The Black Country [Concluded]

[Death is yonder]

I got no better leads and I'll like to hear his input.

Since it appears that I won't be getting it, as seen by the edits from ATPG, I'll

Unvote; Captain Blackadder
Vote: Atheotes

Its possible that he forgot the game though, I've seen townies forget about games they were playing, like Minnesota Mafia.

I would argue that Blackadder hasn't been very active anywhere and is WOGbait whereas atheotes has posted plenty of places.

The WOGbait part depends on whether AVSM will WOG him or replace him.

I suppose logic would dictate that the person who has no excuse should die?]

Gah! Sorry ATPG, why do I take so long to type these things out.

[Saw through preview mode, I think I should use it more often... ]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now... what does this tell us?

If atheotes is mafia, the three of us most likely are not.
Since I'm attempting to clear Blackadder of guilt, I'm likely not mafia. Mafia want more suspects, not less.
The fact that the two of you are giving it some effort and not trying to lynch me even though I'm an easy target tells me you're probably not mafia.
Blackadder is likely not mafia due to the fact he couldn't have done it.
Tratorix still being alive is interesting... if he's still alive tomorrow we will know his reveal was fake in spite of apparently catching a criminal. However I'm still leaning innocent on him.

Assuming these things, which I admit aren't 100%,

pevergreen- hasn't posted here since the 18th. Voted for Captain Blackadder last. Active today
atheotes (lynch this round?)
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
Tratorix
Beefy187
AtPG
Death is Yonder


pevergreen is my next suspect, followed by Beefy.

It also seems to me that since this is a Godfather type game, Beefy and pevergreen would be obvious mafia partners. pever would choose beefy as a partner and vice versa. I don't detect any real attempt by pevergreen to help us win this game.


I would actually be leaning more towards pevergreen as being mafia.

unvote, vote: pevergreen


Either one sounds good to me. Atheotes for being a lurker, pevergreen for being a lurker. Atheotes has been mafia a lot lately and since this is a "choose your partner" game, he's higher risk for being lynched. Beefy is a good pick, as is pevergreen, because they have staying power.

[Death is yonder]

if he's still alive tomorrow we will know his reveal was fake in spite of apparently catching a criminal. However I'm still leaning innocent on him.

The main part I'm confused of is that there ARE still two kills!

Unless I'm wrong, Godfather's only get to kill when all their henchmen are dead, no?

Taka was clearly stated in the write ups to be a "master criminal", but the term also extends to other things, possibly he being an SK, it could be separated into two categories.

Either the supposed detective investigation consists of attaining information from his role pm or something, Eg: Whether he is a mafia/bad guy

Or the supposed detective investigation consists of attaining information of guiltiness based on whether the investigated person in question has killed before.

Beefy and pevergreen would be obvious mafia partners. pever would choose beefy as a partner and vice versa.

That is where the comes in.

Its either too obvious, or reverse psychology on their part.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There are a couple likely configurations.

Tratorix could be mafia, but seriously... Taka seemed to definitely be mafia, and Trat tossing him under the bus, and then Taka verbally retaliating, is a very clever ploy if they are both mafia. It does make Tratorix appear innocent. But Trat's detective claim was never fully countered.

If Tratorix is not mafia, then pevergreen seems a likely suspect. He voted for an easy lurker candidate who seems obviously not mafia, has been lurking, and not even attempting to help the town at all. I am not a merciful guy, if I'm going to lose as town I am going to take with me those people who helped cause the failure, such as lurkers and non-serious players. That's just how I roll. Best I get my hands bloody unleashing the wrath of Pizzaguy.

Beefy has been playing it cool, but he always does, town or mafia. And since he's put effort into the game, if he comes up as mafia I will say job well done.

I could still have it all wrong and pevergreen and beefy might not be mafia. It could be tratorix and atheotes. Who the heck knows. But I'd rather go with something that's at least an attempt at solving the game than someone who seems patently innocent, Blackadder, or one of you guys. If Death is Yonder or Johnhughthom are mafia, you guys deserve to win because there's hardly any other town activity. Not much I could do about it anyway.

Taka's finger of suspicion pointed towards Tratorix makes little sense if they were both mafia. They had enough manpower to skate all the way through the game without tossing one of their own overboard. In this game, the Godfather being killed off doesn't stop the mafia, according to the rules. So supposing Tratorix is mafia, he would still have zero motive to toss Taka overboard.

That's my best guesses. I can't do a whole lot without being a detective or something, except make educated guesses.

Now I will return you to your regularly scheduled incoherent babbling.

[atheotes]

to start, apologies for being inactive i couldn't spend much time during the weekend and lost track of the game... i did not want to post without reading through as there were role claims...

(ATPG, if you look at my other posts in the forum, none of them involve any thinking or reading)

Only now i finished reading through the whole thread...

My understanding so far:

the rules say there is a god father and henchmen involved... 3 mafia? that would mean we definitely have at least one protector and one investigator.
we also know we have people who can repair the factory.(we can confirm Diana atleast)


ATPG could be cannibal

I am surprised that there was no kill attempt on Tratorix or ATPG...
Tratorix said he had investigated taka on night1 and got a guilty result... what did you get the other 2 nights?
i dont like beefy's invalid votes on taka... but it would be too obvious.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I would be interested to know who Tratorix looked at last night, since he survived.

As for my role, I am a hermit who lives in a cave and is, to put it nicely, "mentally interesting". If you wish to have an innocent townie confirm my own innocence, ask Beskar. He had an ability which proved me innocent. I also have a power role function which you are just going to have to trust me on, because I cannot reveal it.

[Tratorix]

I would be interested to know who Tratorix looked at last night, since he survived.

I investigated Captain Blackadder. Seems an innocent townie to me. However, I'd just like to mention that my ability will not find the Godfather. I can't distinguish the Godfather from a normal townie, so the people I've "cleared" (CB, ATPG) are conclusively not mafia henchmen. Just thought I should clarify that in case of my death, however it comes.

As for me surviving, well it confuses me too. The mafia probably wants us to waste a lynch and was willing to risk another of their henchmen being found to get it. I'm assuming by taka's little attempt to throw suspicion on me that he was definitely mafia, no doubt about it. That's good, since it buys us more time before they would be able to outvote us. As for the mafia still having two kills, it's rather common in small games for the mafia to have a set amount of kills. Otherwise an early lynch in the towns favour would cripple them for the rest of the game.

I'll vote: pevergreen for now. I'd like to know why he hasn't been posting even though he's been active on the forums.

[Tratorix]

Per a request.

You quietly sneak into town hall, ducking one of the aides there, and start flipping through paperwork. You can't seem to find much for AtPG in there at all, until you look into the "locals" section. Within the 10 people you find in there, you quickly spot out AtPG's grotesque looks, and begin to check up on his history.

You don't find much, but he was from here, born and bred. He was arrested several times for lewdness, but nothing suspicious strikes you. You also notice that he has no registered home, and no job either. Clearly, he seems to a rather strange fellow.

[atheotes]

Vote: Pevergreen

i got to save myself and pever doesnt seem keen on participating...

[Beefy187]

So its follow ATPGs choice?

I have no problem with that. Its not like I suspect anyone at the moment..
Just a warning though. I think pever lynch is very very bad.. pever is not someone who would lurk when he gets a mafia role, I am almost 100 percent sure that pever is innocent.

Atheotes is a better choice here

Vote: Atheotes

[atheotes]

So its follow ATPGs choice?

I have no problem with that. Its not like I suspect anyone at the moment..
Just a warning though. I think pever lynch is very very bad.. pever is not someone who would lurk when he gets a mafia role, I am almost 100 percent sure that pever is innocent.

Atheotes is a better choice here

Vote: Atheotes

ATPG's vote is on pever...

would you care to explain why you think i am a better choice?

[Askthepizzaguy]

We need to decide, now. In the event of a tie, I'm pretty sure the mafia will just save themselves.

The fact that tratorix investigated Captain Blackadder sets off my questionable alarms. We already established due to his inactivity that he's probably innocent. However, it is too late for that stuff now.

I would go for pevergreen due to the fact that he's either a bad townie for not participating, or lurking mafia.

[Tratorix]

So its follow ATPGs choice?

I have no problem with that. Its not like I suspect anyone at the moment..
Just a warning though. I think pever lynch is very very bad.. pever is not someone who would lurk when he gets a mafia role, I am almost 100 percent sure that pever is innocent.

Atheotes is a better choice here

Vote: Atheotes

Then why hasn't he been participating? he's been active, he just hasn't been posting here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: atheotes

pever doesn't seem to care about the game at all. Perhaps he has no vested interest in it.

[pevergreen]

pevergreen bursts out of a coffin.

"Shoop shoop da woop, I was sleeping guys. Rickely dinkey dineky di!"

pevergreen continues his dance which somehow migrated from that other mafia game of Reenks from a while back

"We can dance if we want to, I left my friends behind. Because my friends wont dance, and if they don't dance, well their no friends of mine"

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: pevergreen

[Tratorix]

unvote, vote: pevergreen

I knew this was coming as soon as I saw his post.

[A Very Super Market]

It's a tie. Next vote decides who dies, between atheotes and pevergreen.

[atheotes]

can i vote?

[atheotes]

just in case vote:pevergreen

[Beefy187]

ATPG's vote is on pever...

would you care to explain why you think i am a better choice?

Because you have more then two votes on you, and your not pever.
Better reason would be because you didn't come and post until the pressure was on you. The reason aren't strong enough, but there doesn't seem to be a choice besides the two of you this round.

Then why hasn't he been participating? he's been active, he just hasn't been posting here.

Beats me. But I can confidently say that pever is almost never a lurking mafia.

[A Very Super Market]

Woe is me. I expected someone inactive to come, but it seems that only atheotes has come. How inane. The tie-breaker goes on, until I wake up tomorrow. If it's still a tie, I'll flip a bloody coin.

[pevergreen]

Vote: atheotes

[Death is yonder]

Next vote decides who dies, between atheotes and pevergreen.

I think we have our "winner"

Technically, pevergreen is dead now, Atheotes voted him clearly

just in case vote:pevergreen

Hence pever is lynched today.

Edit:

Woe is me. I expected someone inactive to come, but it seems that only atheotes has come. How inane. The tie-breaker goes on, until I wake up tomorrow. If it's still a tie, I'll flip a bloody coin.

Or not, nevermind.

[pevergreen]

Woe is me. I expected someone inactive to come, but it seems that only atheotes has come. How inane. The tie-breaker goes on, until I wake up tomorrow. If it's still a tie, I'll flip a bloody coin.

OOC: Obviously he means someone who hasnt voted/isnt voting for one of us, I havent voted, I vote ath, hes dead. Round over etc etc.

[A Very Super Market]

Yes. I thought of it as a 3 votes vs. 3 votes, and the balance needing to be changed. Anyways, I had a hard night, and I can't think of anything to write, so I'll spell it out clear as day.


atheotes was lynched, and he was a detective. AtPG tried to eat him again

Alive
pevergreen
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
Tratorix
Beefy187
AtPG
Death is Yonder


Bit it
White eyes :D
CDF
Yaropolk
Beskar
taka
Diana Abnoba
Iskander 3.1
atheotes

[Diana Abnoba]

@ AVSM you still have Taka in the alive players list.

[Diana Abnoba]

A detective, wow we're doing great. Atheotes can you give us your results, so the rest of the town may have a chance to get the mafia. Although it may already be too late, with only 7 players left.
BTW didn't Tratorix claim to be detective in this game, or am I getting it mixed up with another game. No, I don't think so...care to explain Tratorix.

[atheotes]

the town might have just lost this one... i was voted for lurking and that was my fault ... but after i explained John and DIY never came here to have a chance to change their votes. so it was easy for beefy and pever to get me lynched..

beefy is convinced that pever is innocent and he never responded to my query... it is very scummy
my choice for lynch was tratorix but had to vote pever to try to save myself... tratorix should be lynched next round though...

i am not sure if i can reveal results... the rules dont say anthing specific... i will wait for confirmation from AVSM.... anyways revealing during the night is counterproductive

[taka]

ghost vote: tratorix

reason