrible thing: let us, as the human race raise ourselves from such things as racism, antisemitism and fascism.

[Hooahguy]

with such being said, we must now fight to end not only denial of the Holocaust, but also racism and we must raise awareness for the other genocides that are going on, like in Dafur.
has everyone here seen "Freedom Writers"? great movie and i recommend it.

[Hax]

with such being said, we must now fight to end not only denial of the Holocaust, but also racism and we must raise awareness for the other genocides that are going on, like in Dafur.
has everyone here seen "Freedom Writers"? great movie and i recommend it.

Nevermind genocides; religious or ethnic intolerance should be stopped altogether; whether you are Islamic, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, black, white, Asian, people should try to tolerate eachother. We all live on the same planet

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The first verse of the "Dachaulied," the Dachau song (J. Soyfer & H. Zipper):

Stacheldraht, mit Tod geladen,
ist um unsre Welt gespannt.
Drauf ein Himmel ohne Gnaden
sendet Frost und Sonnenbrand.
Fern von uns sind alle Freuden,
fern die Heimat, fern die Fraun,
wenn wir stumm zur Arbeit schreiten,
Tausende im Morgengraun.
Doch wir haben die Losung von Dachau gelernt
und wurden stahlhart dabei:
Sei ein Mann, Kamerad,
bleib ein Mensch, Kamerad,
mach ganze Arbeit, pack an, Kamerad,
denn Arbeit, Arbeit macht frei!

Barbed wire, loaded with death
is drawn around our world.
Above a sky without mercy
sends frost and sunburn.
Far from us are all joys,
far away our home, far away our wives,
when we march to work in silence
thousands of us at the break of day.
But we have learned the motto of Dachau
and it made us as hard as steel:
Be a man, mate,
stay a man, mate,
do a good job, get to it, mate,
for work, work makes you free!


Most Germans were not and are not monsters. Most people are not monsters, make decent neighbors, and worry about their families and getting through the week -- just like you. In each of us lurks, however, the potential for evil. We must not forget this, and we must never rest in seeking to curtail that potential.

My prayers for all those victims of the Holacaust, for all those who a haunted by it to this day, and for all those who suffer in the continuing eddies washing out from this moment of evil.

[Brenus]

Remember the crime and honour the ones who fight against it.

Yes, Nazism was rooted in a more "common" ant-semitism, in a basic level racism against all what is out-normatives, as Gypsies, homo-sexuals, retarded or others differences, in skins, religions and ideas.
But not all the population fall for it.
Even in Germany, Hitler did need a coup to take full power.

Never again is difficult.
If it happened far, if it concerend others continents, if it affect populations we can't link with, well it happens.

However, the Hollocaust, as a extermination process towards mainly the Jews, but aswell towards the Gysies and the Slavic populations, was a precedent and a specific process.
The industrialisation of the process, the Taylorisation (in term of process), the planification are very specific to it.

Long years ago, as a soldier, I went to a ceremony in France to commemorate the liberation of a concentration camp in France, the Struthof. It was a "small" camp, built to garentee the obedience of the Alsacians who were deserting in mass, and as well to liquidate the usual enemies of the Reich.
It was breath taking. To see the reality, to see the walls, the baracks and the gaz chambers and the landscape was a shock.
I had the same kind when I visited Oradour sur Glane, a village kept how the 2nd SS Division Das Reich left it.
To touch the reality of evil is something we have to do.

Remember that the men and women who did it were humans. So it can happened again.
Remember that the women and men who resisted it were humans. So it can be done again.

[Lemur]

Never again is difficult.

I would say it's impossible, given how human beings are. Genocide will be with us for a long, long time. Not trying to be a downer, but I don't see any evidence that we have the will, the tools or the guts to stop every round of ethnic cleansing that takes place. Note the world's overwhelming passivity in Darfur. Note the ease with which Rwandans drove out U.N. peacekeepers so that they could reach the full flower of Hutu Power.

I'm sorry, but "never again" is a slogan, nothing more. I'm glad people think about genocide, and I'm happy so many want to see it ended. But it ain't gonna be in my lifetime, and probably not in my son's.