Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Tratorix]

So do we have someone we know is mafia? Or do we want to chance it and possibly randomly hit someone important to the town, as opposed to a townie who wants town to lose.

By all means, point at a known mafioso and make him walk the plank. I'm open to suggestion. What's really pointless is sudden random bandwagons based on "my gut" and nothing else.

At least with a random lynch, you have a chance of hitting mafia. You're basically lynching Jolt because you think he might possibly be a threat at some random point in the future. You've stated yourself that you believe he's a townie, he's not going to purposely sabotage his own side in the hopes of getting recruited.

[Askthepizzaguy]

he's not going to purposely sabotage his own side in the hopes of getting recruited.

Sure no one has ever done that before in games *ahem*Sasaki

[Tratorix]

Sure no one has ever done that before in games *ahem*Sasaki

[Splitpersonality]

I also have to disagree with that, in Capo I sabotaged most of the pro-town network to the communists just to get an invite.

I don't necessarially think he should be lynched, but we certainly shouldn't give him any information at this point.

[A1_Unit]

ARGH! I go away for a few hours and when I come back there are 5 new pages!

[Tratorix]

ARGH! I go away for a few hours and when I come back there are 5 new pages!

We're currently bandwagoning Jolt for no real reason, if that helps.

[TinCow]

ATPG is essentially trying to get us to waste a lynch on Jolt. This is bad play. Jolt has no say over whether he is recruited, just like the rest of us. He might even be unrecruitable, for all we know. If we lynch Jolt, it's a guaranteed waste of a round. Lynching ANYONE else who doesn't have evidence that strong about their role would be a far better move. A slim chance of lynching a mafioso is better than no chance of lynching a mafioso.

This is a stupid move that results from people blindly bandwagoning. I agree there are likely mafioso hiding in ATPG's fanclub, simply because it's absurdly easy. I recommend we turn our attention to them. Let's see here...

Unvote; Vote: Diana Abnoba

One of these days, you're bound to get a role that isn't friendly to his. Perhaps today is the day...

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, taking notes...

In the future, when I come across someone who is working to ensure the town loses, I'll just sit on that info and not mention it. Good to know. I apologize for disrupting normal townie activity. Carry on.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sorry, I could just say "sasaki is guilty, my gut told me". I dunno, I'd rather lynch someone who wants the town to lose. Call me crazy.

He does state he's presently a townie. He also states that he wants to be recruited, and he's voting for someone we know to be innocent. Sorry, I just don't see a helpful "townie" here, I see a person who wants to betray us like someone in Capo. He is townie in name only.

No, he's having fun. You talked a whole bunch a couple pages back about how you just wanted to have fun. That's what Andres said too, and me as well. But you have to be honest about it ok. It's clear that you can't stand townies who are "unhelpful", capo made that abundantly clear. You going after them is the same as me vigging someone for starting a lame townie group. But I don't try and pretend like that's the best strategy, in fact obviously if you want to win the game it's an absolutely terrible strategy. We should form massive group around a confirmed, unconvertable innocent, have every townie fall into lock step and obey orders etc etc, and win in a couple days. Except that wouldn't be fun.

So don't pretend like it's good strategy to lynch Jolt, it's a terrible strategy. In a game where you can't join the mafia by choice, and probably can't and won't be converted, you don't lynch a probably townie for being unhelpful if you want the greatest chance at winning.

I mean, you joked around for a whole round and then pulled a bunch of drama, how is that helpful townie? I don't care, just see the log in your own eye huh?

Although I do hope you actually enjoy lynching the unhelpful people, sometimes I get the impression it just stresses you out. I can't imagine not simply enjoying capo

[Language please - GH]

[TinCow]

So, taking notes...

In the future, when I come across someone who is working to ensure the town loses, I'll just sit on that info and not mention it. Good to know. I apologize for disrupting normal townie activity. Carry on.

Not all games have the same setup, ATPG. Jolt's statements would make him a good lynch in Capo, but this game has different rules. Here, his desires to join the mafia are irrelevant. By himself, he can't kill anyone and he can't lynch anyone. Just like twilightblade in Capo, he's no threat, even though he's not helping us.

[LittleGrizzly]

Jolt is a silly lynch... I completely agree with sasaki's reasoning we may as well go for a possible mafia rather than a 'bad' townie... although I think he's wrong on the whole Andres thing...

I did like the lynching ATPG idea though... what happened to that... can we reconsider ?

Jolt at least seems up for it...

Edit: It would also be nice if the people that killed me could stop seeming so innocent and making good comments... its makes it harder to call for your death

Ohh, just to note I died the very first night of this game because I wanted some fun! (that was part of the reason at least)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Very well, I think it's a bad idea to randomly lynch someone who might be helpful, versus someone who is definitely not helpful. Others disagree. And the world keeps on spinning.

[LittleGrizzly]

Are you saying the choice is between lynching Jolt or lynching someone who has been actively helping out in the groups every night ?

[scottishranger]

Well, iv been thoroughly confused for the night...

Basically its this, we either lynch a person who wants the town to lose, or we lynch a random person who doesnt deserve to die yet.

We lynch Jolt

[Tratorix]

Where did Jolt say he wants the town to lose? I didn't notice that in the chatlog. Some people, myself included, find playing as mafia more fun. It doesn't mean they're going to purposely sabotage their own side.

[KukriKhan]

vote: Jolt

[Splitpersonality]

but then if you don't kill me, I won't do anything useful

Besides willingly participate in vig groups someone wishes for volunteers

That's not willingly sabotaging a side, it's just a apathy at being a townie :/

[Tratorix]

That's not willingly sabotaging a side, it's just a apathy at being a townie :/

Apathy is death.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, a second ago you were arguing against ATPG's bandwagon, no?

[KukriKhan]

Interesting group of folks anti Jolt lynch. Nice flush, ATPG.

[Tratorix]

When have I not been against this bandwagon? I've been arguing against it for a few hours because I disagree with it and I'm bored.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Interesting group of folks anti Jolt lynch. Nice flush, ATPG.

Puts kukrikhan at top of "vig kill" list.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Splitpersonality]

Sorry, I took this:

Apathy = Death

To mean you agreed Jolt should be killed, or were you merely stating that he will die on his own because of the apathy?


EDIT

OH I see what you did there, you're quite a tricky man.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

KOTOR 2 is it?

[Tratorix]

It's a reference. Five gold to anyone who came name what it's from.

[miotas]

So... Many... Pages...

I already done me votin didn't I? Good.

Who's I be voting for? Ahhhhhh?...

Where'd I put that rum?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

[pevergreen]

I go out and do work for a customer for four hours, and I miss voting by 15 minutes.

Gah.

[White_eyes:D]

I go out and do work for a customer for four hours, and I miss voting by 15 minutes.

Gah.

It was a forgone conclusion

Edit:...oh the 3 gold....that bites

[Double A]

Voting closed.

Noooooooo! I was still reading!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 4

As the Presence sailed on, cutting its way through the calm waters of the North Atlantic, clouds started to form overhead. Soon, the waters would no longer be calm. Every sailor aboard the ship saw what was coming, and knew it wouldn't be pretty. The anticipation of the coming storm probably added to the overall testiness that defined the day's vote. Three days now of attacks, both physical and personal, did not make for a happy crew. Captain Crazed Rabbit's absence for most of the day did not do the crew any favors, either.

Finally, though, he emerged from his cabin, pronouncing the vote over, and telling the crew that he had another announcement to make.

"Lads," he said, "I be replacin' yer Quartermaster again. Thank you for yer service, Seamus Fermanagh, but right now I deem it best to be havin' Askthepizzaguy in this here position at this particular time."

Seamus eyed Rabbit incredulously as he stepped away, rejoining the crew. "I hope the next step isn't to pronounce me a Maven and have me thrown overboard?" he asked, half-joking.

"That remains to be seen," Rabbit replied in the same manner. "But seriously though Seamus, thank you for yer service. Should another vacancy open up, I'll be keepin' ye in mind. Now lads," he said, addressing the entire crew. "Who be the target o' our disapproval tonight?" A score of fingers immediately pointed at Jolt, who started loudly protesting at this.

"Quiet, boy," Rabbit hissed. "Yer fate has already been sealed, traitor. If ye don't want any further humiliation by the crew, then I suggest you die like a man, even if ye not be livin' like one."

"But-" Jolt said, and then finally closed his mouth, looking murderously at everyone who had pointed at him.

"That's a good lad," Rabbit said in a neutral tone of voice, leading Jolt and the rest of the crew to the plank. "Here be yer effects," he said, handing them to Jolt. "My ye find solace, be it in this life or the next."

"May I find solace through the night, never mind for eternity," Jolt muttered, eying the clouds up ahead.

"Aye, that ye may," said the Captain. And without further warning, he booted a surprised Jolt into the water, much to the chuckles of the crew. Several pistols were pointed at him, but Rabbit waved them off.

"Nay, lads, save yer bullets. And yer time, as well! There's a storm coming! Batten down the hatches! Secure the loose articles! I want this ship to be pissin' in Mother Nature's face tonight, and that also means nothin' rattlin' around! Well? What're ye waitin' for? GET TO WORK, YE SORRY SACKS OF SEAGULL DROPPINGS!" He continued amiably cursing at the crew, which sped off to work, leaving new discipline officer Askthepizzaguy to awkwardly yell shouts of agreement at Rabbit's orders.

Day 4 tally:

Jolt: 12 (Louis, ATPG, Goat, Subotan, Joooray, Yaro, Centurion, scottish, CA, Diana, ricera, Kukri)

Drizzt: 3 (pever, Drizzt, shlin)
ATPG: 3 (Andres, Split, Jolt)
Reenk: 2 (Beskar, Psychonaut)

Single votes: Andres (miotas), Yaro (Reenk), Diana (TinCow), shlin (Sasaki), ACIN (Chaotix), slash (Seamus), Seamus (slash)

Abstained: 5 (CR, A1, DiY, White_eyes, taka)

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It is now Night 4. The round will end at 00:01, Friday, October 9th US Eastern. That is precisely 24 hours from now.

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Attacked: Centurion1 (n1), LittleGrizzly (n1), taka (n2), Andres (n3)

Murdered: LittleGrizzly (n1), atheotes (n2), gibsonsg91921 (n2), Tratorix (n3), Iskander 3.1 (n3), Beefy187 (n3)

Lynched: woad&fangs (d2), Sigurd (d3), Jolt (d4)

Removed from play: Xehh II, johnhughthom, YLC

Souls aboard (39):
a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
A1 Unit
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
DisgruntledGoat
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
KukriKhan
Lord Winter
Louis VI the Fat
miotas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
ricera10
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
SSNeoperestroika
Subotan
taka
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan