Describing One With His/Her Looks Abroad

**HoreTore** · 09-02-2009, 20:45

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Come on, wouldn't calling one "the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" make invitations for a brawl in most cases ?

No.

Only if I used it as an insult. If it's not an insult, where's the problem?

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Which is probably what got LEN in trouble, facebook comments have just the language.

Indeed. But that was my point, wasn't it? It wasn't the word itself that upset the guy, it was the meaning behind it. He saw a word that most of the time is hateful(or whatever), and of course he took it as a hateful comment, as he didn't know what LEN meant by it. But it was what LEN meant when he used the word that upset him, not the word itself(assuming he's not a mental patient). If he already knew that LEN meant nothing by it, that it was a friendly comment, of course he would take it as a friendly comment no matter what word he used.

For example: My sisters bf is an arab. The times I actually use his first name instead of some random racial slur(like the n-word, "blackie boy", terrorist, al qaida, etc etc) are few. But he knows what I mean, and he knows I'm a friend, so of course he takes it as what it is, a friendly joke, and a sign of acceptance. If some drunk idiot screams the same words at him at a pub, of course he's going to react differently, and rightfully so. Same word, different meaning. Hence the meaning behind the word is the problem, not the word itself.

**Vladimir** · 09-02-2009, 20:48

Originally Posted by HoreTore

No.

Only if I used it as an insult. If it's not an insult, where's the problem?

The perception of the individual.

**InsaneApache** · 09-03-2009, 13:15

Originally Posted by HoreTore

No.

Only if I used it as an insult. If it's not an insult, where's the problem?

I'm sorry but calling someone the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules is very offensive. My dad got into a bar brawl a couple of years back when some slopehead ex-pat called his wife the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules. He was 76 at the time. I wasn't sure if I was proud of him or ashamed that a septuagenarian would involve himself in fistycuffs. His wife joined in as well and she's pushing sixty.

**Strike For The South** · 09-03-2009, 16:00

If I ever called someone a "the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" I would expect to get punched and be thankful that I didn't get shot. And this is coming from a guy who enjoys putting down all shades of brown people.

That's just a word you don't use.

Anyone who thinks its just a word is either being obtuse or doesn't understand American history.

**Lemur** · 09-03-2009, 16:06

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

If I ever called someone a "the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" I would expect to get punched and be thankful that I didn't get shot. And this is coming from a guy who enjoys putting down all shades of brown people.

Actually, when I was living in Brooklyn, it seemed as though every teen called every other teen "the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules." Very confusing. There was a group of Puerto Rican kids whom I was friendly with, and they were about as black as a bar of ivory soap, but they'd be calling each other "my the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" and "hey the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" every minute of the day.

I asked my boss, who was a native New York hispanic, what that was all about, and he looked at me like I was insane. "Sure, it's a word you use for friends. I'd call you my the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules anytime."

I guess that was a compliment.

Words change, words evolve, and lemurs just get confused.

**Strike For The South** · 09-03-2009, 16:16

Originally Posted by Lemur

Actually, when I was living in Brooklyn, it seemed as though every teen called every other teen "the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules." Very confusing. There was a group of Puerto Rican kids whom I was friendly with, and they were about as black as a bar of ivory soap, but they'd be calling each other "my the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" and "hey the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules" every minute of the day.

I asked my boss, who was a native New York hispanic, what that was all about, and he looked at me like I was insane. "Sure, it's a word you use for friends. I'd call you my the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules anytime."

I guess that was a compliment.

Words change, words evolve, and lemurs just get confused.

the other n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules does not equal the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules. And even among black friends none of them have ever refered to me as the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules nor do the hispanics use the term.

If a non black uses the term the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules and he's being serious he usually gets luaghed at for trying to hard. Different strokes I guess.

**Banquo's Ghost** · 09-03-2009, 19:06

Gentlemen

Let me be very clear - as are the forum rules. These threads crop up from time to time and it is perfectly possible to discuss the topic without trotting out every racial insult one can think of in the perhaps mischievous hope the forum rules can be circumvented.

If it proves impossible to discuss this kind of topic without direct reference to offensive words, then the topic is best left to other web sites.

From this advice onwards, any further deployment of racially insulting language, however sly or innocent, will attract severe infraction points.

Thank you kindly.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 09-03-2009, 19:19

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Gentlemen

Let me be very clear - as are the forum rules. These threads crop up from time to time and it is perfectly possible to discuss the topic without trotting out every racial insult one can think of in the perhaps mischievous hope the forum rules can be circumvented.

If it proves impossible to discuss this kind of topic without direct reference to offensive words, then the topic is best left to other web sites.

From this advice onwards, any further deployment of racially insulting language, however sly or innocent, will attract severe infraction points.

Thank you kindly.

Does that mean I can't make Irish jokes about you trying to paint this thread green?

**HoreTore** · 09-03-2009, 21:46

Originally Posted by InsaneApache

I'm sorry but calling someone the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules is very offensive. My dad got into a bar brawl a couple of years back when some slopehead ex-pat called his wife the n-word that is not permitted by the forum rules. He was 76 at the time. I wasn't sure if I was proud of him or ashamed that a septuagenarian would involve himself in fistycuffs. His wife joined in as well and she's pushing sixty.

Yes, because it means hatred and racism almost every time. That is what people react to, the underlying hatred, that the speaker is trying to reduce them to something less.

However, is those who hear it know that's not the intention of the speaker, then there will be no problem, because there is no problem.