AI aggression

[Dayve]

I can't really say if they make peace or not yet because i'm only up to 1705, but their agressiveness definitely has more of an oomph.

In the game i'm playing right now i've seen Austria dismantle the Ottoman empire in Greece, Prussia tear into Poland's western territory, and i'm currently trying to save the 13 colonies from extinction, with the French moving and taking land in the north, the Iroquois from the west, and Cherokee laying siege to a city in the south. But i don't have any money to give and it's too dangerous to send troops by sea because everytime i try to reinforce my navy from Britain the French sink it.

An army is slowly making it's way from Rupert's Land to help them, which leaves Rupert's Land hardly defended against the Huron, and now the AI actually ferry troops around i can't leave Britain undefended incase France or Sweden land soldiers on it.

My empire's a mess...

[knoddy]

I can't really say if they make peace or not yet because i'm only up to 1705, but their agressiveness definitely has more of an oomph.

In the game i'm playing right now i've seen Austria dismantle the Ottoman empire in Greece, Prussia tear into Poland's western territory, and i'm currently trying to save the 13 colonies from extinction, with the French moving and taking land in the north, the Iroquois from the west, and Cherokee laying siege to a city in the south. But i don't have any money to give and it's too dangerous to send troops by sea because everytime i try to reinforce my navy from Britain the French sink it.

An army is slowly making it's way from Rupert's Land to help them, which leaves Rupert's Land hardly defended against the Huron, and now the AI actually ferry troops around i can't leave Britain undefended incase France or Sweden land soldiers on it.

My empire's a mess...

this sounds good and the way it should be to be honest :D

im glad the russian full stacks are finally taking ottoman provinces in my game, the ottoman towns in greece were barely defended and i was sick of russian full stacks sitting in my provinces doing nothing.


edit: the marthrans are smashing the mughals in india, fleets are actually fighting there are battles everywhere BIG BIG improvement on the game imo

great patch :D

[anweRU]

tedit: the marthrans are smashing the mughals in india, fleets are actually fighting there are battles everywhere BIG BIG improvement on the game imo

The Maratha-Mughal wars were always very active in my games. I don't think this patch did anything to change that.

[stufer]

Got to say that this all sounds very encouraging. Can't wait to try it out tonight.

If they will only make peace too, then I'll be a happy man!

Cheers.

[Slaists]

Got to say that this all sounds very encouraging. Can't wait to try it out tonight.

If they will only make peace too, then I'll be a happy man!

Cheers.

Nope, they don't make peace (with each other) yet. Supposedly that's being worked on.

[stufer]

Oh that's shame. Still, I'm sure they'll get round to it sooner or later. There'll be plenty to try out tonight anyway.

Thanks for your reply, Slaists.

Stu.

[knoddy]

The Maratha-Mughal wars were always very active in my games. I don't think this patch did anything to change that.

its interesting to note the differences in peoples gameplay experiences. out of several campaigns myself and my housemates played. we noticed the ai doing almost nothing to itself, gone are the days of fighting 20 full stacks of alomohads who own half the world.

in all my camps and my housemates, mughal/marthras war is always nothing, they stay at war whole game and at the end they still have the same territories.

same with russia ottomans. NOW however post patch, russia is crushing ottomans and marthras is smashing mughal.

But hey thats just my experience with the patch :)

[Khorak]

I just loaded an in-progress game, to provide myself with the best comparison.

YES, the computer goes freaking mental. The game was 1755, and the games fighting consisted only and entirely of Prussia absorbing Austria and the Maratha smashing their rivals. The very first turn with the patch caused Morrocco to gather together all its many fleets (also freeing up the Gibratar Straight, yay!), declared war on me and threw about fifty light galleys at my four heavy first rates.....sure they lost horribly, but it was impressive that they did it! They'd obviously been annoyed about the enormous British garrison I had in Gibratar and tried to do something about it. Oh is that a land bridge arrow? OM NOM NOM. That'll learn you.

Subsequent turns saw the Maratha I'd been easily chewing through aggressively moving their armies around to attack when they could or just reposition to protect the closest city to one of my two marauding stacks o' doom. They also lost horribly, but actually irritated me instead of being placid little victims for me, so they're definitely working harder at it now. It was pretty obvious that the number of turns it took France to take Savoy was marching time, freed from the shackles of crap AI they went right on over there and SQUASHED 'em! Fifty damn years that took!

Overall the fleets were consolidated and the AI started trying to murder damn near everything.

[FactionHeir]

I'm interested in whether:
A. the AI now moves across the wilderness to attack (Inuit, Huron's North Western Territory, Plains Nations, also Russia and Persia to the east of the black sea to some extent).
B. With this increase in aggressiveness, do they betray alliances even more often now? In the previous version (or rather, current for me because I'm waiting for feedback), once I was at peace with most people, my allies (very friendly) would start betraying me if they neighbored my provinces. And that is rather silly especially if I'm the biggest nation on earth.
C. Does Territorial expansion in terms of diplomacy actually decrease over time? And do certain nations (Ottomans, Indian factions, some Southern and Eastern European minors) still ignore that factor completely (unless you hit their lands) or do they care as much as the other factions now?

[TinCow]

Before the patch, I played a VH/VH UP campaign. It was pretty much a cakewalk. I am now about 10 turns into a post-patch VH/VH UP campaign, and I'm fighting for my life. I just saved and exited at the start of a major battle (I am outnumbered 1500 to 2100) with Westphalia that, if I lose, will likely be my destruction. I won't comment on whether it is balanced or fair, but this is the first time I have ever felt challenged by a TW single-player campaign. For that alone, this patch makes me very happy.

[seireikhaan]

I'm interested in whether:
A. the AI now moves across the wilderness to attack (Inuit, Huron's North Western Territory, Plains Nations, also Russia and Persia to the east of the black sea to some extent).
B. With this increase in aggressiveness, do they betray alliances even more often now? In the previous version (or rather, current for me because I'm waiting for feedback), once I was at peace with most people, my allies (very friendly) would start betraying me if they neighbored my provinces. And that is rather silly especially if I'm the biggest nation on earth.
C. Does Territorial expansion in terms of diplomacy actually decrease over time? And do certain nations (Ottomans, Indian factions, some Southern and Eastern European minors) still ignore that factor completely (unless you hit their lands) or do they care as much as the other factions now?

I can only speak to B), but as Sweden, I had Russia declare war on me two turns after they'd accepted a peace treaty with me to end the last war. Granted, that was a pretty short war, and there were few casualties on either side, and ended with only one province changing hands, but still...