Will Sarah Palin be elected President of the US in 2012?

[Watchman]

No, they are not. No more than the Democrats, or many other parties, at any rate.

Then they must've just had an unusually bad day. For the past eight or so years.
Also, Palin.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Because it's the GOP, and they're idiots ?

John. "Three purple hearts". Kerry.

[Reverend Joe]

The fact is though, that the media and her opponents did attack her because of her sex.

Because, personally, I saw nothing of it. In fact, I am very inclined to disagree just based on common sense, because the "Media" avoids sexism and racism like the plague. If they don;t like somebody, it's based entirely on their political views, because accusations of insulting a "class" will sink you like a stone in the political media.

As far as the VP debate, the McCain aids instructed her to be non-committal whenever possible, to avoid answering real questions, and basically did not let her be herself. Considering the restrictions placed upon her, I would say that she did pretty darned well.

Sorry, but you got your VP's mixed up. It was Joe Biden who was instructed to shut the hell up and take her inane rambling, becuase otherwise he would be seen as beating up a woman. As for Palin, I wouldn't be surprised if they told her to shut the hell up, but from what I saw, she didn't really listen to that advice.

As far as good conservative presidents, Eisenhower is anything but. I think I would rather slit my wrists than see another Eisenhower. Nixon had some really good points, but was a complete *** on others. Reagan was not a flipflopper, that is the truth. I would not hold that against him though. Not only did he win by a landslide, but he was one of the best Presidents that we have ever had.

I got nothing. I think you're just disagreeing with me for the hell of it here.

[Watchman]

John. "Three purple hearts". Kerry.

Didn't say the Dems were much better. But they didn't get the country stuck in two bloody quagmires out of what by all accounts amounted largely to replacing proper planning with hubris and reality-free fantasy.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

As far as good conservative presidents, Eisenhower is anything but. I think I would rather slit my wrists than see another Eisenhower.

Why?

[woad&fangs]

Judging by the fact that he is infatuated with that crackpot from Alaska, I'm going to guess he doesn't like Eisenhower because Eisenhower was a RINO. Eisenhower was actually courted by the democratic party for a potential presidential run before the Republicans went after him.

Edit: and I find it very ironic that Vuk considers stimulus loving Reagan to be one of our best presidents, while he simultaneously derides Obama's stimulus as evil socialism.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I wouldn't call Eisenhower a RINO. He was a pragmatic conservative, in my opinion.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I just want to say first of all that Reverend Joe is now my favorite person here for the Big Lebowski reference.

Eisenhower was the best Republican president that the United States has had in the past 50 years in my opinion. Eisenhower knew from first hand experience the danger of military contractors toward our national budget and was the one to coin the term "military industrial complex" which he warned against. That makes him more fiscally conservative then Reagan and both Bush's who have no problem cutting taxes and social programs for smaller government but like to run up the biggest deficits in American history through military spending. Oh and he also signed and supported the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 which is what created the highways that we all rely upon everyday to travel long distances (pretty much anything outside then the city we live in) while creating a federal budget surplus for two years, his overall impact on the national debt was only about 27 billion compared to Vuk's hero Reagan, the pride and joy of conservatism who's fiscal conservative tactics of tax cuts and reducing social programs for poor and elderly saved the country...by adding 1.95 trillion to the national debt and reversing the expansion of the middle class that was seen in the 1960s and 1970s.


Nixon despite his scandal, was a very intelligent man when it came to foreign politics and should be praised for detente. He is as underrated as Reagan is overrated for his "ending" of the Cold War, which was just him making a threatening speech ("tear down this wall") before the economic system of the Soviet Union crumbled causing reformists to gain power (Gorbachev) and truly dismantle the "Evil Empire".

[Crazed Rabbit]

Didn't say the Dems were much better. But they didn't get the country stuck in two bloody quagmires out of what by all accounts amounted largely to replacing proper planning with hubris and reality-free fantasy.

Korea? Vietnam?

Both those resulted in the deaths of many, many more American soldiers than Iraq 2 and Afghanistan combined.

I think Palin was treated unfairly by the press. But I also don't want her as the President.

And Ice - there's no excuse for wanting someone dead. I think Obama is going to make millions of lives worse with reckless spending and degrade health insurance by piling more government bureaucracy on top. But killing never should be an answer in a democracy. Because if someone who you think will do grievous harm is elected, that means millions upon millions more people disagreed with you.

And you don't get to play God by thinking your individual judgment is more important than all of that.

CR

[Watchman]

Korea? Vietnam?

Both those resulted in the deaths of many, many more American soldiers than Iraq 2 and Afghanistan combined.

I take it I should have added the qualifier "within the last few decades" ? Sheesh, so touchy.

[Lemur]

It's not evil to seek death upon someone who would ruin the lives of millions, or even billions of people [...]

Actually, I think calling for someone's death is incredibly poor taste. I disagree with Mr. Palin's politics, and I think she'd a fifty-car flaming highway wreck of a President, but in no way do I wish any personal harm on her. That's just ... inappropriate.

I'd give Ms. Palin a 5% chance of getting the Repub nomination should she pursue it. But I don't think she will. Life as a celebrity is much less taxing, and much more lucrative.

As for her recent memoir, I would read some of the fact-checks available online before taking it as gospel truth. Many people with firsthand knowledge of the events she narrates describe it as a work of magical fiction.

[Ice]

Actually, I think calling for someone's death is incredibly poor taste. I disagree with Mr. Palin's politics, and I think she'd a fifty-car flaming highway wreck of a President, but in no way do I wish any personal harm on her. That's just ... inappropriate.

Then I'm inappropriate and have bad test, but I'd rather see one nutjob dead then a country in ruins. My statement pretty much applies to anyone who holds great power, and is in an ridiculous lunatic. America already has enough problems and the last thing it needs is Sarah Palin. It's really nothing personal.

[Lemur]

Ice, we've got this wacky thing called "voting" going on. It allows us to periodically change leadership without killing anyone. You gotta look into it.

[Ice]

Ice, we've got this wacky thing called "voting" going on. It allows us to periodically change leadership without killing anyone. You gotta look into it.

Really, Lemur? I didn't know about voting. I guess I've been living under a rock under all these years.

I'm sure no trouble could possibly be caused within four years though, right?

[Lemur]

Ice, all I'm saying is that killing your opponents, or even publicly calling for their demise, is some serious Hutu Power. It's not the American way.

[Beskar]

Ice, all I'm saying is that killing your opponents, or even publicly calling for their demise, is some serious Hutu Power. It's not the American way.

I think he has been watching and reading too much Death Note.

"I will kill all the criminals in the world! Then the world could be a good place where people who are kind and loving will be the only ones there!"

[Ice]

I'm not advocating mass genocide based on tribal affiliation or some other stupid superficial quality . I'm not sure where that idea came from.

[Watchman]

Jeffrey Dahmer started out small too, you know. :/

[Xiahou]

I think any Palin run would be a long shot at this point.
She was treated unfairly by the press, but she compounded that with self-inflicted wounds. She is still too unpolished, still speaks without thinking and her resigning the governorship will continue to haunt her.

In general, I like Palin and like her politics- but I don't know that she'll ever be ready for the presidency.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We call for people's death all the time here...

I wouldn't call it on palin though. She'd just be ineffectual and end up boosting the democrats.

[Major Robert Dump]

Sarah Palin is a fake. A bad fake.

I made a great big long post, but then deleted it all because, in a nut shell, all I was saying is she is a bad fake.

The documentary that was supposed to show how mistreated she was in the election actually proved nothing we didn't already know: you act like a tard, the media pounce. Media are sharks and pigs, you bleed, they come for you. Blame it on SNL all you want.

The "I'm teh victimz" schtick is starting to wear thin even with the GOP. Even with GOP females. The Time Magazine cover of her in her jogging outfit was sexist? Really?

So she has a book. She also quit as governor. She also leaves fans in the rain 3 feet from her bus with unsigned books then drives away and says she didn't know they were there. She also blames the election results on everyone but herself.

Oh, and she flies on the bus tour. She flies to an airport, then gets on the bus, then goes back to the airport, all while carefully stating her "updates from the road" so no one can ever really say she lied but her retard fans honestly think she is toughing it down route 66 on a tour bus. Wow.

So please, Sarah, please tell us some more about how Al Gore is profiting from the alternative energy movement as if you and your cronies don't profit from the status quo energy movement.

Please say small government, cut taxes, patriot, rogue, maverick some more, please.

And if you run, please get a good VP candidate, because he will be running the country not you. And he will be the one locking you in the back of the press plane so you can't talk to reporters. Just like McCain did.

Sarah Palin running in 2008 would be the best thing to happen to Obama since he got elected.

[Lemur]

The "I'm teh victimz" schtick is starting to wear thin even with the GOP. Even with GOP females.

Actually, she polls comparatively badly with GOP females. It's the GOP males who are her base, such as it is.

We call for people's death all the time here...

No, we do not. Wishing death on a public political figure is a blessedly rare event at the Org.

[Meneldil]

Dubya has repeatedly shamed his country in front of the whole world, started two wars that quickly turned into huge political failures, ruined the economy and made the american people look like a bunch of moron to the civilized world and yet the republicans are asking for more?

Go ahead if that's what you wish. The world somehow survived Bush, I'm pretty sure we'll survive a dumbed down and stupider version of him. But I'm not sure the US will.

[Major Robert Dump]

IF PALIN WIN PRESIDENT 2012 IT MEAN AZTECS CORRECT NOOOOOOOOOO

[Subotan]

Earthquakes = Nuclear War

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[aimlesswanderer]

My gawd, if she did somehow get elected I have doubts that any countries of the world would take the US seriously for decades to come. Her loony base might not be concerned about that, but US prestige would fall into a hole so deep it might never recover. Not to mention that the US would start doing all sorts of quack things.

[Ronin]

God..I hope not...

but I seriously wouldn´t put it past the average american voter, god knows they made some weird/crazy choices in the past.

it is surprising nonetheless that she can be considered seriously by anyone, her performance in the last campaign showed quite clearly that she is just pretty polished political show pony that memorized a few things that make her base cheer, but once you start asking questions and attempting to peel that onion further you find out...there´s no onion!

who knew that "so what do you read?" was a trick question? Man that Katie Couric is a Jedi Master Reporter!

[edyzmedieval]

And all this week, the McCain campaign is trying to prevent Sarah Palin from talking to reporters covering the news, you know? They said, 'you can take her picture, but you can't ask her any questions.' What is she running for, vice president or 'America's Next Top Model'? (Jay Leno)




I just stumbled upon it today.

[rvg]

If Sara Palin gets the Republican nomination, I'll suppress the gag reflex and vote for the Obamination.

[Cute Wolf]

Actually it's pretty interesting to see the US have a female president... as most countries allready done...