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    Default Re: The History Channel: From Hitler to Freemasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Le Prieuré de Sion peurhaps? But that's an ultra-Catholic lodge, plotting against the Judeo-Bolchevik plot#to destroy religion.

    However that may be, to quote Napoleon: c'est un tas d'imbéciles qui s'assemblent pour faire bonne chère et exécuter quelques folies ridicules.
    ('They are persons of limited intellect who gather for laffs and the execution of silly follies.')
    The Prieuré de Sion has never existed except in the imagination of the madman who wrote about it and claimed to be a member. Dan Brown can keep on writing amateurish books about it, it won't make it a historical truth.

    I'm talking about his ranks. I'm not an expert on Freemasonry, but among the many ranks of the French freemasonry (based on the Accepted Scottish Rite), I think a few use the word Sion. He was a member of the Grand Orient de France, which would hardly be an ultra-catholic lodge: it has been fighting the french Church more or less since the Revolution and had been labelled as the work of Satan by some Pope in the late 19th.

    I also disagree with Napoleon's statement. Of course, french freemasonry became a joke between 1799 and 1870, mostly because the Emperors and Kings who ruled during this era did their best to infiltrate freemasonry with their own men. Cambacérès and Louis Murat became unofficial leaders of the french freemasonry respectively during the 1st and 2nd Empire.
    Then, after 1870, freemasonry became a major political force in France (much more than it was in 1789, despite all the religious nutjobs claiming 1789 was the first step of a freemason plot). Most french public characters from the left and centre-left were member of one of the various lodges. The Radical Party and the Grand Orient de France were more or less the same thing. The socialist party was also strongly tied to freemasonry.
    Though I don't agree at all with any conspiracy theory, it's pretty much a given that most of the laws on which the french republic is based (laïcité, separation of the church and state, the universal aim to improve Man and Society through education) are the work of 3 or 4 important french lodges.


    Overall, claiming there's a vast freemason conspiracy is foolish. Each country has its own freemasonry (french freemasonry is deeply anti-religious, unlike British or American freemasonry). Some freemasons are catholics, some are protestants, some - as pointed out earlier - are jews, muslims, hindus or sikhs. Freemasonry is nowadays in Europe a lobby group with little power and a prestige that is slowly fading after each new scandal. Most of the freemasons I know (which is quite telling of the supposed secretive aspect of the group: many people keep bragging about their membership) are simply too stupid to be plotting to establish a New World Order tm.

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    Default Re: The History Channel: From Hitler to Freemasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    The Prieuré de Sion has never existed except in the imagination of the madman who wrote about it and claimed to be a member. Dan Brown can keep on writing amateurish books about it
    Oh, he will.

    There is a big cabal involving many societies such as freemasonry in others which would focus its power on creating a New World, usually dictated under totalaritarian principles and even then, these forces fight amongst themselves in trying to produce this aim. Basically, it is like the "Hidden War" as on the surface, the ignorance of many is that it simply does not exist while to others, it is the whole of their existence, on many levels.
    Right...

    I saw on the television that the Buddist lodge fights the ultra-Catholic Sions over control of Central Asian oil and pipelines. It says so in the Chartres Cathedral labyrinth. The Sion lodge got you real good when they blew up those Buddha's in Afghanistan together with the Kabul Muslim Cabal.
    Wait, there's some kind of underground religious war going on and I wasn't informed?!

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