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White_eyes:D 07:19 11-02-2009
I am a little concerned, that Denmark take some of Novgorod without warning or asking me.....both Sweden and Poland gave me a heads-up first....I will overlook it because It's somewhat contested..

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Askthepizzaguy 08:04 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Double A:
Subotan, take notes. THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
No, THIS is how you handle diplomacy.




*begins chucking dead frogs at the French diplomat*

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Ibn-Khaldun 08:42 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Double A:
Great, I think I just figured out what I did wrong.

I thought I was playing against the AI.

Rest assured that I will take on this challenge actually as a challenge instead of just another pushover AI faction from TW.

Austria, may the best country win

It's not M2TW where you can conquer the world with just peasants, militia and the like(like ATPG have done).
Here you have only 6 orders per turn no matter how big you are. So, even one wrong order could doom you.

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Askthepizzaguy 09:07 11-02-2009
I like killing things with untrained serfs armed with sticks.

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Beskar 09:19 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun:

It's not M2TW where you can conquer the world with just peasants, militia and the like(like ATPG have done).
Here you have only 6 orders per turn no matter how big you are. So, even one wrong order could doom you.
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then?

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Askthepizzaguy 09:28 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then?
No.

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Ibn-Khaldun 09:33 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Does that mean even the Netherlands can actually be useful then?
Yes.

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Subotan 10:12 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Double A:
Subotan, take notes. THIS is how you handle diplomacy.
I hyave ben very busy in the diplomatic department. I've just got a short temper that's all.

Btw, for all those confused about Bohemia's claims to the Rhineland, see here.

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Ibn-Khaldun 11:44 11-02-2009
Can I bang my head against the wall?

Well, I use spreadsheets to store all information about this game. It's very good system and have made my life a lot easier hosting this game.
However, I haven't used spreadsheets for one thing they are meant to be - calculating income.
Don't know what I was thinking before!!
So, I'll just need little time to insert all financial data into spreadsheet file and in future Report PM's should be sent when write-up is posted.. and not couple of days later.

Since I go to work soon I am not able to send out pm's today but I will send them out tomorrow!

I apologize for all the inconveniences this might cause.

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miotas 11:58 11-02-2009
No need to apologise to us, you should be apologising to yourself for making such a huge task so much harder

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Centurion1 18:59 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by :
Unless your name is Saxony.
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mature, we do not want your ports anyway, they are old and outdated.

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johnhughthom 20:48 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun:
Can I bang my head against the wall?

Well, I use spreadsheets to store all information about this game. It's very good system and have made my life a lot easier hosting this game.
However, I haven't used spreadsheets for one thing they are meant to be - calculating income.
Don't know what I was thinking before!!
So, I'll just need little time to insert all financial data into spreadsheet file and in future Report PM's should be sent when write-up is posted.. and not couple of days later.

Since I go to work soon I am not able to send out pm's today but I will send them out tomorrow!

I apologize for all the inconveniences this might cause.
Let me know if I can help with this I-K.

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Subotan 23:33 11-02-2009
Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?

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Beskar 23:41 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Subotan:
Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?
No.

You need to have the land, to swap it. You could add conditional things like "Once I got the land, we can swap it" or "I will allow you to take that land" sort of thing.

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Subotan 23:44 11-02-2009
Why? That's just silly.

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Cultured Drizzt fan 23:46 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Subotan:
Why? That's just silly.
depends what you mean. when you say unoccupied territory do you mean land you have not occupied but your enemy has? Or do you mean land no one has yet.

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Csargo 23:52 11-02-2009
Since France isn't near any unoccupied territory, I assume he means his enemy has it. Which I'm sure you can do if the other party agrees that is.

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Cultured Drizzt fan 23:53 11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Csargo:
Since France isn't near any unoccupied territory, I assume he means his enemy has it. Which I'm sure you can do if the other party agrees that is.
I think that is correct.

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Beskar 00:18 11-03-2009
Right ok, he means this -

He wants land some one else owns, and he wants to swap land for that land?

If that is the case, then yes.

If you are talking about the white hex's then no.

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Centurion1 00:24 11-03-2009
i guess like technically you can give over right sto white hexes but you cannot give them.

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Subotan 00:26 11-03-2009
Ok, that makes sense.

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Centurion1 00:47 11-03-2009
So subotan how far are you going to pursue this war with the swiss, till their extinction as a nation?

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A Very Super Market 03:23 11-03-2009
Presumably, limit them to their original hexes. Why would anyone want that barren mountain?

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Askthepizzaguy 04:01 11-03-2009
My pride is a little hurt that you fellows don't consider France to be dead already.

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Csargo 04:31 11-03-2009
Don't worry, I believe in you ATPG!

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Double A 04:34 11-03-2009
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
My pride is a little hurt that you fellows don't consider France to be dead already.
I consider it as dead as Osman II.

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Chaotix 06:11 11-03-2009
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D:
I am a little concerned, that Denmark take some of Novgorod without warning or asking me.....both Sweden and Poland gave me a heads-up first....I will overlook it because It's somewhat contested..
The land was close to mine, and I did not know that you had claimed all of it for yourself.
I did not feel the need to consult you on it.

As I've said before, I'm completely content to sell you the land at a nice low price. Better than me having to spend time and money trying to convert them; they may as well be ruled by an Orthodox king.

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White_eyes:D 06:49 11-03-2009
I was raising with Sweden over it.....did you really think I would not care in that case?(my bonuses are in Russia....)

No harm done this time.....but please refrain from doing such things in the future

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Chaotix 06:59 11-03-2009
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D:
I was raising with Sweden over it.....did you really think I would not care in that case?(my bonuses are in Russia....)

No harm done this time.....but please refrain from doing such things in the future
Again, as had been made clear- you never told me of your treaties or arguments with Sweden, and you only mentioned border conflicts in-thread: which were much further south than the land I occupied. I'm not going to pretend I made a transgression just to appease you; if you wanted all of the Novgorod region you should have explicitly told me, and then I could have used the turn that I wasted taking those lands on something more important.

Make me an offer in private, and I'll sell the land to you. That's what allies are for.

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White_eyes:D 07:03 11-03-2009
A little later.....

I have quite a bit of land to take still....no sense in taking something I can't defend right away..

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