Mass Effect 2 gameplay thread

[frogbeastegg]

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If you press Liara on the issue, I think after doing her two quests, she will say to your face that she handed Shephard's body to Cerberus and you can choose between a "Bad Liara" or "Good Liara" dialogue option.

Wait a minute! Were you playing through with a ME1 character that had romanced Liara? Because mine hadn't and I found something subtly different.

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I talked to Liara at every possible chance, to the point of going back to chat at several points during her mission. I always chose all of the investigate options before picking those on the right hand side to advance the conversation. As far as I'm aware I saw all of her dialogue, including the explanation of why she wants revenge on the Shadowbroker, which you only have a single chance to get in the entire game.

She told me that she'd been investigating what happened to Shepard, that she'd crossed the Shadowbroker while doing so, and that her friend had been killed during the fallout. At no point did she say that she had found Shepard's body and she certainly said nothing about being the one to hand her over to Cerberus! Otherwise my cannon Shepard would have been raging.

So ... where does that leave my cannon Shepard? Is Liara lying to her, covering up the fact she basically betrayed her? Or does Liara only do that to a Shepard she romanced, and all other Shepard's get found by Cerberus' own resources?

This whole thing has bags of potential.

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What made Liara so desperate that she handed her friend's body over to such a dubious group to be used in experiments? And why did she believe they could bring Shepard back? Did she not think Shepard might end up as a husk? Or a Cerberus controlled puppet? Did she stop to consider what Shepard would think of it? Why did she think it was necessary? Don't answer that last with anything related to "Only Shepard can save the galaxy!" because I don't buy that at all - Shepard's not a super being, and she was doing a lousy job of convincing people of the Reaper threat in the time between the citadel attack and her death.

So many questions!

[rajpoot]

Wait a minute! Were you playing through with a ME1 character that had romanced Liara? Because mine hadn't and I found something subtly different.

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Pick all the paragon options while speaking to her, for one. Secondly this option appears only after you've done both the quests Liara offers, the one about hacking the terminals and then one about finding the person who's involved with the Shadow Broker.
After the quests, when you speak to her again, at one point she'll confess that she gave the body to Cerebrus since she could not bear to lose Shepard (my Shepard hadn't romanced Liara, still got the dialogue), and then paragon Shepard can say that it was all OK since what he's doing is important work and that bringing him back made it possible

[frogbeastegg]

Hmm, I did all of that, paragon options included. I got the right answer on the second quest as well. Wonder why I didn't get the line?

As reasons go, the one Bioware gave her is awful.

[Krusader]

Wait a minute! Were you playing through with a ME1 character that had romanced Liara? Because mine hadn't and I found something subtly different.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I talked to Liara at every possible chance, to the point of going back to chat at several points during her mission. I always chose all of the investigate options before picking those on the right hand side to advance the conversation. As far as I'm aware I saw all of her dialogue, including the explanation of why she wants revenge on the Shadowbroker, which you only have a single chance to get in the entire game.

She told me that she'd been investigating what happened to Shepard, that she'd crossed the Shadowbroker while doing so, and that her friend had been killed during the fallout. At no point did she say that she had found Shepard's body and she certainly said nothing about being the one to hand her over to Cerberus! Otherwise my cannon Shepard would have been raging.

So ... where does that leave my cannon Shepard? Is Liara lying to her, covering up the fact she basically betrayed her? Or does Liara only do that to a Shepard she romanced, and all other Shepard's get found by Cerberus' own resources?

This whole thing has bags of potential.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

What made Liara so desperate that she handed her friend's body over to such a dubious group to be used in experiments? And why did she believe they could bring Shepard back? Did she not think Shepard might end up as a husk? Or a Cerberus controlled puppet? Did she stop to consider what Shepard would think of it? Why did she think it was necessary? Don't answer that last with anything related to "Only Shepard can save the galaxy!" because I don't buy that at all - Shepard's not a super being, and she was doing a lousy job of convincing people of the Reaper threat in the time between the citadel attack and her death.

So many questions!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I played through with my Adept which had no romance from ME1. Unfortunately I can't remember what I asked, but I just replayed Ilium on my Infiltrator (hadn't romanced Liara in ME1 either) now and you only get that option it seems after doing both quests for Liara (did them both on Infiltrator, but forgot the "corpse-part" of dialogue earlier and when I went back, there was nothing).

Edit: Check this Youtube video: Shows what options to pick after handing in second Liara quest.

[frogbeastegg]

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Edit: Check this Youtube video: Shows what options to pick after handing in second Liara quest.

Ah! That video helps a lot. When I chose that conversation option she didn't stand up like she does in the video - she got caught on the desk and the whole scene jammed while the model tried to free itself from the obstruction, which it eventually managed to do. When the audio started I missed nearly all of that. I only got the last couple of lines and thought that the entire thing was related to the dead friend; there was nothing to indicate that nearly the entire conversation had been skipped over.

It's not the only conversation bug I ran into.

[Wishazu]

I have now finished playing the game through for the 5th time with one of my many ME1 Shepard characters and my opinion is that this game is near perfect! It's certainly the best game I have played in a long time. Taken together with the first game it's a serious contender for best game EVAR!

I think a few people have massively over criticised a few minor flaws. I love the new characters but find Jacob a little dull and something about jack irks me. My favourite new character is Legion(btw, if you havnt done it already, do the iff mission before recruiting Tali, then take Legion with you to find her. Once her loyalty mission activates take Legion aboard the migrant fleet with you).

Anyways, doing Insanity with my ME1 level 60 renegade soldier now and thoroughly enjoying the challenge.

[Mailman653]

Firewalker DLC

The Hammerhead assault vehicle is coming to the Cerberus Network in late March!

Free to all Cerberus Network members, the Firewalker pack includes 5 all new missions featuring the Hammerhead. Hovering over the battlefield at up to 120 kilometeres per hour, the Hammerhead also boasts a guided missile system ensuring accuracy even during aggressive maneuvering.

[tibilicus]

Firewalker DLC

Mako but at 120kph?

I'm game. God I love Bioware, first they give us this brilliant game then they throw DLC at us, for free! If they keep this up they'll give of the dangerous impression that they're actually game developers who cares about their fan base.

[Meneldil]

If anything, Dragon Age's DLC's shown they actually don't give a damn, like pretty much any other company.