KOTF OOC Thread

[econ21]

My preference is to play the game as it is, otherwise there is a danger we turn from playing the AI to trying to "play" the GM to get good stuff for our characters. I don't see any basis for basing IC traits on RL actions. I can see traits for IC actions being ok - the swift to judge for Gaetan being a good example - but again would like to see them used rather sparingly. Unexpected rewards for startingly role-playing as opposed to things we script our role-playing to attain. I remember being infuriated by the high spawn of rebels in solo play of RTW, so presumably we should see some crop up naturally in game.

All that said, I would not be opposed to a more major GM created event. We were promised no more than one per 10 turns, so I figure we may see one within the next session unless things go pear shaped on their own.

I do sympathise with a governor's life potentially being dull - maybe some kind of rotation of duty could be organised? That's what I would like to see in the Order, if we ever get the numbers to carry it out. Or you could try to mix things up - holding a tournament in your town for example. I seem to remember some RL discussion about crusades being used as an outlet to rid of unemployed troublesome warriors - the idea is starting to look relevant to our game, IMO. It should not be long before a proper in-game crusade is a possibility.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Hugues stands with a prepared speech.

If the King quotes me, it is only fair that I quote his Majesty.

10 seasons ago the King addressed the Conseil concerning the English and war:

Seven years later, we were at war, declared by the King, not against the English, but the Germans. I guess we were ready for a war with the Empire, but not England. The King also said:

Would leaving the governing of the realm in the hands of others include declaring war against the Empire? Trying to cajole and then threaten the standing Seneschal into making an alliance with our sworn enemy? Or pressuring him into taking Caernarvon and Dublin, only to cast him aside when he failed to do exactly what his Majesty demanded of him? Why weren't any of these matters brought to the Conseil when it was in Session or after?

Having failed to govern the realm through an unwilling proxy and behind the back of the Conseil, the cycle begins again, yet this time dispensing with the proxy. We have an edict, 2.4, authorizing negotiations, but no specifics, no mention of an Alliance. In fact I doubt the King would even give us these crumbs without prodding. The Conseil has not been consulted on an offer of an Alliance. We have not been given the exact terms for the negotiations. Nor have we been asked about whether an Alliance with England, our old enemy, is wanted or advisable.

This election is about whether this Conseil is simply a rubber stamp or not. And if the Seneschal, the elected represenative of the Conseil, is only a Clerk or not. Are the Nobles of France to have any say in the affairs of the Kingdom? Do you want an independent Seneschal, or not one at all?

I ask for your vote, I ask for the Conseil to stand up for its rights, I ask you to take what is yours.

I also propose:

Edict 2.9: An alliance with England is authorized.

and

Edict 2.10: An alliance with England shall not be authorized, negotiated or accepted.

Our voice will be heard.

Not touching that.....

King might not like his authority questioned.... who is going to be brave and second it?

[OverKnight]

Hey, c'mon post, that's half the fun.

Much more inflammatory things have been said in a Senate/Diet/Magnaura session.

Edit: I might post my favorite "Speaking Truth to Power or Volunteering for Watchtower Duty" links later on.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

After my little stunts in WotB I am done questioning the all powerful monarch. It never ends well. for me anyway....

[Vladimir]

My preference is to play the game as it is, otherwise there is a danger we turn from playing the AI to trying to "play" the GM to get good stuff for our characters. I don't see any basis for basing IC traits on RL actions. I can see traits for IC actions being ok - the swift to judge for Gaetan being a good example - but again would like to see them used rather sparingly. Unexpected rewards for startingly role-playing as opposed to things we script our role-playing to attain. I remember being infuriated by the high spawn of rebels in solo play of RTW, so presumably we should see some crop up naturally in game.

All that said, I would not be opposed to a more major GM created event. We were promised no more than one per 10 turns, so I figure we may see one within the next session unless things go pear shaped on their own.

I do sympathise with a governor's life potentially being dull - maybe some kind of rotation of duty could be organised? That's what I would like to see in the Order, if we ever get the numbers to carry it out. Or you could try to mix things up - holding a tournament in your town for example. I seem to remember some RL discussion about crusades being used as an outlet to rid of unemployed troublesome warriors - the idea is starting to look relevant to our game, IMO. It should not be long before a proper in-game crusade is a possibility.

If you're looking for precedent I suggest we establish one. Playing the GM, playing Total War, playing KotF; it's all in the fun. We're already allowing out of game events in the counsel to affect in-game actions. Let some players who cannot actively participate in the game feel like they are still part of it.

[OverKnight]

Some of my favorites, but certainly not all inclusive.

A selection of telling off the Monarch:

Dietrich vs. Heinrich

Mandorf vs. Heinrich

Arnold vs. Siegfried et al

Peter vs. Elberhard

Matthias vs. Elberhard

Republicans vs. Royalists

[Ignoramus]

If you're looking for precedent I suggest we establish one. Playing the GM, playing Total War, playing KotF; it's all in the fun. We're already allowing out of game events in the counsel to affect in-game actions. Let some players who cannot actively participate in the game feel like they are still part of it.

I agree with econ. Traits make up what a person is. Adding them takes away the roleplaying potential.

[AussieGiant]

I agree with econ.

I understand things might be a little dull but will heat up quickly.

The Council session is becoming a little tense. That's always good for business.

[AussieGiant]

Very quiet in the game threads.

Why do I get the impression there is a flurry of activity happening on Message boards and PMs?

[OverKnight]

Well it has been an uneventful Session. I can see why people wouldn't want to be a part of it.

Also I think some of our more vocal members are on well deserved vacations unfortunately.

[ULC]

I can't do squat in the council sessions until I have some story work done