Wishlist for CoD: MW2

[tibilicus]

Kind of a shame about the PC situation. After receiving the game early I've had a chance to spend a couple of hours playing MP and can say that the maps probably would of worked quite well for most large player games.

It might just be because they're new but most maps seem about the same size as overgrown was, some of them seem even bigger, this might just be because they're new to me but I could see large player games working. Even the smaller maps, like karachi for example seem big due to the many houses and buildings you can duck in and out of.

[Fragony]

Well it's there, commercial sites are more in love with it than the consumers it seems, 9.8 press avarage, 8.5 user reviews. Smelly.

[Prussian to the Iron]

the horrible thing is, that despite all their HUGE screw-ups on this game, these will barely put a dent in the sales.

I'll be pretty busy for a while anyway: I'm gettting Assassins Creed 2, then Left 4 Dead 2. its gon be a fun winter!!!

[Monk]

Forget Modern Warfare 2, I'm interested in 3!

[Beskar]

Forget Modern Warfare 2, I'm interested in 3!

I would so would love to see a game like that.

I was reading the Ars MW2 thing, and all I can say, I am glad I don't play this franchise.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Forget Modern Warfare 2, I'm interested in 3!

"Where players must repair Humvees for 10 hours a day"

-Collect Cigarette Butts outside Office
-Repair 3200 Humvees

that was an epic won Monk. I wish I could give you a frickin zeppelin just for finding that!

[naut]

So my copy of CoD arrived this morning and I was excited. Then to my horror I saw that it requires Steam. I HATE STEAM! So I promptly put it back in the postage box with the foamy balls and taped the box closed. Placed enough stamps on it and wrote the address of the place I pre-ordered it from on the box. Went to the post office and had it posted as a bulky item. Sent an email to them, and they have replied just now and are sending me my money back. Awesome.

[Subotan]

"Where players must repair Humvees for 10 hours a day"

-Collect Cigarette Butts outside Office
-Repair 3200 Humvees

that was an epic won Monk. I wish I could give you a frickin zeppelin just for finding that!

They don't have the Onion in SC? Hell, I live in the UK and I know what the Onion is. I wish they had it over here...

So my copy of CoD arrived this morning and I was excited. Then to my horror I saw that it requires Steam. I HATE STEAM! So I promptly put it back in the postage box with the foamy balls and taped the box closed. Placed enough stamps on it and wrote the address of the place I pre-ordered it from on the box. Went to the post office and had it posted as a bulky item. Sent an email to them, and they have replied just now and are sending me my money back. Awesome.

Niiice. But why do you hate Steam? Sure, it's a real pain, but why do you dislike it so much?

[Beskar]

Niiice. But why do you hate Steam? Sure, it's a real pain, but why do you dislike it so much?

Steam is great. There is no logical reason for any hate.

[naut]

There is no logical reason for any hate.

I've had nothing but bad experiences with Steam in the past and as such I make sure I do not use their "services" whenever possible.

The only time I use Steam is when borrowing my brother's PC to play L4D and probably L4D2 when that comes out.

As much as I want to play games like CoD:4:2 and TF2 I do not like Steam and I'd rather not bother with the potential hassle.

[Beskar]

I've had nothing but bad experiences with Steam in the past and as such I make sure I do not use their "services" whenever possible.

The only time I use Steam is when borrowing my brother's PC to play L4D and probably L4D2 when that comes out.

As much as I want to play games like CoD:4:2 and TF2 I do not like Steam and I'd rather not bother with the potential hassle.

Seems like you had no bad experiences for L4D.

If it is because of E:TW, then blame CA for releasing a bad game, not Steam.

[naut]

Seems like you had no bad experiences for L4D.

No, I just breathe deep and close my eyes until the game has actually loaded.

If it is because of E:TW, then blame CA for releasing a bad game, not Steam.

ETW? Eww. I take that as a significant insult. The last CA game I actually really played was MTW-VI.

[Hooahguy]

the console reviews of MW2 are amazing.
the PC reviews, not so much.

[Prussian to the Iron]

They don't have the Onion in SC? Hell, I live in the UK and I know what the Onion is. I wish they had it over here...

Niiice. But why do you hate Steam? Sure, it's a real pain, but why do you dislike it so much?

SC? NC i believe you mean. and if its a show....than i dont think so. i just thought the vid was hilarious.

and i too harbor a deep, eternal hatred for steam. for the release of ETW. it is not the game itself i hate (I like it, especially modded) but how the release and patches and auto-patch goes. it means if i want to play a mod, i have to re-copy-paste all the data back into the folder. and hope it works. and then once i exit, i get to do it again if i want to play more.



back ontopic guys!!!


so, i just read the story online; sounds pretty boring:

*WARNING!!! HUGE SPOILER TO FOLLOW!!!*

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

so the start is just basic fighting, and then the story starts at our oh so beloved airport level (complete sarcasm in case no one saw it). the russians see the american body, and then DoW on america. then they attack D.C., and the multi-national task-force 141 tries to find the terrorist leader's rival in Rio de Jainero. it turns out to be Cpt. Price from cod 4, and he hijacks a nuclear submarine from russia. than he fires a nuke at DC, but makes it detonate in space and take out the ISS. the sudden lack of communication from both countries forces means the army ranger unit has to go re-capture the white house, place green smoke, and prevent a massive carpet bombing.

than Nikolai (also from the first game) brings Price to a safehouse. they are now fugitives.

not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.

note my over-use of sarcasm. ill get it in the bargain bin in a few months.






story-aside, with the same engine and ability to use an AC-130, and weapons besides just american and terrorist, id say its better multiplayer wise than CoD4 on the consoles. still, ill just keep my nazi zombies and PPSH's for another year.

[Subotan]

SC? NC i believe you mean

Apologies.

and i too harbor a deep, eternal hatred for steam. for the release of ETW. it is not the game itself i hate (I like it, especially modded) but how the release and patches and auto-patch goes. it means if i want to play a mod, i have to re-copy-paste all the data back into the folder. and hope it works. and then once i exit, i get to do it again if i want to play more.

Um. That has never happened to me, and I've used plenty of mods (Goldeneye Source FTW)

[Prussian to the Iron]

Apologies.


Um. That has never happened to me, and I've used plenty of mods (Goldeneye Source FTW)

no more steam talk please, unless it is specifically related to the release of CoD MW2.

[Subotan]

So why did they make a deal to use Steam? Apart from Steam, Valve are awesome, and it doesn't make sense to via Steam to give money to another game making company (Vale, the company that owns Steam). Unless, from Steam, IF get more money, as they get to bypass shops such as Amazon, GAME etc, because they can sell their products through Steam?

[Prussian to the Iron]

ummm.........

maybe so they had to put minimal effort into the PC multiplayer, and just let steam take the fall for the lack of reliable multiplayer, like with ETW.

[A Very Super Market]

That isn't really how it works. Steam is a distribution system combined with a bit of social networking. The MP servers are unrelated to Steam, and that's common knowledge.

[Prussian to the Iron]

That isn't really how it works. Steam is a distribution system combined with a bit of social networking. The MP servers are unrelated to Steam, and that's common knowledge.

oh.......well..................



To the Secret Vault to evade being wrong!

[Subotan]

That isn't really how it works. Steam is a distribution system combined with a bit of social networking. The MP servers are unrelated to Steam, and that's common knowledge.

Exactly, Steam is like Last.fm for gamers, except Steam does updates.

maybe so they had to put minimal effort into the PC multiplayer, and just let Steam take the fall for the lack of reliable multiplayer, like with ETW.

That doesn't make any sense. Apart from the fact that Steam is run by a company called Valve, who have numerous times over proved their ability to use Steam in MP, (TF2 Anyone? Counterstrike?), MP in COD was developed by IF rather than "Steam", so a bad MP would leave IF liable.

[Prussian to the Iron]

my buddy got it today, and we played a little.

i have to say, it is just as i expected. a carbon copy of CoD4 and 5 with new guns and different places. even more than half the dialogue in the tutorial mission is the same lines as in cod 4's.

[Monk]

Are you curious as to what boycotters of MW2 are playing right now? Rock Paper Shotgun was, and the pic found its way to Kotaku.



Epic boycott fail.

[A Very Super Market]

To be fair, most of them probably joined just to see what was happening. The lesson being re-learned today is that internet boycotts are silly.

[Warluster]

Okay I just finished the SP in four hours (MW2).

My opinion on SP;

The first three hours are quite brilliant. I read somewhere that they have cut out all the 'filler' shooting bits and made it all highly intense. And it was. Obviously the series has taken a nosedive from the slight reality of the first four Call of Duty's, and it feels like an action movie then a war FPS, but its still a magnificent ride worth playing (Even just a weekend rent is enough).

Sometimes the SP felt like it was showing off all the new stuff for MP. Especially the American missions. The Gulag mission was incredibly amazing and the first Cliffhanger snow mission was superb, and some moments are memorable.

But when I really started to get into the plot (Yeah, it was really cliche, but it was still done well) it got really, really unbelieveable; in a bad way. I don't want to give too much away for those who will play it; but basiclly it ditches the old CoD formula and goes James Bond-style.

And a horrible, horrible ending.

MP returns, and its updated and improved from the last game (CoD4). It has titles, embelms, more ingame achivements, and a lot of stuff which makes it fun, but I really miss the 64 player game, or even 32 players. Haven't entered any grenade festivals yet, and the new Killstreaks are fun and well implemented.

I honestly think the best part about this game is the Spec Ops mode. Me and a mate have been churning through it and its really. Its not coop like WaW, but you get singular missions which are unique to Spec Ops. If you've beena round the gaming world for the past few years you've surely heard of the AC - 130 gunship mission in CoD 4; well you can replay that in Spec Ops but instead your covering a friend on the ground who has to race to a finish line. After moments of said friend blowing you up with the 105 mm cannon it is really fun.

The only downside is the poor Internet connection we both have so its lags a lot sometimes; and the frustration some hard missions cause.

Thats my opinion. I was excited about MW2, and I will be hanging onto it mainly just to experiment with MP a bit more and wait for the DLC for Spec Ops. SP can hide away for another year. I am interested in the next CoD to see where Treayarch heads for (I am one of the freaks who enjoyed WaW!). Not the game of the decade but a fun game.

Edit: I forgot to mention, some of the plot doesn't add up at all.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Why was Price in the Russian gulag anyway? And why would Shepard devote an entire task force to rescue him, when he knows Price is an enemy? Was he trying to stuff up? And how did Price know that the sub had a EMP bomb? I am hoping this stuff is plot lines which IW is trailing into the next game, just like the dead VIP you discover and recover the laptop on the floor, or the data Roach collects at Makarov's.

[Prussian to the Iron]

To be fair, most of them probably joined just to see what was happening. The lesson being re-learned today is that internet boycotts are silly.

unfortunately, the majority of players lack the will to boycott such an anticipated game. i probably wont buy it...ever, but i know if someone said "Everyone, let's boycott CoD WaW until they give us a new free zombie map!" I would start off playing Bioshock for maybe a week, get back into battlefield bad company, and then lose my willpower. and guess what. i dont have any fortify willpower potions (if youve played morrowind or oblivion you know). and id go back to WaW.

Okay I just finished the SP in four hours (MW2).

My opinion on SP;

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The first three hours are quite brilliant. I read somewhere that they have cut out all the 'filler' shooting bits and made it all highly intense. And it was. Obviously the series has taken a nosedive from the slight reality of the first four Call of Duty's, and it feels like an action movie then a war FPS, but its still a magnificent ride worth playing (Even just a weekend rent is enough).

Sometimes the SP felt like it was showing off all the new stuff for MP. Especially the American missions. The Gulag mission was incredibly amazing and the first Cliffhanger snow mission was superb, and some moments are memorable.

But when I really started to get into the plot (Yeah, it was really cliche, but it was still done well) it got really, really unbelieveable; in a bad way. I don't want to give too much away for those who will play it; but basiclly it ditches the old CoD formula and goes James Bond-style.

And a horrible, horrible ending.

MP returns, and its updated and improved from the last game (CoD4). It has titles, embelms, more ingame achivements, and a lot of stuff which makes it fun, but I really miss the 64 player game, or even 32 players. Haven't entered any grenade festivals yet, and the new Killstreaks are fun and well implemented.

I honestly think the best part about this game is the Spec Ops mode. Me and a mate have been churning through it and its really. Its not coop like WaW, but you get singular missions which are unique to Spec Ops. If you've beena round the gaming world for the past few years you've surely heard of the AC - 130 gunship mission in CoD 4; well you can replay that in Spec Ops but instead your covering a friend on the ground who has to race to a finish line. After moments of said friend blowing you up with the 105 mm cannon it is really fun.

The only downside is the poor Internet connection we both have so its lags a lot sometimes; and the frustration some hard missions cause.

Thats my opinion. I was excited about MW2, and I will be hanging onto it mainly just to experiment with MP a bit more and wait for the DLC for Spec Ops. SP can hide away for another year. I am interested in the next CoD to see where Treayarch heads for (I am one of the freaks who enjoyed WaW!). Not the game of the decade but a fun game.

spoiler'd for length.

i agree that MP is still great, but think of why it is: it is the same engine running in CoD 4 and WaW. i do adore the customizable kill streaks, and ninja deathstreak is useful if youre goin against like an uber team. i just simply cannot get over the fact that they made each kill 100 points instead of 10 (5 in FFA) like in the last 2 games. it throws me off.

I'll rent it this weekend and try out the SP. hopefully i'll be surprised. and regarding the plot, refer to this post:

not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.

note my over-use of sarcasm.

[Prussian to the Iron]

To be fair, most of them probably joined just to see what was happening. The lesson being re-learned today is that internet boycotts are silly.

unfortunately, the majority of players lack the will to boycott such an anticipated game. i probably wont buy it...ever, but i know if someone said "Everyone, let's boycott CoD WaW until they give us a new free zombie map!" I would start off playing Bioshock for maybe a week, get back into battlefield bad company, and then lose my willpower. and guess what. i dont have any fortify willpower potions (if youve played morrowind or oblivion you know). and id go back to WaW.

Okay I just finished the SP in four hours (MW2).

My opinion on SP;

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The first three hours are quite brilliant. I read somewhere that they have cut out all the 'filler' shooting bits and made it all highly intense. And it was. Obviously the series has taken a nosedive from the slight reality of the first four Call of Duty's, and it feels like an action movie then a war FPS, but its still a magnificent ride worth playing (Even just a weekend rent is enough).

Sometimes the SP felt like it was showing off all the new stuff for MP. Especially the American missions. The Gulag mission was incredibly amazing and the first Cliffhanger snow mission was superb, and some moments are memorable.

But when I really started to get into the plot (Yeah, it was really cliche, but it was still done well) it got really, really unbelieveable; in a bad way. I don't want to give too much away for those who will play it; but basiclly it ditches the old CoD formula and goes James Bond-style.

And a horrible, horrible ending.

MP returns, and its updated and improved from the last game (CoD4). It has titles, embelms, more ingame achivements, and a lot of stuff which makes it fun, but I really miss the 64 player game, or even 32 players. Haven't entered any grenade festivals yet, and the new Killstreaks are fun and well implemented.

I honestly think the best part about this game is the Spec Ops mode. Me and a mate have been churning through it and its really. Its not coop like WaW, but you get singular missions which are unique to Spec Ops. If you've beena round the gaming world for the past few years you've surely heard of the AC - 130 gunship mission in CoD 4; well you can replay that in Spec Ops but instead your covering a friend on the ground who has to race to a finish line. After moments of said friend blowing you up with the 105 mm cannon it is really fun.

The only downside is the poor Internet connection we both have so its lags a lot sometimes; and the frustration some hard missions cause.

Thats my opinion. I was excited about MW2, and I will be hanging onto it mainly just to experiment with MP a bit more and wait for the DLC for Spec Ops. SP can hide away for another year. I am interested in the next CoD to see where Treayarch heads for (I am one of the freaks who enjoyed WaW!). Not the game of the decade but a fun game.

spoiler'd for length.

i agree that MP is still great, but think of why it is: it is the same engine running in CoD 4 and WaW. i do adore the customizable kill streaks, and ninja deathstreak is useful if youre goin against like an uber team. i just simply cannot get over the fact that they made each kill 100 points instead of 10 (5 in FFA) like in the last 2 games. it throws me off.

I'll rent it this weekend and try out the SP. hopefully i'll be surprised. and regarding the plot, refer to this post:

not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.

note my over-use of sarcasm.

[naut]

Ok. So I tried it at a friend's place.

Finished the SP in just under 3 hours on Hardened. Was decent, some good play at the start, then it trails off. Very short.

MP. Arcade game much? I dislike how matches aren't auto-balanced, and you can't switch teams. I dislike most of the guns. I want to shoot whoever thought it was a good idea to allow double P90. What on earth were they thinking!?!

All-round. This game gets a massive meh from me.

Lastly. I loved this. Official reviewer gives it 9.5. The general public gives it 1.9 (975ish votes).

[Beskar]

I saw this about MW2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudC...layer_embedded

How was that even possible?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

The single player felt like a step down from MW1. They got rid of endless enemies, which was nice, but instead had a finite number of enemies who spawn behind you. Big improvement.

The fighting in American suburbs was neat, though more for the setting than technical reasons. In contrast, a lot of the British missions felt gimmicky. The "race to the end" with the snowmobiles and boats were annoying instead of cinematic (and the auto-kill-anything-in-front-of-you guns were silly). It was also getting a bit silly the number of times you were shot in the stomach by people who had just rescued you.

And the plot holes are big enough to fly an AC-130 through. The first one required some real suspension of disbelief but this was ridiculous.

Not playing MP.