Roman Legion composition?

[Dutchhoplite]

There's already threads on Barbaropolis army compositions, try searching for them.

Your formations are not bad in terms of gameplay, though I think the composition and formation are more of a Late Roman variety.

At it again?? Tell me, what have you learned this week??

[Macilrille]

I am no fan of Sata, in fact he is on my ignore list, but he does not actually do anything wrong here except possibly calling Rome some silly byname... be fair.
He is actually not for once screaming, "burn Barbaropolis!", merely saying what many others do to those recurring "once-a-month-questions" that the answer is around in abundance if one searches for it- especially in the AAR and gameplay guides section.

Be fair, go for the ball, not the man. No need for personal persecution, Sata as well as others has a right to contribute usefully.

When pointing a finger at others, how many is it that points at yourself? Who is attacking someone now? Were we not meant to stop and behave in a restrained way (though it evades me that we ever left it)?

I will shut my gob now, for I am no angel myself. Just saying, give him a break when he actually behaves himself.

[satalexton]

QS's guide is extremely useful, though abit outdated.

Yes, even I find it useful How best to wipe them out Cannae style, for one.

[paramedicguyer]

I didn't make this thread, I was searching for somtehting like this thread, and this is wat I got.

I really don't want to listen to your petty personal fighting. I simply brough back a slightly older thread on a topic I wanted to talk about, I felt it would have been better than making anohter thread that others woul have to search for.

I always get excited when I see a reply on a thread to whic I just posted, and that feeling is always trashed when I have to see petty bickering.

[Aemilius Paulus]

At it again?? Tell me, what have you learned this week??

Well, I for one, agree with you. No matter how small a transgression is, it is a transgression. No Romaioiktonoi means no Romaioiktonoi, and not "no wasabi on Thursdays" or anything of that sort. You see, another thread is now derailed because of a single word.

People indeed, learn very little. But of course, punishment tends to speed up the learning process; you can tell a child all you want about the dangers of fire, but he/she will only learn once they got burned.

[A Very Super Market]

It wouldn't be that bad if you just ignored the "Barbaropolis" and read it as "Rome", would it? Overreacting tends to quicken derailment, doesn't it?

Wait a minute! Calling him out has effectively derailed the thread more than if you moved on! Aww, shucks.



When playing as the Romans, I immediately ditch the Equites. Wastes of mnai, those suckers. Campanians are more versatile, and since both aren't meant to charge, there's no sense in recruiting native Roman cavalry. The set-up tends to go like this.

3 Leves
3 Hastati
3 Principes
3 Triarii
3 Rorarii
2 Campanians
2 Accensi

And of course, the general. It's not terribly efficient, but the closest to historical I can get without resorting to those bloated aristocrats and their ponies.

[DaciaJC]

Could Pedites Extraordinarii fit anywhere? They are allies, no?

[paramedicguyer]

Could Pedites Extraordinarii fit anywhere? They are allies, no?

I've never really been a fan of "allied legions" in any sense. While they are interesting and spice up gameplay, I find that generally my factional troops are readily at hand and thus I have no need of allies (except for cavalry). I do make exceptions for the bruttian infantry, which i use as a replacement for hastati, but thats it. The main reason that I stay away from allies, is that the game engine just isnt designed to handle that sort of tactic. and as much as i'd like to roleplay, i always cop out for the bottom line. I want the most for my money and that generally leaves little room for allies and the lower class roman infantry

In this context I am refereing only to italy itself and to cammilan and polybian troops. Its a whole different ball game with imperials.

[johnhughthom]

Could Pedites Extraordinarii fit anywhere? They are allies, no?

As far as I am aware they were under the personal command of the Consul, assuming there was one of course, and so while technically allies they would not necessarily have had to fight with the alae.

[Atilius]

As far as I am aware they were under the personal command of the Consul, assuming there was one of course, and so while technically allies they would not necessarily have had to fight with the alae.

Concerning the pedites extraordinarii, I think this is speculation on that part of some authors. I know of no support in the ancient sources for that claim. Some of the equites extraordinarii (Polybios 6.31) were quartered near the Consul's volones in camp and may have therefore been under his immediate control on the battlefield.

Polybios states (6.40) that when an army is on the march, the extraordinarii form the vanguard if the enemy is ahead of them and the rearguard if the enemy is behind. This indicates that when formed for battle, the extraordinarii would be positioned on the extreme right of the formation.

[Aulus Caecina Severus]

My singleplayer legion for my romani campaign:

Note: max 10 slot for make available a powerful thing... Double legion full stack
I always leave cavalry in one army following main army legion.
When i m in enemy field i leave main army in a fort, and second army (cavalry) around or in one other fort.

Camillan Legion:
1 general
2 astati
2 principi
1 triari
2 leve
1 accensi
1 rorari

Polybian Legion:
1 general
3 astati polibiani
3 principi polibiani
1 triari polibiani
2 velites

Italic Allied Legion:
1 imperator italicus/general
5 fanti pesanti straordinari
4 ausiliari italici (ligures, samnites, bruttian, lucanian)

Marian Legion:
1 general
1 coorte miliaria pesante(aquila)
4 coorti pesanti
2 coorti leggere (ausiliari)
2 artillery or mercenary

Imperial Legion:
1 general
1 coorte miliaria imperiale pesante(aquila)
4 coorti imperiali pesanti
2 coorti leggere
2 arcieri saggitari siriani

Praetorian Legion:
1 general
5 coorti della guardia pretoriana
4 coorti veterane (evocate)

[paramedicguyer]

It wouldn't be that bad if you just ignored the "Barbaropolis" and read it as "Rome", would it? Overreacting tends to quicken derailment, doesn't it?

Wait a minute! Calling him out has effectively derailed the thread more than if you moved on! Aww, shucks.



When playing as the Romans, I immediately ditch the Equites. Wastes of mnai, those suckers. Campanians are more versatile, and since both aren't meant to charge, there's no sense in recruiting native Roman cavalry. The set-up tends to go like this.

3 Leves
3 Hastati
3 Principes
3 Triarii
3 Rorarii
2 Campanians
2 Accensi

And of course, the general. It's not terribly efficient, but the closest to historical I can get without resorting to those bloated aristocrats and their ponies.

what order do you place your leves rorarii and accensi, or do unot placed them in sequence. I actually like the idea of less cavalry. do u keep them just for mopping up or actually use them as a hammr

[A Very Super Market]

Romans don't need cavalry. And if they lose, there are always more men.

Roman cavalry isn't too great anyways. I wait for the auxiliaries before even attempting to use them.

I put the accensi at the front, anywhere else would be absurd. The rorarii are at the back with the Triarii, and the leves are placed directly in fron ot the hastati.

[TKaz84]

Equites Romani isn't a great unit, but I find that I still need some cavalry in order to act as a mobile reserve against enemy cavalry. As long as you use them in that role or to charge something in the back repeatedly, they do OK.

[Macilrille]

Ditching the Equites for Campanians is a good idea, I never thought of that. I like the Campanians and Ligurians.

[keiskander]

Wasnt a legion made up by ten cohorts 9 plus first cohort under marius and augustan reforms? If so why not count one cohors reformata as a "cohort" in the stack and build 9 reformata and one first cohort? Would that be a wrong set up for a legion in EB?