Snakes & Foxes: Mortal Kombat [Concluded]

[Sprig]

GM Comment: Please note that I work full time as such I am simply not able to action requests in real time. Please take note of the following exert from the rules:

IMPORTANT: All "effects" will happen at the time of an update. This includes things like results from using scanners and other items - they will not be reported as soon as I see them, but rather at the next update. This is both to simplify my running the game, but also to make it fairer on people in time zones other than my own.

Also with regards to battles: If you have been selected to battle you will have 24 hrs before you go into isolation to purchase items, power ups and send and receive gifts of mana. At the next update your character will be taken into isolation and I will send you a pm informing you of your remaining mana total. Once you are in isolation from everybody else, you can not do the above actions nor can anyone target you with their special abilities. It is at this stage where you should (using the mana you have left/gained) select which abilities you would like to activate for the upcoming fight.

In order to sort my mail box better and make things easier on me can I please request a PM Title naming standard for game related PM’s

MK: Gift – use this title for gifting mana to another player. You should make sure that you cc in the person that you are sending the mana to unless you want to remain anonymous.
MK: Purchase – Use this title for any pms that relate to the purchasing of items & powerups.
MK: Abilities – use this pm title for activating any abilities for your upcoming battle (you should ideally do this once you have been taken into isolation)
MK: Special power – Use this pm title for when you want to activate your Special power

Thanks in advance. GM

(and yes I am posting this from work, I am a naughty boy.)

[Seon]

bet 50 on Scorpion

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't have much mana to spare, sorry.

If I had some, ya.

[Yaropolk]

To all those complaining about "no mana to spare." You're not doing me any favors by supporting my effort - you're helping yourself. You're saving up for some potential future battle which you might win or lose....but it won't matter since the town is 100% guaranteed to lose without collaboration.

ATPG - I know you lost a bunch of mana on your Sub Zero bet, but that's what gambling does. Don't wage it unless you're willing to lose. Sorry to say this, but whether you have 250 this round or 115 won't make a long term difference in your team's chances to win the tournament - but being able to clear/investigate will!

I'd like to see Mileena (JH) face Kung Lao (ATPG) next round.

Here is my reasoning: one out of SubZero/Scorpion/Mileena was a mark. I don't think SZ was a mark solely based on the fact that Marks want to avoid fighting, and with a 4 person voting block, they could've pushed for someone else on D1. Same goes for Scorpion on N1. Marks would have chosen 2 nonmarks to fight IMO. This leaves Mileena. Could be some reverse psychology employed by marks, but I'm betting that they dont have to cojones to try that on D1.

ATPG vote is just a pressure vote to get him on board with my plan. He's a very bright guy, and "I can't afford it" is a dumb excuse, so I think he's playing dumb to avoid contributing.

P.S. In light of Sprig's announcement that he can only send me updates at the end of the phase, I will post publically identities of all who sent me mana, and if the effort fails, I will refund it, as promised.

[johnhughthom]

Seriously Yaropolk, what do you want me to do? I lost a teammate last round and have one fighting this round, if he loses I am on my own and an easy target. My only concern this round is helping my partner win and I am happy to use most of my mana doing so, if he wins I can get a good bit back, if he loses I'm as good as dead so it doesn't matter.

[Yaropolk]

TM won a gamble last night, so looks like he has plenty to buy an ability + contribute to token purchase.

You don't have enough to help him buy a second ability anyway, and you'll be able to purchase one tomorrow with the extra 150 mana you'll get in case you're chosen in the morning, so I want you both to contribute to the token purchase.

[Yaropolk]

To be honest, there are other things I want to do with my mana.

I bet you do - like pooling with other marks? You have one of the highest mana counts. If you were a townie you'd use 400 to buy an ability and donate the rest.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To all those complaining about "no mana to spare." You're not doing me any favors by supporting my effort - you're helping yourself. You're saving up for some potential future battle which you might win or lose....but it won't matter since the town is 100% guaranteed to lose without collaboration.

ATPG - I know you lost a bunch of mana on your Sub Zero bet, but that's what gambling does. Don't wage it unless you're willing to lose. Sorry to say this, but whether you have 250 this round or 115 won't make a long term difference in your team's chances to win the tournament - but being able to clear/investigate will!

I'd like to see Mileena (JH) face Kung Lao (ATPG) next round.

Here is my reasoning: one out of SubZero/Scorpion/Mileena was a mark. I don't think SZ was a mark solely based on the fact that Marks want to avoid fighting, and with a 4 person voting block, they could've pushed for someone else on D1. Same goes for Scorpion on N1. Marks would have chosen 2 nonmarks to fight IMO. This leaves Mileena. Could be some reverse psychology employed by marks, but I'm betting that they dont have to cojones to try that on D1.

ATPG vote is just a pressure vote to get him on board with my plan. He's a very bright guy, and "I can't afford it" is a dumb excuse, so I think he's playing dumb to avoid contributing.

P.S. In light of Sprig's announcement that he can only send me updates at the end of the phase, I will post publically identities of all who sent me mana, and if the effort fails, I will refund it, as promised.

I'll restrain myself here.

Number One, I don't trust you.

Number Two, I don't have that much mana. PERIOD. That's a FACT.

Number Three, I really don't give a darn if you "pressure me" because I'm not a mark.

I know you lost a bunch of mana on your Sub Zero bet, but that's what gambling does. Don't wage it unless you're willing to lose

I don't need to be patronized. I'm well aware of what betting does. You just guaranteed I'll never support your efforts.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

You just lost my support with your heavy handed tactics Shao.


Kung Lao is right on almost all counts. The biggest being that we can not fully trust you. Sure the writeup says you don't know anything, but have you been investigated and cleared? No. It could be a gambit somehow.... I just can not be sure 100%


Gekkamir has a reason for not wanting to hand over his mana. Strong arming him and making sure no one has any mana to defend themselves when they get in a fight is not winning you any support.

[johnhughthom]

TM won a gamble last night, so looks like he has plenty to buy an ability + contribute to token purchase.

You don't have enough to help him buy a second ability anyway, and you'll be able to purchase one tomorrow with the extra 150 mana you'll get in case you're chosen in the morning, so I want you both to contribute to the token purchase.

OK I'll explain this again, even though you know fine well why I can't give any mana this round. I have lost a team mate. I have one fighting in the next round. If he loses it's as good as game over for me. I don't want that to happen. So we put as much mana as we can into trying to ensure that doesn't happen. OK, which part of that are you pretending not to understand?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone please donate now to the Kung Lao "give only friendships instead of fatalities" fund.



Anyone who doesn't donate gets a babality instead.

[Centurion1]

jax versus johnny mark
Laetrile talke care of this @&$ show how realen fight hooah no one messes with my boys

[Askthepizzaguy]

jax versus johnny mark
Laetrile talke care of this @&$ show how realen fight hooah no one messes with my boys

What's that mean in English?

[johnhughthom]

Do you want orders for this round resent in the new format Sprig?

[Sprig]

Do you want orders for this round resent in the new format Sprig?

That won't be nessassary - just new orders.

[Gekkamir]

Yaropolk, I don't think accusing me of being a mark is a good way to gain my support, which by the way you now have no chance of gaining. As a matter of fact, this would seem an intelligent mark move wouldn't it? After all, who would expect the investigator to be one of the mark?

I vote Shao Kahn vs. Johnny Cage.

[Thermal]

To all those complaining about "no mana to spare." You're not doing me any favors by supporting my effort - you're helping yourself. You're saving up for some potential future battle which you might win or lose....but it won't matter since the town is 100% guaranteed to lose without collaboration.

Possibly, but 1500 is a lot of money, you could spend all that 1500 to investigate someone and find there innocent, which is an awful waste of money and fairly likely to happen. Players don't want to be bankupt, I don't see enough people co-operating with this.

I'd like to see Mileena (JH) face Kung Lao (ATPG) next round.

Here is my reasoning: one out of SubZero/Scorpion/Mileena was a mark.

Do I miss something here? Why must one of us be marks? theirs 5 teams, the marks could be huddled over any of them, team 1 isn't necessarily home to one, we're already decimated as it is.

This leaves Mileena. Could be some reverse psychology employed by marks, but I'm betting that they dont have to cojones to try that on D1.

As said before no one may be a mark on team 1, maybe sub zero was a mark but marks voted to late to make a difference?

ATPG vote is just a pressure vote to get him on board with my plan. He's a very bright guy, and "I can't afford it" is a dumb excuse, so I think he's playing dumb to avoid contributing.

Early in this post you say he lost loads on money on gambling, so its not a dumb excuse, it is a valid one. If he won the bet then maybe it would be valided. But not as it is.

[/QUOTE]

TM won a gamble last night, so looks like he has plenty to buy an ability + contribute to token purchase.

Am i missing something? I didn't bet at all on the Sub-zero vs reptile fight. So no extra money for me, other than a small drizzle after sub zero's demise. Pick on some other team.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Liu Kang versus Kitana

Why? Because you knew that both my team and I are low on Mana, Beskar, and I believe you're trying to go for an easy elimination on me with your vote. You also discuss more than this when you're innocent.

[Thermal]

I'm voting: Jax vs Kinata

2 people from 2 teams that should get 2 votes each with this vote, seems like it would be a good match.

[CCRunner]

I will not be sending my mana. Now, I know this is a different game, but I do have experience with snakes and foxes, while you do not. In my experience, the mark distribution is random-- there are teams with no mark and there are teams with more than one mark. I also have a problem with "confirmed innocents" as I believe there are no such things. Thirdly, we are not only competeing against the mark, but each other. There is no "innocent win". There is "Mark win" or "Johnny Cage win" or "Reptile win". And that win is based off mana so forgive me for not wanting to give you mine.

Plus I want my mana for my own purposes, such as surviving.

[Splitpersonality]

Liu Kang versus Kitana

Why? Because you knew that both my team and I are low on Mana, Beskar, and I believe you're trying to go for an easy elimination on me with your vote. You also discuss more than this when you're innocent.

I fail to see why you battling me will solve anything ATPG... >_>

Fail.

I fail to see how me battling beskar will solve anything for our team ATPG...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I fail to see why you battling me will solve anything ATPG... >_>

Fail.

I fail to see how me battling beskar will solve anything for our team ATPG...

You, my friend, are now rising on my suspicion meter.

Out of everyone on our team, you have the most mana, and I also happen to know I'm not a mark. Since Choxorn is already having his life on the line under orders from the marks, if there is a mark on our team, it's YOU. Not only that, but your cowardice in the face of battle here is very, very unlike you.

Add that to Beskar's attempts to off me, and I smell a mark between the two of you. Better yet, maybe you're both marks. I doubt I'll get a bandwagon on either of you, but I'm now on the record saying you're both suspicious to me.

Oh yeah, and before you come back with the obvious "I must be a mark now" I think you know better. Not only would I be sucking up to Shao Khan's idea, but I would also not be trying to take out my own teammates. WIFOM yes, but as a mark, not smart moves.

[Splitpersonality]

You, my friend, are now rising on my suspicion meter.

Out of everyone on our team, you have the most mana, and I also happen know I'm not a mark. Since Choxorn is already having his life on the line under orders from the marks, if there is a mark on our team, it's YOU. Not only that, but your cowardice in the face of battle here is very, very unlike you.

Add that to Beskar's attempts to off me, and I smell a mark between the two of you. Better yet, maybe you're both marks. I doubt I'll get a bandwagon on either of you, but I'm now on the record saying you're both suspicious to me.

Oh yeah, and before you come back with the obvious "I must be a mark now" I think you know better. Not only would I be sucking up to Shao Khan's idea, but I would also not be trying to take out my own teammates. WIFOM yes, but as a mark, not smart moves.

I'm not trying to play stupid, I'm honestly asking why that would solve anything? You're talking about having your team broken up, but now you're sending another teammate up to fight? I'm not being a to you, but that doesn't make sense to me, if you could honestly explain it with a good reason I'd go for it.

I have the most mana because I bet the least, and if that for some reason makes me a mark than whatever...

I also just so happen to know that I'm not a mark, how interesting how that argument works, no?


I wouldn't accuse you of being a mark, because I trust my teammates when they say they're not marks, whatever the that's worth... I'm sure even saying this will just get me bandwaggoned harder...


I also don't much appreciate calling it cowardice when I don't want to fight someone because I have no idea what I'm doing in a game. I don't like the idea of putting my life on the line, not that it probably matters in the grand scheme, when I really don't know what to do, and I'm sure saying this will have everyone think I'm even scummier.


EDIT

This being said I would like to have Kitana and Liu Kang fight, because Beskar does seem to be quieter than usual.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, that's at least believable testimony.

All right I retract my accusation. I'll disagree with you on some of the substance of what you're saying, for instance if there are marks in the game it means that there are some people with an interest in destroying others they are supposedly teammates with. So I wouldn't automatically trust a teammate.

You know me, I assume everyone is guilty and I work from there. Then if someone does something or there's evidence in favor of their innocence, or perhaps if they do something which wins them style points... I tend to accuse others instead. No offense intended by my previous statement. If you're a mark, nice acting job. I don't believe you're a mark anymore.

Now I shall change my votes to Liu Kang versus Kintaro.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Well, that's at least believable testimony.

All right I retract my accusation. I'll disagree with you on some of the substance of what you're saying, for instance if there are marks in the game it means that there are some people with an interest in destroying others they are supposedly teammates with. So I wouldn't automatically trust a teammate.

You know me, I assume everyone is guilty and I work from there. Then if someone does something or there's evidence in favor of their innocence, or perhaps if they do something which wins them style points... I tend to accuse others instead. No offense intended by my previous statement. If you're a mark, nice acting job. I don't believe you're a mark anymore.

Now I shall change my votes to Liu Kang versus Kintaro.

Did my needless hurling of myself into combat the first round succeed in throwing you off my scent Pizza? My mark buddies are asking me about that, need to know what to tell them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did my needless hurling of myself into combat the first round succeed in throwing you off my scent Pizza? My mark buddies are asking me about that, need to know what to tell them.

You're still a prime suspect. You're a very clever tactical player, and I'd risk it myself on a first round duel were I a mark, for the very reason it might make me look innocent if I survive. Plus I sort of think that the marks might have a better chance of winning a fight... they might have better stats or something.

So no, you haven't earned yourself any brownie points by killing my champion, Sub-Zero.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

You're still a prime suspect. You're a very clever tactical player, and I'd risk it myself on a first round duel were I a mark, for the very reason it might make me look innocent if I survive. Plus I sort of think that the marks might have a better chance of winning a fight... they might have better stats or something.

So no, you haven't earned yourself any brownie points by killing my champion, Sub-Zero.

Plus I made you lose 200 mana. Don't forget about that


Its all do to my razor sharp wits. Just need too estimate what your opponents stats are, and counter them.

Take Cage for example. Obviously his strengths are in his kicks, with at least one of his specials being a "Shadow Kick" (double damage Sweep kick? Maybe, or something like that Just guessing here you understand.) So Strengths probably include Roundhouse kick.... Perhaps Melee as well, and sweep kick? Can't be 100% with cage. Resistances probably include divine, maybe roundhouse or sweep kick. Weaknesses? I want to say Transfiguration, Stealth, and Uppercut (maybe not uppercut. One of his specials probably allows him to gain uppercut as an attack).

Then I take my rough outline and go over my own assets. Keeping in mind that most of the above will probably be BS and have no bearing on the fight.

Sub Zero was far easier, attack had to be elemental (his name is subzero for goodness sake) so I based things around that.

Basically I won because I was completely willing to make random guesses about my opponents skills.

[Beskar]

Liu Kang versus Kitana

Why? Because you knew that both my team and I are low on Mana, Beskar, and I believe you're trying to go for an easy elimination on me with your vote. You also discuss more than this when you're innocent.

I knew that would make you touchy.

I was actually thinking of Hitman Gambit, where you and CDF had a big feud over the whole detective thing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I knew that would make you touchy.

I was actually thinking of Hitman Gambit, where you and CDF had a big feud over the whole detective thing.

*sails over my head*

How does that apply here?

[Beskar]

Battle out Feud?

Since it is a game for fighting, the ultimate decider.