KOTF OOC Thread

**econ21** · 10-24-2009, 16:28

Originally Posted by Ituralde

Go ahead and kill them. I thought we discussed only spawning one avatar for each player, but I can't find it anywhere in the rules so I'm fine with the choice thing. Another thing I fonud though was the restriction of having to wait five turns for a new RGB to be spawned. I haven't been counting, and honestly I currently see no need to follow that rule too strictly, but I wanted to mention it none the less.

I did not see the 5 turn rule; given that, I think it's best to wait for Zim to sort all this out. It sounds like we have two deaths and three new or returning players to accommodate. That's quite a big job - best to do it properly.

Because Nottingham and York were not ratified during the last Session, but Edict E1.10 has a wording sketchy enough that would make them both ratified along with London, since they all were used by William to hide in.

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So Nottingham, York and London were all ratified prior to their capture by Edict E1.10! Am I right, or am I right?

I think the King could plausibly make that case.

So do we decide whether a ratification is valid IC or OOC?

My 2 cents: in the first instance, decide IC about validity, with OOC decisionmaking (appeal to the GM) as a backup. For example, in the case of Nottingham and York, the King has an arguable case and so dealing with that IC seems appropriate. At the moment, given that the Seneschal decides issues of edict interpretation affecting the King, he seems in a strong position to get his way. If Overknight was still the Seneschal, I could see the issue going the opposite way. If a ratification claim was purely bogus - e.g. if there was no Edict E1.10 but the King just wanted to keep Nottingham and York - then OOC enforcement would be appropriate.

Originally Posted by shlin28

Am I right in assuming that I only need to wait before I will be assigned an avatar?

Hi and welcome!

Yes, sounds like you are good to go. I am sure our gamesmaster, Zim, will help you when he next checks in - there are about four other players also needing avatars.

**Ituralde** · 10-24-2009, 17:01

Originally Posted by econ21

I did not see the 5 turn rule; given that, I think it's best to wait for Zim to sort all this out. It sounds like we have two deaths and three new or returning players to accommodate. That's quite a big job - best to do it properly.

It's just above the (c). - Battles: segment of the rules.
And initial IC with OOC as backup sounds good to me!

Welcome to the game shlin28!

**_Tristan_** · 10-24-2009, 17:15

About the ratification of our 3 English provinces, William was fist dicovered in Nottingham and then made his way to York, thus taking this two provinces within the limits of Edict E1.10... As to London, I could have argued that as it was our intended Crusade target and as such was pre-ratified but I thought a specific Edict might be better as I couldn't see London within the limtis of Edict E1.10.

As to giving provinces, there's nothing that prevents the gifting of them to any avatar the King sees fit, even bypassing the will of a Duke and giving it to one of the Duke's vassals directly (though nothing prevents the Duke froma sking his vassal to return the land to him or pass it to another vassal...)

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 10-24-2009, 20:59

And this reminds me that Charles still don't have his own personal province!

**deguerra** · 10-25-2009, 01:37

Awww...someone ought to take Alphonse La Hire. He's cool!

HolyGateKeeper, I'm going to delay making you a coat of arms until you have a character, as his coat of Arms really ought to fit the character, the house he joins etc etc. Read the rules and you should have a character soon,

Shlin28, welcome!