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    Prussia and Poland now auto-declare war on Austria on the first turn, regardless of setting.

    I wish, for once, CA would create a starting setup where (a) France was the dominant land power (instead of Maratha) and (b) all the German states pretty much hated France's guts and would go after her instead of DoW'ing on each other and/or Poland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimitsTexan View Post
    Prussia and Poland now auto-declare war on Austria on the first turn, regardless of setting.

    I wish, for once, CA would create a starting setup where (a) France was the dominant land power (instead of Maratha) and (b) all the German states pretty much hated France's guts and would go after her instead of DoW'ing on each other and/or Poland.
    1. Prussia and Austria are allies in my game. I am playing Sweden.
    2. German states did not unite and go after France in earnest until mid-XIX century...

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    Did you start a new game, or are you continuing an old one? I saw Austro-Prussian alliances occaissionally before, but not since the DLC.

    Austria, Prussia, and the majority of the Holy Roman Empire fought against France and Bourbon Spain in the War of Spanish Succession. Granted, the rest of the century saw Prussia and Austria going at it hammer and tongs until the French Revolutionary Wars, but it is to my mind unthinkable that Prussia and Austria would have fought amongst each other or bothered with Poland until after the threat of Louis XIV France had been dealt with. To my mind, the game start (and the first few turns) should reflect the political realities, at least in a general sense, of 1700 (e.g. Prussia and Austria allied, Bavaria allied to France rather than Austria, Germany ready to take up arms against France and Spain, Poland leaving Germany alone and vice versa, Iroquios not going on the suicide warpath against the Thirteen Colonies, etc.) Of course, currently, they really do not.

    I am sure it does not help that France in game is not notably stronger than any of its neighbors for the first few turns, at least.
    Last edited by NimitsTexan; 12-11-2009 at 18:07.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimitsTexan View Post
    Did you start a new game, or are you continuing an old one? I saw Austro-Prussian alliances occaissionally before, but not since the DLC.

    Austria, Prussia, and the majority of the Holy Roman Empire faught against France and Bourbon Spain in the War of Spanish Succession. Granted, the rest of the century saw Prussia and Austria going at it hammer and tongs until the French Revolutionary Wars, but it is to my mind unthinkable that Prussia and Austria would have fought amongst each other or bothered with Poland until after the threat of Louis XIV France had been dealt with. To my mind, the game start (and the first few turns) should reflect the political realities, at least in a general sense, of 1700 (e.g. Prussia and Austria allied, Bavaria allied to France rather than Austria, Germany ready to take up arms against France and Spain, Poland leaving Germany alone and vice versa, Iroquios not going on the suicide warpath against the Thirteen Colonies, etc.) Of course, currently, they really do not.

    I am sure it does not help that France in game is not notably stronger than any of its neighbors for the first few turns, at least.
    It was a new campaign.

    I agree, it would please our historically oriented minds more if the alliances reflected the time period more accurately :)

    Then again, I am more 'disturbed' by the fact that Portugal does not own the jewel of their crown: Brazil (nor their African holdings) and it's sufficient to take Portugal's single European territory to wipe them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    It was a new campaign.

    I agree, it would please our historically oriented minds more if the alliances reflected the time period more accurately :)

    Then again, I am more 'disturbed' by the fact that Portugal does not own the jewel of their crown: Brazil (nor their African holdings) and it's sufficient to take their single European territory to wipe them out.
    Yus well, DLC's to expand the americas and africa to cape town would have been very nice, and I would have bought them, but CA need to make them first. I don't care about savegame size anymore, Empires saves are already rediculously large, why not keep going!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    Then again, I am more 'disturbed' by the fact that Portugal does not own the jewel of their crown: Brazil (nor their African holdings) and it's sufficient to take Portugal's single European territory to wipe them out.
    I am guessing Africa (aside from North Africa) was left out because there was minimal European exploratory or military activity there until after the time period of ETW.

    'Course, Portugal being represented by 1 region is really no worse than France being represented by only two. The super regions of ETW are really not suited to the territorial trading that went on in conjunction with the wars of the period. Specifically, beyond the fact that the German and Italian states were really more fractured than represented, the ETW set up makes it impossile for Britain to get Minorca or split Naples and Sicily.
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