Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did you check all the posts? Or is there a way to check who has how many posts in a topic?

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.

[CountArach]

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.

Nah, that's the only way.

[Andres]

I'm sure there's an easier way to do this that I'm unaware of, but go the the "gameroom" and click on the number of posts in this thread, which brings up the "Who Posted?" screen, where you can click on the number of posts by a given player and it shows you all their posts.

Nah, that's the only way.

Why are you not voting pevergreen?

[White_eyes:D]

Looking to hide in a bandwagon?

Looking to hide be not being in one???

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why are you not voting pevergreen?

Because if pevergreen is lynched, Reenk Roink will destroy everyone who voted for him, using a vast army of suicide bombing monks. It's happened before, it WILL happen again.

[White_eyes:D]

Because if pevergreen is lynched, Reenk Roink will destroy everyone who voted for him, using a vast army of suicide bombing monks. It's happened before, it WILL happen again.

Yeah....he will likely kill all of us in the coming night....or at least have a hand in it...

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is said that the only way to lift the Roinkish curse is to cover yourself with the blood of pizza men, dance like Michael Jackson, and then select pevergreen as Captain. It's too late for you now, Andres, and you can't have any of my blood.

[Andres]

I prefer to avoid that question, because I'd hate to admit that the case against pevergreen is the best and I should really vote to lynch him. But I hope that by not voting him, he might reward me by recruiting me for his mafia family.

I see.

[Jolt]

What a coincidence, it appears I was right all along

Vote: pevergreen

[KukriKhan]

So, why is Sigurd being lynched?

If I understand it well:

a) he was investigated N1 and result was that he was doing protection
b) he was investigated again N2 and there was nothing about protection; GH explained that second investigation reveals susceptibility (sp?), so it's normal that it doesn't say something about the night action Sig was performing;
c) CR says: Sigurd probably knew that and used the opportunity to kill on N2, because he's a good player;
d) Sigurd is afk because of RL and can't tell us about his night actions.

Is thát the case which warrants a bandwagon on Sigurd?

Really?



Big FoS Crazed Rabbit.

If you're oh so certain about Sigurd, dear Crazed Rabbit then this is the deal: if Sigurd's autopsy reveals him to be innocent, it's mutiny and you'll walk the plank. I hope you like sharks.


Vote : Louis VI the Fat

Gut feeling, can't really explain.

Gut feelings, can't explain. Less than 2 hours later (after he'd read more of the thread) his guts felt differently:

Mmmm...

Unvote : Louis VI the Fat; Vote : pevergreen

Stronger gut feeling on pever; that post seems "constructed".

And the gut feeling is soooo strong now, that:

I strongly recommend all those who voted Sigurd to switch their votes to pevergreen.

So: for advocating a Bandwagon on pever, after decrying the Bandwagon on Sigurd and voting for Louis, AND sowing the seeds of mutiny, for the SECOND time, in as many days:

This here crewman prescribes a strong antacid to quell scummy Andres' churning guts, and a

unvote: Sigurd; vote: Andres

[Andres]

Gut feelings, can't explain. Less than 2 hours later (after he'd read more of the thread) his guts felt differently:



And the gut feeling is soooo strong now, that:



So: for advocating a Bandwagon on pever, after decrying the Bandwagon on Sigurd and voting for Louis, AND sowing the seeds of mutiny, for the SECOND time, in as many days:

This here crewman prescribes a strong antacid to quell scummy Andres' churning guts, and a

unvote: Sigurd; vote: Andres

First post was after a first, quick reading before work; second post after a more close reading.

You're basically voting me for having read the last few pages of posts twice.

Anyway, now that you're here, it seems that your method of finding scum:

If'n the Cap'n don't trust his own hand-picked ossifer, who am I t' be contestin' it?

vote: Sigurd

Speak up, Sir.

comes down to blindly following whatever CR, who has never been confirmed innocent, tells you to do?

Did you actually read and analyse the case against Sigurd?

Did you, who has a bit of experience with mafia gaming, actually look at my case against pevergreen? How do you feel about the post that triggered my scumdar? It doesn't strike you as suspicious? How about him voting himself? No comment at all?

Or don't you feel like putting a lot of effort in it, as long as it ain't you who is getting lynched?

[TinCow]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?


Sigurd: 7 (splitpersonality, Yaropolk, SSNeo, slashandburn, Chaotix, Beefy, ACIN)
A1 Unit: 5 (Lord Winter, Sasaki, ATPG, Double A, Death is yonder)
pevergreen: 4 (Andres, White Eyes, pevergreen, Jolt)
ATPG: 3 (Reenk, Captain Blackadder, Tratorix)
Lord Winter: 2 (A1 Unit, AVSM)
Khazaar: 2 (Joooray, miotas)
SSNeoperestroika: 1 (CountArach)
Andres: 1 (Kukri)

Abstain: 1 (TinCow)

[pevergreen]

I will. PM'ing you now.

[Andres]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?

You could try to make a case yourself and accuse somebody. At least it will generate posts which can be analysed later in the game.

You're being lazy now.

[pevergreen]

And you're being...yeah.

take that

[White_eyes:D]

I find none of these accusations sufficiently convincing to vote for. So, let's make some money. Anyone want to buy a vote?

The shipmate they call "TinCow" speaks the truth....where is the gold if you want votes??

[KukriKhan]

You don't "get" the little jab at CR in my sentence:

If'n the Cap'n don't trust his own hand-picked ossifer, who am I t' be contestin' it?

?

CR has the power over his own officer corps, yet after 1 day-night phase asks the crew to put one of his hand-picked staff on the block. That's a little weird, I thought, but I'll contribute to the effort he requests and see what happens. Thusly, I quietly criticized his judgment, while complying with his orders. Other crewmen picked up on the hint and referred to the same issue.

Or don't you feel like putting a lot of effort in it, as long as it ain't you who is getting lynched?

I was voted. By Sasaki. For being inquisitive. Then he too changed his mind. I don't understand your worry - you have but a single vote (mine) on you, criticizing your vote on pever as being superficial, whilst advocating a Bandwagon AND suggesting the Cap'n walk the plank and be eaten by sharks.

[Subotan]

Sigurd's case is weak, but Pevergreen's is even weaker. Either way, neither have enough evidence to by lynchable, at least for the moment. However, Andres is maybe being a little too reliant on his personal "gut feeling" as evidence for the entire crew to lynch one guy, not to mention his determination for Sigurd to survive (Who is slightly suspicious anyway, and can apparently be dispatched by the captain), and his second call for a mutiny in two days. I'd like to remind Andres that although we are not 100% certain that CR is town, we have at most the exact same amount of certainty that we have of Andres, and I personally am a lot, lot less certain that Andres is acting in the best interests of this crew.
Vote:Andres

[TinCow]

You could try to make a case yourself and accuse somebody. At least it will generate posts which can be analysed later in the game.

You're being lazy now.

Interesting that you think it unimportant to find out who feels strongly enough about a vote to pay hard-earned loot for it. I think that information is more valuable than your wavering gut-instincts. (Plus, it's also profitable to me.)

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:pevergreen Vote:Sigurd
Go with Captain orders then...

[Andres]

I was voted. By Sasaki. For being inquisitive. Then he too changed his mind. I don't understand your worry - you have but a single vote (mine) on you, criticizing your vote on pever as being superficial, whilst advocating a Bandwagon AND suggesting the Cap'n walk the plank and be eaten by sharks.

So, I should only answer to a vote if I'm at risk of getting lynched?

I'm not worried about getting lynched. I think your vote on Sigurd was bad and your vote on me was bad reasoning too.

Sigurd's case is weak, but Pevergreen's is even weaker. Either way, neither have enough evidence to by lynchable, at least for the moment. However, Andres is maybe being a little too reliant on his personal "gut feeling" as evidence for the entire crew to lynch one guy, not to mention his determination for Sigurd to survive (Who is slightly suspicious anyway, and can apparently be dispatched by the captain), and his second call for a mutiny in two days. I'd like to remind Andres that although we are not 100% certain that CR is town, we have at most the exact same amount of certainty that we have of Andres, and I personally am a lot, lot less certain that Andres is acting in the best interests of this crew.
Vote:Andres

I'm not determined to have Sigurd survive. The case against him is not good and certainly not a justification for a bandwagon.

And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.

And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories

[Subotan]

I'm not determined to have Sigurd survive. The case against him is not good and certainly not a justification for a bandwagon.

If you're oh so certain about Sigurd, dear Crazed Rabbit then this is the deal: if Sigurd's autopsy reveals him to be innocent, it's mutiny and you'll walk the plank. I hope you like sharks.

I strongly recommend all those who voted Sigurd to switch their votes to pevergreen.

Vote pevergreen.

Errr....

And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.

...And neither are you. Why should we follow your lead blindly? Besides, I didn't even vote for Sigurd, and I admitted that the case for him was flimsy. I voted for you.

And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories

If it's so fun, why don't you call one?

[Centurion1]

Vote: abstain

at least we are modeling the chaos of a pirate ship well

[scotchedpommes]

Sobriety brings clarity.

Unvote: Sigurd; Vote: Andres

[and with it a renewed desire to have that flatpack bookcase and couple of Swedish quines to enliven
the auld cabin. Nod to our noggie officer scouting the decks of the dreadnought Ikea.]

The cunning one spouts off again. You should have paid for your sly deeds and economy with the truth before now.

[CountArach]

Looking to hide be not being in one???

Unvote:pevergreen Vote:Sigurd
Go with Captain orders then...

You just jumped off one bandwagon... and jumped on another... and still question me calling you on wanting to bandwagon?

@ Andres - There is no decent case against pever at all, nor is there a compelling one against Sigurd. To be honest, at the moment you are the only one who is really striking me as being somewhat abnormal. You aren't the sort to go off half-cocked against anyone in this way.

Unvote: SSNeoperestroika
Vote: Andres

[TinCow]

And CR is not cleared and thus not in a position to give orders. Following his lead blindly because he's captain is not a good idea. Captain =/= innocent.

And last but not least: the fun factor of a mutiny; GH has a talent for writing funny stories

Now, this is an interesting argument. CR claims Sigurd is a Maven crewman. That's a pretty specific allegation, and if we lynch Sigurd here we'll find out if it was right or wrong in a few days from the autopsy report. If CR is right, we all benefit because a mafioso is dead. If CR is wrong, we all benefit because we'll all be voting for a mutiny, which means extra loot for everyone.

In most games, this type of thing is usually bad, because we can't guarantee that we won't have a better lynch target than CR on the day Sigurd's results appear. However, on reading the rules closer, it looks like a Mutiny lynch is in addition to a regular lynch. Thus, if CR is wrong, we could remove him easily without disrupting the normal lynch. Am I reading the rules properly?

[KukriKhan]

Andres writes a semi-interesting distraction for us, but I wonder how it is that he personally knows:

a) he (Sigurd) was investigated N1 and result was that he was doing protection
b) he was investigated again N2 and there was nothing about protection;

Did I miss a detective result being published in this thread - or is Andres revealing himself to be privy to detective results that we lowly crewmen don't have? If so, does that make him a Brit agent?

[Andres]

Errr....

And how does that prove that I want Sigurd to survive? I'm just a) pointing out that the case against Sigurd is not good b) if CR, as a captain, orders a bandwagon against a certain player, then it's only fair that he gets removed as captain if he's wrong; c) sorry for trusting my own judgement. pevergreens' post screams "scum" to me. Since I sincerely believe in my case, it's only natural to get people voting him. Making cases without gaining the necessary support is a fruitless exercise; more votes than just mine are needed.

...And neither are you. Why should we follow your lead blindly? Besides, I didn't even vote for Sigurd, and I admitted that the case for him was flimsy. I voted for you.

Nobody should follow my lead "blindly". And nobody should follow CR's lead blindly either, which I stated clearly several times already.

If it's so fun, why don't you call one?

I need a majority of the votes. It's too early now. Calling for a mutiny now is doomed to fail.

[GeneralHankerchief]

TinCow's interpretation of the rules is correct.

[Andres]

Andres writes a semi-interesting distraction for us, but I wonder how it is that he personally knows:



Did I miss a detective result being published in this thread - or is Andres revealing himself to be privy to detective results that we lowly crewmen don't have? If so, does that make him a Brit agent?

That's what I thought is the case against Sigurd