Kagemusha 19:55 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes:
No, it's a response to this post:
Renata's thing is appearing to be nice - which isn't difficult, because she is nice. But that doesn't make her any less ruthless. I know from long experience that she's as ruthless as they come, which makes it rather suspicious when she bases her vote on the ruthlessness of a kill.
Well il take your word for it as i dont know her at all.
Unvote and
Vote: Renata
No, Winston, my ruthlessness is of an entirely different variety than Diamondeye's. He'll tell you himself. He has a history, when Mafia, of going straight and unapologetically for the throat -- the best and strongest of the opposition. I've never done that; it's not how I prefer to operate.
Now that doesn't mean I'm not Mafia. What it does mean is that my vote was not a bad one.
Kagemusha 20:14 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
No, Winston, my ruthlessness is of an entirely different variety than Diamondeye's. He'll tell you himself. He has a history, when Mafia, of going straight and unapologetically for the throat -- the best and strongest of the opposition. I've never done that; it's not how I prefer to operate.
Now that doesn't mean I'm not Mafia. What it does mean is that my vote was not a bad one.
Well lets see then what
Diamondeye has to say about that .
Unvote and
vote: Diamondeye
Askthepizzaguy 20:21 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:
I guess ive heard the name somewhere, but skipped the movie based on the name already. I guess i have to check it now then..
If you haven't actually seen the movie, don't be deterred by the girly-sounding name. It's a well-written tale and it is pretty funny. There's also a lot of death in it, which should tickle your manliness bone.
Sasaki Kojiro 20:35 03-17-2010
There's some kissing in it, but you can fast forward through those parts.
Diamondeye 20:37 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
No, Winston, my ruthlessness is of an entirely different variety than Diamondeye's. He'll tell you himself. He has a history, when Mafia, of going straight and unapologetically for the throat -- the best and strongest of the opposition. I've never done that; it's not how I prefer to operate.
Now that doesn't mean I'm not Mafia. What it does mean is that my vote was not a bad one.
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Well lets see then what Diamondeye has to say about that . Unvote and vote: Diamondeye
Renata is basically correct in her analysis. I'm ruthless enough to murder those players I deem most dangerous in cold blood. I tend to - like Renata - leave players who have not played for a while be, but otherwise I have no scruples. Just look at me killing
ATPG (who's really a nice guy) in Noblesse Oblige. And my goal was even to protect the town - but Pizza could be dangerous to me so he had to go.
Kagemusha, I don't see what your vote's there for, though. Pressure? I'm openly admitting (and did so in my last response to Renata as well) that it does look kind of like my style. And I'm okay with the town lynching me if it clears out some other things. But can we please pressure someone else also, so the day isn't lost?
Personally, I think
Renata would be the type of person to frame me in this way, but it's too early to do anything but guessing quite at random.
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:

Ibn-Khaldun 20:42 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Since it seems Beskar wagon isnt forming up. Unvote and vote: Winston Hughes as that did not occur to me maybe its your own tactics you are accusing Renata for?
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Well lets see then what Diamondeye has to say about that . Unvote and vote: Diamondeye
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Well il take your word for it as i dont know her at all. Unvote and Vote: Renata
FoS: Kagemusha
Make up your mind before posting your vote!!!
Askthepizzaguy 20:45 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun:
FoS: Kagemusha
Make up your mind before posting your vote!!!
FoS: Ibn-Khaldun
The threat of possibly several people switching their votes onto someone unexpectedly is the only thing that keeps the mafia interested in watching the round unfold after the initial bandwagon turns out to be wrong.
Pigeon-holing ourselves onto one candidate makes manipulating the vote tally easier.
I will personally be switching my vote several dozen times in this game, if necessary.
Winston Hughes 20:47 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
No, Winston, my ruthlessness is of an entirely different variety than Diamondeye's. He'll tell you himself. He has a history, when Mafia, of going straight and unapologetically for the throat -- the best and strongest of the opposition. I've never done that; it's not how I prefer to operate.
Now that doesn't mean I'm not Mafia. What it does mean is that my vote was not a bad one.
A bit of misdirection on your part there.
For one thing, I didn't say your vote was bad, or that DE wouldn't do that kind of thing (I know he would).
And for another thing, you are suggesting that you wouldn't do that kind of thing, which
is saying that you're not mafia, since the mafia actually did do it.
Kagemusha 20:47 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
FoS: Ibn-Khaldun
The threat of possibly several people switching their votes onto someone unexpectedly is the only thing that keeps the mafia interested in watching the round unfold after the initial bandwagon turns out to be wrong.
Pigeon-holing ourselves onto one candidate makes manipulating the vote tally easier.
I will personally be switching my vote several dozen times in this game, if necessary.
qft
atheotes 20:48 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Diamondeye:
Renata is basically correct in her analysis. I'm ruthless enough to murder those players I deem most dangerous in cold blood. I tend to - like Renata - leave players who have not played for a while be, but otherwise I have no scruples. Just look at me killing ATPG (who's really a nice guy) in Noblesse Oblige. And my goal was even to protect the town - but Pizza could be dangerous to me so he had to go.
Kagemusha, I don't see what your vote's there for, though. Pressure? I'm openly admitting (and did so in my last response to Renata as well) that it does look kind of like my style. And I'm okay with the town lynching me if it clears out some other things. But can we please pressure someone else also, so the day isn't lost?
Personally, I think Renata would be the type of person to frame me in this way, but it's too early to do anything but guessing quite at random.
Actually, that is a pretty good argument ...mainly because in a game like this where there are no power roles or night actions and people can continue to participate in discussions, the kill choices could be random and it would not make a difference.
unvote:Diamondeye; vote:Renata
Askthepizzaguy 20:51 03-17-2010
I understand I tend to do what I just did a lot as mafia, which is lecture about townie-ness. But I assure you, I'm not feeling self-conscious about that anymore, and this emphatic denial is in no way evidence for or against my very real or imagined guilt. In conclusion, I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
You're splitting hairs now. (@ Winston)
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
I understand I tend to do what I just did a lot as mafia, which is lecture about townie-ness. But I assure you, I'm not feeling self-conscious about that anymore, and this emphatic denial is in no way evidence for or against my very real or imagined guilt. In conclusion, I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Bilbo?
Winston Hughes 20:54 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
You're splitting hairs now. (@ Winston)
How so?
No, no, no, you're not going to drag me into a semantic debate on day one of an open vanilla game, it's just no fun.
DE's argument does make sense, both both for and against him. For now, I'll lean Unvote/Vote: Renata.
Kagemusha 20:58 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
Bilbo?
Me thinks
ATPG is testing his "holy cowness". By rambling some random stuff so long that he gets a vote from someone.
Sasaki Kojiro 21:00 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
No, no, no, you're not going to drag me into a semantic debate on day one of an open vanilla game, it's just no fun. it makes me look suspicious
unvote:atheotes, vote:Renata
Well, that too.
Is Diamondeye lobbying for his cause via IM or do I just have my "kick me, I'm the mafia" sign on right-side up today?
Originally Posted by Methos:
DE's argument does make sense, both both for and against him. For now, I'll lean Unvote/Vote: Renata.
My apologies,
Unvote: Beefy; Vote: Renata.
Sasaki Kojiro 21:04 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
Well, that too.
Is Diamondeye lobbying for his cause via IM or do I just have my "kick me, I'm the mafia" sign on right-side up today?I couldn't possibly be actually suspicious, here's some bizarre alternatives to dismiss the votes on me
unvote, vote:Renata
Kagemusha 21:04 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by Renata:
Well, that too.
Is Diamondeye lobbying for his cause via IM or do I just have my "kick me, I'm the mafia" sign on right-side up today?
This is exactly what happened to me in Shadow fort. At certain point anything you might say just makes things worse. Unfortunate.
Askthepizzaguy 21:05 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:
Me thinks ATPG is testing his "holy cowness". By rambling some random stuff so long that he gets a vote from someone.
/\
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ.
You did that already.
Diamondeye lobbied me earlier, which is why I ask. I'm curious just how invested he is in staying alive.
Kagemusha 21:06 03-17-2010
Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy:
/\
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ.

Yeah.Just what i was saying.
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:
This is exactly what happened to me in Shadow fort. At certain point anything you might say just makes things worse. Unfortunate.
Yeah well, it happens. No big deal.
Originally Posted by Renata:
Is Diamondeye lobbying for his cause via IM or do I just have my "kick me, I'm the mafia" sign on right-side up today?
It's the sign
I realize this is going to look suspicious, but I'm heading out for work soon, so will more then likely miss the update.
Unvote: Renata
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