Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[TinCow]

So the town doesn't LOSE!

look, I want to win the game, right? I'm a townie. I win if the town wins. I want the town to win.

White Eyes blabs that I know sensitive information, enough such that I'm thinking of abandoning ship so you don't have to waste a lynch on me, since I can't become an officer (all slots are filled)

Now, I have to die. Or else the mafia recruits me. And then what?

I want to win the game, right? I blab all my info and pray they can win.

You never once considered winning by aiding the mafia if you were recruited? Presumably you would greatly aid any mafia family that recruited you, even if you died shortly after that. That would put that mafia family (and thus you as well) in a good position to win the game.

You're honestly saying that you've never considered any method of winning other than being pure pro-town, even after learning that you were recruitable?

[White_eyes:D]

White Eyes blabs that I know sensitive information, enough such that I'm thinking of abandoning ship so you don't have to waste a lynch on me, since I can't become an officer (all slots are filled).

It was your fault as well

Why is it totally my fault?? I had my back to the corner, you know that

If I hadn't said anything I would have been lynched, because I choose a bad night to leave your groups...

[naut]

Well that has blown the wind out of my sails. Well, not really I just always wanted to say that. ATPG why would you have to join the mafia? Wouldn't a recruit-able thingy be optional? Or are you being shanghaied by top hat wielding Englishmen?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You never once considered winning by aiding the mafia if you were recruited? Presumably you would greatly aid any mafia family that recruited you, even if you died shortly after that. That would put that mafia family (and thus you as well) in a good position to win the game. You're honestly saying that you've never considered any method of winning other than being pure pro-town, even after learning that you were recruitable?

Sorry, that would require me to do a number of things I don't want to do in this game, such as hard work and backstabbing. I just wanted to roleplay Smilin' Sam and sing shanties.

That's all. I didn't ask for people to reveal their power roles to me. And if I ever want to organize a pro-town group again, I'm not going to betray all the people who confided in me. What was that Sasaki said in capo.... forget the exact quote but basically the idea is your trustworthiness affects how you can play the game. If you want to be at the center of pro-town groups or be recruited by mafia, etc, you can't be backstabbing your own teammates every game.

And maybe, just maybe, it isn't in my personality to be a townie and play for the mafia, trying to cut down the town's chances while I am on their team. I leave that up to other, more notorious players.

And yes, I did consider my options for helping a mafia family win. But when I got all those power roles handed to me on a silver platter, I realized that the town stood a better chance of winning. And I also knew I'd be investigated and proven loyal, and perhaps, just perhaps, made an officer and really kicked some mafia tail. That's always fun for me, regardless of role.

I was mafia recently at CFC and my team went down in flames right away. But before I died, I figured out who one of the rival mafia were and got the town to kill him off. That's what I do... because I like killing mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well that has blown the wind out of my sails. Well, not really I just always wanted to say that. ATPG why would you have to join the mafia? Wouldn't a recruit-able thingy be optional? Or are you being shanghaied by top hat wielding Englishmen?

I believe it is mandatory in this game. You get recruited, you join. No options.

[Yaropolk]

One other option would be to make ATPG an officer assuming that one of the other officers is either uncorruptable or doesnt know the power roles yet. CR, can you please confirm that ATPG has been investigated and confirmed innocent for now.

[TinCow]

Sorry, that would require me to do a number of things I don't want to do in this game, such as hard work and backstabbing. I just wanted to roleplay Smilin' Sam and sing shanties.

Well, I won't pretend that I understand this line of thought, but then again I'd betray my own mother to win a mafia game. You don't seem to be leaving us much of a choice though. Congratulations, you've lynched yourself.

Unvote; Vote: ATPG

[naut]

I believe it is mandatory in this game. You get recruited, you join. No options.

Well that's the tits on the olde wooden mermaid for sure.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, I won't pretend that I understand this line of thought, but then again I'd betray my own mother to win a mafia game.

Maybe because I spent the last two months at my computer 8 hours a day or more.

I really just wanted to relax. I can do that sometimes, right? I'm allowed to chill out, yes?

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: ATPG

He must go, I am sorry pizzaguy :/

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: Askthepizzaguy

Good, that's plenty methinks. Now let's discuss other suspects.

[White_eyes:D]

I am a possible SK....I think that's good enough

I want to hear more on the CDF thing though....

[A1_Unit]

vote:Abstain Arghh..... there be too many murders going on - the kill groups need to calm down argghh!

[Crazed Rabbit]

ATPG is a townie.

CR

[DisgruntledGoat]

Is there anyway to prevent a player from being recruited other than role blocking the recruiters? If there is then I think it would make sense to do that instead of losing a townie vote.

[Splitpersonality]

ATPG is a townie.

CR

He is, but he is quite a high risk townie. Methinks the villains of this game seek to prevent what happened in capo by recruiting ATPG early on...

[Yaropolk]

Is there anyway to prevent a player from being recruited other than role blocking the recruiters? If there is then I think it would make sense to do that instead of losing a townie vote.

Officers are unrecruitable.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Then what are we wasting time voting ATPG off the ship for! Make him first mate already.

[Iskander 3.1]

Was I vig killed because they didn't like my song?

[White_eyes:D]

Was I vig killed because they didn't like my song?

I am getting the feeling, one of the Mafia groups is killing in a pack to make it seem like a Vig or Protect group...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Not a single one of these posts is incriminating:

Pizza, if White_Eyes was with you on N2 we already have 2 attacks of 2 on night 2 which means he couldn't have participated. So He couldn't have been part of that. That would leave him being another role.... possibly a lone killer. Interestingly enough, a lone killer shows up on N3 the very night White_Eyes doesn't join your group and doesn't abandon ship.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

Thats a good point. Although, the circumstances of White_Eyes not wanting to be apart of your group N3 seems AWFULLY
suspicious.

Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?

So pizza guy who would you suggest be the double lynch victim along with you?

No I'm not too sure what to do with this situation at this point. I'm just trying to figure things out. To me it looks like two townies that are suspicious of each other. I wanted to know who ATPG would suggest for his co-lynchee.

o_O that last statement seems awfully atypical for ATPG.

You are twisting my words. ATPG has suggested HIMSELF to be lynched. I said I want to know who he wants to go with him. I.E. to see if there were any motives that might surface, not that ATPG would do anything that silly and reveal himself through that but I thought it worth the try. Obviously he was smart enough to suggest Sasaki for his co-lynchee and basically revealed nothing. No where did I say I would go along with the double lynch, in fact in that post you quoted I clearly show my opposition for a double lynch and in fact lynching ATPG at all. This sort of thing doesn't seem above board at all. ATPG schemes, it's what he does best and I'm trying to understand this scheme he's got going now.

Is there anyway to prevent a player from being recruited other than role blocking the recruiters? If there is then I think it would make sense to do that instead of losing a townie vote.

Then what are we wasting time voting ATPG off the ship for! Make him first mate already.

But taken TOGETHER...

I didn't quote the ones from page 32. But if you read over DG's posts this day it looks like he considers a variety of suspects (andres, white eyes, pizza) but abandons them when it appears they won't be lynched. I also don't by that his first post about the double lynch was intended to get information from pizza, it seems more like a mafioso who was happy enough with a double lynch to not stop and consider whether it was a good idea. Now he seems to be making a show of "we can't lynch a townie! Make him first mate!" even though louis has presumable been investigated as well...

I don't find this to be typical of DG.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Andres...Andres, I don't get any of this.

Does your role oblige you to kill officers? Must you call for mutiny?

I refused to vote you in round one. And in round two. I tried to establish your innocence today. Yet again. I've offered you protection roles on two nights.


Sasaki had you kill an innocent. Sasaki, what's more, got four lads together and tried to kill you last night.

And now, again, you call for mutiny and want to have Sasaki as captain?
I don't get it. I just don't get it.

[Subotan]

I am way too confused to vote for anyone at the minute.

Vote:Abstain

[DisgruntledGoat]

Then by all means Sasaki, lynch me. I'm bouncing all over the place because there isn't really anything to go on at all. Things are very fluid right now and new information is coming forward with each post. The only way you get answers is by asking questions. I do wonder what you would consider typical of me. I don't think I have played enough games here to establish my usual play. In fact, my usual play is quite different from anything I've done on the ORG. Ask Pizza. I'm usually FAR FAR FAR more aggressive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DisgruntledGoat is terrifying when he's in full-on townie mode.

[shlin28]

Blah, this is too big and complicated for a sober pirate's brain...

*downs some rum*

Now, we have several suspects:

DG - "suspicious" behavior in posts according to Sasaki - I don't see it myself...
ATPG - He is gonna get lynched, and 3 votes should be enough?
WE:D - I really don't see why he is getting accused, he backed out of a group, so what? I do it all the time
Andres - I do not get the case against him. X number of people killed on Night Y, therefore he must be guilty?

Am I correct in thinking that those 4 are the only suspects?

For now, Vote: Abstain

[DisgruntledGoat]

DisgruntledGoat is terrifying when he's in full-on townie mode.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm going to install ATPG as Quartermaster. No offense Seamus, but with that both officers will be cleared as townies.

So kindly do not lynch him today.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Then by all means Sasaki, lynch me. I'm bouncing all over the place because there isn't really anything to go on at all. Things are very fluid right now and new information is coming forward with each post. The only way you get answers is by asking questions. I do wonder what you would consider typical of me. I don't think I have played enough games here to establish my usual play. In fact, my usual play is quite different from anything I've done on the ORG. Ask Pizza. I'm usually FAR FAR FAR more aggressive.

DisgruntledGoat is terrifying when he's in full-on townie mode.

I've never seen you go full on townie mode. Usually when I'm in townie mode I bounce around looking for the most suspicious person

unvote:DG, vote:shlin

Try and find a suspect...

[DisgruntledGoat]

unvote: White_Eyes:D

Shlin, you forgot CDF. But he is a suspect only because Tratorix said to lynch him.