New Macedonia?

**Watchman** · 06-01-2009, 18:16

Bah. Wimpy Hellens can't even shoot straight or take a little stink. (Though, didn't the horse nomads generally wash with horse urine ? Hygienic enough, if kinda pungent...)

**johnhughthom** · 06-01-2009, 18:22

Why do you Greeks need such loooong spears? Are you trying to compensate for something? Real men fight on horseback, with arrows flying through the air and death could come at any moment, from any angle. With your Greek "pushy, pushy" matches you push a bit, get tired, push a bit, then go home because everybody get's bored.

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 06-01-2009, 18:35

Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Why do you Greeks need such loooong spears? Are you trying to compensate for something? Real men fight on horseback, with arrows flying through the air and death could come at any moment, from any angle. With your Greek "pushy, pushy" matches you push a bit, get tired, push a bit, then go home because everybody get's bored.

LOL!

**Zradha Pahlavan** · 06-01-2009, 19:18

Let me not open my moth about you filthy nomads. Ever heard that the Scythians bathes every 8 months or so? HA! Probably the same for the rest of you. Plus, the bow is a weapon of pure cowards. Let us see you on foot with a proper spear or sword. See if you'll be able to do any harm or boast of yourself then Truth is, we'd probably die of asphyxia due to the sheer stink of your unwashed bodies.

You don't like it when we use bows? Fine! Let's see your horsemen take on ours, spear to spear. Oh, wait. You wouldn't like that, would you, since even the best Hellenic cavalry is nothing to the horsemen of the steppes. And that must be why you need to hide behind walls of phalangites.

And then there's the Romans. Those pompous, greedy, arrogant, wannabe-Hellenic fools have only gotten as far as they have because they stole the ideas of others.

Oh, and I almost forgot about the Celts and the Sweboz and whatever else they call themselves. Clearly they are insignificant, or I would have remembered. But they are almost as filthy and as obnoxious and as barbaric as the Hellenes, almost.

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 06-01-2009, 19:25

Only the mighty Germanikoi wash themselves everyday, that's why they invented the soap. You others better keep silent.

Try shooting your arrows in our forests, Nomads! We'll hide in the trees and jump on you like a nightmare from hell when you don't expect it.

**Andy1984** · 06-01-2009, 20:23

I'm fairly sure the reason why these sweboz-I-feel-cool-naked-and-drunk-guys never got conquered in the first place is the complete lack of human behaviour.

'Hiding in trees'. How low can you go?

**Alsatia** · 06-01-2009, 22:21

Ther germans, persians and internal disputes smashed the Romans in the end.

But the romans smashed Greece and Gaul and Carthage.

It is true the romans tried to copy greek warfare, but they changed their style because the formations were too rigid and were not suitable for the terrain and the enemy they were fighting against.

But Marian changed everything.

The greeks and the barbarians of gaul and germany were far from united, each at each other's throats. Then again, same for the roman politicians in the senate.

Originally Posted by Andy1984

I'm fairly sure the reason why these sweboz-I-feel-cool-naked-and-drunk-guys never got conquered in the first place is the complete lack of human behaviour.

'Hiding in trees'. How low can you go?

Actually, the romans did conquer germany but they lost control of it in AD9-11.

There is a bad side to everyone. No faction is perfect.

Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?