Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[Crazed Rabbit]

The two groups have matching members for the most part, but the person who failed to send in orders was different each night.

This is likely a coincidence, because of that. A different person is unaccounted for on the different nights, while everyone else has an alibi.

I do not believe in coincidence.

If everyone has an alibi, tell us who was in the groups so that the whole town may examine their statements.

CR

[Tratorix]

I do not believe in coincidence.

If everyone has an alibi, tell us who was in the groups so that the whole town may examine their statements.

CR

And the mafia can be sure to kill them all off, right? Can't have townies fighting back.

[GeneralHankerchief]

And the mafia can be sure to kill them all off, right? Can't have townies fighting back.

It's okay, we already know everything you're doing anyway.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm pretty sure the townies would be ones we all know have worked with ATPG before.

What is important is that the serial killer may be lurking among that small group of people, and providing that information would greatly help the town.

CR

[Reenk Roink]

Pizza, I would like to ask a question, since you've been put in such a position of authority.

What have you been doing on every night throughout the game? Specific actions and partners, please. I am quite curious.

I'll bite here. Pizza has been probably involved in some vig missions himself, although he can most likely kill by himself (or with another) if the target has a questionable result (meaning more likely to be a commie).

He is protected every night (sans 2 nights with directorship) I believe directly by a doctor.

On top of this, he has investigations (I don't know how many a round (1,2,4?) but they are quite useless from a townie perspective as they give 'loyal' or 'questionable'. Perhaps there is a clause in his role that may give him more based on percentages and multiple investigations, I don't know.

Most of the investigations (innocent/unclear/crimnal/guilty) come from a pool of other investigators that Pizza works with. These are also protected by another doctor and then townies.

With that being said, despite what I have pointed out as Pizza's very sloppy handling of recent vig missions and lynchings (I think this is based on the twin facts that he is really over reliant on investigation results and the fact that the groups are heavily infiltrated) he is certainly more innocent than you great 'khaan.

The credit to him is he is the only one still willing to organize groups. The many other organizers have died or stopped caring or lost their townie pool to draw from. The problem is he ignores evidence based on other sources in favor of the conjectures he makes based off investigation results which has not gotten good results recently because of the fact that so many townies have killed people.

[White_eyes:D]

Zombie Kill:GH
Vote:Xehh II

We still have one more round with Khaan as director.....might as well decide wither to lynch him or not then

[slashandburn]

Cauis hasn't posted in a long while and reenk we get role info starting with second investigations.

[seireikhaan]

Gonna be a fun end game, Reenk. Fun, fun indeed.

Anyways, I still feel like waiting out for pizza to answer himself.

nvmd, forgot that I can't vote.

[Tratorix]

It's okay, we already know everything you're doing anyway.

Well, if you're in such a strong position, why don't your mafia buddies just reveal themselves? It's o.k., we won't bite.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, if you're in such a strong position, why don't your mafia buddies just reveal themselves? It's o.k., we won't bite.

Oh but we already have.

[Reenk Roink]

Well, if you're in such a strong position, why don't your mafia buddies just reveal themselves? It's o.k., we won't bite.

The Mafia are in a strong position information wise (for example, Pizza never gave me investigation results while I was in close contact with him - I got some from a guy who turned out to be Mafia), however, I don't think they have raw numbers to respond to that challenge.

Killing the Don would end it, except for the fact of serial killers and it is likely a new Don has been crowned.

Gonna be a fun end game, Reenk. Fun, fun indeed.

If the balance is held then yes. Who wants a landslide victory either way?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, I would like to ask a question, since you've been put in such a position of authority.

What have you been doing on every night throughout the game? Specific actions and partners, please. I am quite curious.

That information is already public knowledge, but I will repeat it.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Whenever you see an umbrella in the writeup, that is me. I cannot do anything by myself. The persons of interest that I seek are communist in nature, and they are almost gone.

Any other night I am investigating in order to locate those people. Most people in this game that have survived are Loyal to Fatlington, the communists cannot win. As such, I have been urging the town to leave the communist suspects alone and let someone else handle it, so the town can use the lynch to catch actual mafia. Rhyfelwyr was a surprise. We knew about the criminal result, and his decidedly anti-pizzaguy stance, but him turning out to be a spy was just luck. CountArach, on the other hand, was deliberate and known to be a traitor.

I know who the final one is, and he's already contacted two of my close associates in order to convert them, and they have both reported his actions to me. He's not a threat. Besides, being a communist trying to recruit people is an excellent alibi for not being the number 5 killer or the remaining mafia, so why waste a lynch on him? He's been doing protections, so he's still useful to the town.

So we have 3 dead dons, 5 lucas, and 5 mades dead, along with a plethora of affiliated wiseguys. Still, our work is not done, and the number 5 killer is our priority. I know that Shinseikhaan cannot be the 6 foot Rabbit killer, because he was attacked by such. I also believe, though I cannot confirm, that Khaan is unable to murder while Director. If this is the case, then Khaan isn't the number 5 killer, etc.

Crazed Rabbit hasn't been cleared of anything, and several people have asked for him to be lynched this round. I am waiting for investigation results before I make my final decision. But there's nothing stopping others from proposing suspects and voting.

Although the Rabbit placed a violin bow, there was no Beretta killer last night. The Rabbit uses a shotgun. Khaan may be one of those beretta killers.

vote: Shinseikhaan.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Can dons turn up unclear?

[Lord Winter]

The two known people who killed with AtPG are me and GH. Does anyone find it funny how he always chooses us scum to do his dirty work with him. Perhaps he has a need for mafia wetwork.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Are you going to share that info on who killed Moros and LG, ATPG?

Crazed Rabbit hasn't been cleared of anything,

I have been cleared of being part of a mafia family.

CR

[Reenk Roink]

I made an "innocent" comment on Atpg, but it was conditioned with a comparison.

My real feeling on Atpg is that he should be checked carefully. I would suggest he assume the Directorate next round so that he cant kill nor vote.

Atpg has done some really scummy things as we all know. He has killed innocent townies before, he has lied a lot about a lot of things, has ordered vig kills on multiple innocent people, and promoted lynches on innocents as well, went after communists (remember that Rhyfelwer - who not confirmed yet as a commie but has a case against him was involved in protections).

Now part of it can be placed to mistakes, but the attack on Moros, who not only was one of my most trusted townies, but actually began to work with Atpg at the end after s&b became director is the thing that makes me wonder whether it is just mistakes.

The thing is, the FBI role has been well revealed out in open. We know what we're dealing with with Prole and slash.

Atpg has never revealed his role. When Andres pushed him about it, we got an excuse that it wasn't allowed. This kind of excuse had no precedent in Capo I (dunno about II).

Add to this that despite Atpg's own claimed self importance to the townie cause, the biggest danger to the Mafia are the behind the scenes FPD and other detectives, who have been picked off. CIA (and even FBI) don't get as great results as them due to the nature of their roles.

After CR is lynched, it would be a tossup for me between khaan and Atpg at this moment as of no new suspects (Xehh II is likely innocent - CR has dogged him ).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you going to share that info on who killed Moros and LG, ATPG?

CR

That information is already shared with several people I trust. You're not one of them.

The two known people who killed with AtPG are me and GH. Does anyone find it funny how he always chooses us scum to do his dirty work with him. Perhaps he has a need for mafia wetwork.

Not always. The Buntline wielder was our rogue who had done nothing all game except investigate and take out one Made Gangster. And of course, Lord Winter, if you hadn't have stuck up for your buddy Crazed Rabbit, he'd be dead instead of you. So that's another strike against Crazed.

You know, CR, if you don't vote for Shinseikhaan, I am done. I'm going to switch to you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can dons turn up unclear?

That is something I may have to consider. Right now there are only.... two? People with unclear results. one is WOGbait, and the other is already in deep stew for the failed vigilante the other night, assuming it wasn't woad or Khaan.

[LittleGrizzly]

I didn't think you could lynch the director ?

Giving you only 5 wouldn't seem quite so fair pizza... no it won't do at all... theres something special planned for you!

[Beefy187]

I deserved the lynch. I'm not going to complain.
Graveyard is just getting better and better. Now we get Strawberries!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't think you could lynch the director ?

Yes you can. It's been done in other capo games, too.

Giving you only 5 wouldn't seem quite so fair pizza... no it won't do at all... theres something special planned for you!

Boy, you really sound like an innocent townie. It's a good thing you didn't die.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Well that is funny, ATPG. I press you just a little about the serial killer and you threaten to lynch me.

That information is already shared with several people I trust. You're not one of them.

There's an easy way for the town to win this game; by having all the information. And yet you would deny that to the town. You say you have shared that information; but you have lied to the town before.

I'm not asking for roles, for detectives or doctors. I am asking simply for the names of the townies who killed Moros and LG, because the serial killer may lurk among them. The names of townies who work with you is no secret, even though you've lately taken to killing them.

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not asking for roles, for detectives or doctors. I am asking simply for the names of the townies who killed Moros and LG, because the serial killer may lurk among them. The names of townies who work with you is no secret, even though you've lately taken to killing them.

CR

As you wish.

Unvote, vote: Crazed Rabbit.

You want to know the names of the vigilantes who successfully killed last night, and thus CANNOT be the number 5 killer. Good night, sweet rabbit.

[Crazed Rabbit]

So you reveal only now that they killed successfully together?

And then you use this evidence, which you had concealed from me, to lynch me? That's supposed to be a good reason?

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

So you reveal only now that they killed successfully together?

And then you use this evidence, which you had concealed from me, to lynch me? That's supposed to be a good reason?

CR

If you wish, I can employ the time honored excuse that you're obviously scummy. Just ask Reenk.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Obviously scummy? Reenk seems to think you ought to be lynched after me.

I have been proven not to be a member of a mafia family. I have been participating in protections every night for several nights. I have been open and honest about all my actions.

I think this is just because you don't want your authority to be questioned.

CR

[Reenk Roink]

Atpg, you based your theory that Beefy was the number 5 killer because on the night that Beefy vig killed, there was no #5 killing. The Beretta thing against khaan is more of the same.

I will then point to the many instances in this game and out of it, that basing guilt off kills and such is a really shaky reason.

As for being obviously scummy, of course CR is. And, now, so are you. Again, you've dodged literally scores of the questions I've posed at you about your activities, but at least answer this one:

Why did you feel it necessary to kill Moros, given our relationship at the time and my relationship with Moros?

To be honest, I suggest a double lynch between these two (CR/Atpg). CR should be given priority. If it works, khaan is next in line in my books.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why did you feel it necessary to kill Moros, given our relationship at the time and my relationship with Moros?

He had a criminal result, which a detective had given me.

Out of all the people we've gone after for being criminal, most of them have been mades and Lucas. Occasionally an unaffiliated wiseguy gets caught in the mix. It is unfortunate but it happens.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To be honest, I suggest a double lynch between these two (CR/Atpg). CR should be given priority. If it works, khaan is next in line in my books.

I don't think so.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That is something I may have to consider. Right now there are only.... two? People with unclear results. one is WOGbait, and the other is already in deep stew for the failed vigilante the other night, assuming it wasn't woad or Khaan.

Hmm, I would think dons turn up innocent. However, you said it was down to three people last time I asked for the don short list, 2 are dead and 1 is cleared, are we only after the rogue don then?

There's a somewhat frustrating sense that if all the info was on the table we could figure out this don and lynch him.