The Thirty Years War [Concluded]

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Hey guys I'm going to be helping Ibn-Khaldun with the game now. If you could send all your diplomatic deals (alliances, trade deals, loans etc) to me I can forward a summary which will cut his workload and let the game flow more smoothly. You should send your orders (movement, recruitment, building etc) to I-K as usual and send me your diplomatic deals.

If you all could send me a list of your current deals as well as any new deals agreed for this phase I can make sure I-K has the correct set up for everybody. Cheers.

I confirm this.
Just to make it official.

[Centurion1]

john ill be sending you alot of stuff very soon.

you want agreements about land transfer as well?

[johnhughthom]

you want agreements about land transfer as well?

Yeah, I guess so.

[Centurion1]

i sent my first thing to you. more to come

[johnhughthom]

This is bonkers, I can't believe you were doing the whole thing by yourself I-K, simply trying to match up all the diplomatic moves is hurting my head.


edit: just to warn you guys, I was originally going to pm you if I got conflicting orders but it would take too much time. If the orders are similar I will allow them, but if one person puts through an alliance and another trade rights for example it will not be enacted.

[Centurion1]

heehee i warned you john. I have a couple more too but i need to solidify those a little more

[johnhughthom]

Greyblades, scottishranger and White_eyes are the only players not to get their orders in yet.

heehee i warned you john. I have a couple more too but i need to solidify those a little more

No problem, I'd rather you sent it piecemeal than have to change it all after sending...

[Greyblades]

I thought I gave them to I_K.

[johnhughthom]

Did you have any new diplomatic deals? If not it's ok, that's all I need.

[Greyblades]

No I think thats it. Trading with others isnt realy going to make much of a difference at the moment seeing as my cash flow is allready through the roof.

[Subotan]

Shouldnt you be playing catchup instead of threatening your fellow Catholics France?

I'm not the one selling off Catholic Italy to the Protestant Swiss!

So much for handing France the land I just got from Spain.

Way to treat your friends, France. I'll not be bullied by you or anyone else. Consider our alliance and trade rights terminated.

Bullying is misleading. I warned you, specifically:

I have also made plans to support the Savoyards in their attempts to unify Italy, which means that I will be unable to support the Swiss should they choose to expand in that direction.

I have records, and both the Dutch and England can verify this message. I gave you an explicit warning, which you then ignored. How could I possibly let this insult to my honour go unpunished? Very well then. You won't need to hand that land back, and terminating those proposed deals is unnecessary. As of 00:00 hours, the Kingdom of France is at a state of war with the Swiss Confederation.

General Treville! Prepare to liberate Framche-Comte!

[Splitpersonality]

I just sent my orders, and I would like to ask white_eyes of russia to please remain calm when he sees the map.

My troops on your border are merely uniting the Zaporogian Cossacks under polish rule, I will press nothing further that you have claimed, and I do agree that the land to your south is indeed yours. I will be seeking a southern port elsewhere.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is bonkers, I can't believe you were doing the whole thing by yourself I-K, simply trying to match up all the diplomatic moves is hurting my head.

And this is just the second turn..

I have records, and both the Dutch and England can verify this message. I gave you an explicit warning, which you then ignored. How could I possibly let this insult to my honour go unpunished? Very well then. You won't need to hand that land back, and terminating those proposed deals is unnecessary. As of 00:00 hours, the Kingdom of France is at a state of war with the Swiss Confederation.

General Treville! Prepare to liberate Framche-Comte!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Finally I can test my battle system with in-game armies!

FYI, players can(if they want) create their own battle plans. Just use battlemap from the first post(under Useful Information) and mark where you want your Missile(Arquebusiers,Musketeers), Pikemen(+Merc Infantry), Artillery and Cavalry to be placed. By default I put all Infantry in the middle of the map, artillery behind them and cavalry on the wings. If you have better ideas then send me PM with your battle plans. Remember, I will use them only when Generals are involved and there will be 1 battle plan for all Generals.

Just something for those who want more action...

[Greyblades]

Tell "General" Treville If he moves his forces out of France the next enemy he will face will be a spanish one.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Orders not received from:

Beskar (Netherlands)
scottishranger (Sweden)
Centurion1 (Saxony)

This is just a reminder. Take Your time. You still have about 8 hours to send them.

[Beskar]

8 hours? Oops, I will send them now.

I will have another misc (waiting on confirmation for that) but I will send my other orders now.

[Subotan]

Tell "General" Treville If he moves his forces out of France the next enemy he will face will be a spanish one.

He will do no such thing! Repel the Spanish aggressors!

EDIT: Btw, since the King of Bohemia was also Elector of the Palatine, shouldn't Bohemia control some Hexes on the Rhineland?

[A Very Super Market]

We're having a spot of trouble with official recognization of the state. I'm sure after things blow over, the emperor will see fit to give us our rightful lands.

So long as no upstarts invade them beforehand, that is....

[Centurion1]

saxony wishes all the best for their new bohemian allies in their fight for independence and would love to mediate the struggle between the austrians and bohemians both of whom we hold as dear friends.

[White_eyes:D]

The Tsar would like to thank both Poland-Lithuania and Sweden for their understanding

[Askthepizzaguy]

I would like to publicly request assistance from all civilized nations in dividing France's territory into several parts and giving them to the glorious victors.

France is no longer an empire, but the walking dead.

[Greyblades]

Good luck with that. If france seriously invades you I will join in. If on the otherhand they just sit still and do no more than beat off your assaults I'll have no part in it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

They have an army on my border and declared war on me. This war is defensive in nature on my part. All I'm interested in is sweet, sweet justice. And knocking off a king who obviously thinks too highly of himself, and too lowly of others.



I've even changed my mind. I will make no territorial claims to France's land whatsoever. If I am on the victorious side, all of France's land will go to my friends and allies, even if you didn't send any aid or soldiers to assist.

It's chow time, laddies!

[Double A]

The Ottoman Empire would like to make it well-know that it will see a Bohemian eastern Germany.

And a Turkish south eastern one.

And France is very pompous for believing that it can claim land it doesn't even touch for a "god-given right" when 1) Allah never said anything of the sort, and 2) would be complete bollocks even if He did, because France is obviously not Muslim. Italy is claimed by whoever gets there first. Meaning Spain, Switzerland, and the Ottoman Empire.

[A Very Super Market]

Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.

Edit: As you should know, the Holy Roman Empire is an entity created to stop conflict between the member states of the fatherland. While Saxony may well have had excuse to take Thuringia and Magdeburg and the Dutch parts of the Rhineland, the Swiss have no claims whatsoever to anything beyond their mountain lairs. I request the member states to call a meeting.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.

Did you have a bit too much ale, or are you just soiling yourself?

[White_eyes:D]

I think It should be fun to watch...I don't think ATPG well go down without a huge fight...

France missed a turn too....they have lots of cash...not enough units...it will be fun to see who wins

If France loses....shame on them

[Double A]

Switzerland claims to have the higher ground, yet he was the one who rampaged across the HRE for no reason but his own lulz. France is only doing what the emperor should have, stop the madman before he could get a lasting grip on good Germany.

Edit: As you should know, the Holy Roman Empire is an entity created to stop conflict between the member states of the fatherland. While Saxony may well have had excuse to take Thuringia and Magdeburg and the Dutch parts of the Rhineland, the Swiss have no claims whatsoever to anything beyond their mountain lairs. I request the member states to call a meeting.

Claims < 0 < army

[A Very Super Market]

Did you have a bit too much ale, or are you just soiling yourself?

Bit of both. Defenestration and freedom usually leads to such things.

Actually, a lack of any claim tends to lead to international outrage and coalitions against you. Which in turn leads to a larger army than your's attacking you. You Turks are quite inbred and effeminate in your stupidity.

[miotas]

France missed a turn too....they have lots of cash...not enough units...it will be fun to see who wins

If France loses....shame on them

My guess is that they will raise a large army of mercs. The Swiss better be careful or they will be knee high in French mercs before the year is out.