StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:

Psychonaut- 4 (ATPG, Cent, Split, atheotes)
Centurion- 3 (DE, Subotan, Tincow)
Subotan- 1 (pevergreen)

Not voting yet: Chaotix, Niklas, Psychonaut

There is not presently enough support for a given candidate to overturn Niklas' and the remaining Sith's vote. We have to be more decisive.

Tally has not been double checked yet

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm psycho hasn't even voted. I guess we should lynch him.

[pevergreen]

I'm not convinced of Psycho, but i do recognise he could be.

Unvote: Subotan, Vote: Centurion

I think thats the best action right now.

[Secura]

Lynch Centurion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Psychonaut- 4 (ATPG, Cent, Split, atheotes)
Centurion- 4 (DE, Subotan, Tincow, pevergreen)

Not voting yet: Chaotix, Niklas, Psychonaut

Tally is double checked and accurate.

[Andres]

I haven't been following the last few days, but can somebody tell me who has been blocking Psychonaut?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I haven't been following the last few days, but can somebody tell me who has been blocking Psychonaut?

IIRC
On the two days he was blocked, it was Qui-gon Jinn AKA Diamondeye who did so.

[Choxorn]

GOT IT. SLAM DUNK: The Yoda murder. Both Sith have Amber eyes.



There's your proof the amber eyes are on both sith, and they both have cloaks obviously.

Which proves that there are still two of them.

Psycho, being the only suspect not lynch immune, is probably a good choice, and he's almost certainly mafia by this point anyway. Block/Drain/Investigate/Whatever Pizza and Cent tonight to find the remaining one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Which proves that there are still two of them.

Psycho, being the only suspect not lynch immune, is probably a good choice, and he's almost certainly mafia by this point anyway. Block/Drain/Investigate/Whatever Pizza and Cent tonight to find the remaining one.

Yes, yes, to Choxorn you listen!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Edit: actually:

Diana: Recruit attempt/ended in failure/murder.
Next night: 1 murder, 1 recruit attempt/ended in failure/murder.

This means there was still only 1 Sith.

Next night: 2 murders.
This means there was no recruitment attempt, and we have already seen that one Sith can murder twice.
Next night: 2 murder attempts, etc.

You see, there is only one Sith right now.

[Andres]

IIRC
On the two days he was blocked, it was Qui-gon Jinn AKA Diamondeye who did so.

And the nights Psycho was blocked, there were still two killings?

Then why should we lynch Psycho?

Have you been recruited, Pizza?

What point would there be in having a blocking ability, if one Sith can do two kills when his partner is blocked? That doesn't make sense.

[naut]

Hold on, hold on. I think I've figured out what's happened. DE said he blocked and then drained me. Perhaps, just perhaps, that has something to do with it. The ordering of his actions. The roleblock appears to make a player unconcious, and the investigative drain appears to be a questioning then mind read. Perhaps that he was investigating me, while blocked/unconcious. That'd explain the ambiguity in the results and why Sigurd hasn't cleared it up.

Turns out I was correct, a quick response from Sigurd, as of 50 or so minutes ago.

Yes, the order of things matters. As the actions were done in that order, it means your interrogator couldn't learn anything from you.

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What have you been doing all game?

Attempting to lynch Sith. And protecting myself from false accusations, almost continually.

Why are there two roleblockers then? Seems unbalanced to me. Why was our roleblocker roleblocked, Psycho?

Why are you asking me? Who was going to be blocked/drained last night? Those are your suspects, why else would they block the role-blocker? Because they knew that if they are going to be blocked the amount of kills will drop and their game would be up. If I had the role-block ability and I was Sith don't you think I would have perhaps used it both times I was going to be blocked, rather than insist I be role-blocked, and then let it happen.

Where's your missing powers?

Missing? I have these powers currently:

Force powers:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Force Speed (Padawan ability)


Force Healing (Jedi Master ability)

And this is the one Diamondeye drained:

Force Blinding (Jedi Knight ability)


But, lo and behold where is Force Sight you ask?

Why is your investigation result SO inconclusive, no race no alignment?

This is the interesting part. And Chaotix can confirm this 100% if you like. This investigation ability was a scheme to feed false information to suspect players, in the hope they would fall for it and in the process reveal themselves by following the "investigations" by attacking phony targets. Similar to police entrapment. Why do you think early on I thought Niklas was the leak in Beskar's group? I only switched votes back-then because it is not as effective as making judgements on in-thread behaviour, and is prone to coincidental conclusions.

Why did the murders dip only when you were blocked and Niklas was dead?

Because. As I have maintained since the beginning, that that night there was one Sith and that night he killed and found a new recruit, and ever since then we are facing 2, yes 2 Sith. Thus 1 kill for a night and then 2 from then onwards.

No aggressive powers, no defensive powers, no anti-lynch powers?

See point 1.

So Pizza, either you are completely wrong, or you are Sith trying desperately to protect your scum buddy Cent or I am scum and somehow I am magically able to kill and recruit while unconcious in my cabin. Hmmm. I wonder which one it is....

[Husar]

Possible that Centurion1 is Sith, he and ATPG plan a recruitment but it hasn't happened yet, ATPG does however help already by blocking(could be a new poer for him) Diamondeye and accusing Psycho?
That's assuming the Sith cannot block. I mean whyt kind of town-aligned person would block Qui-Gon and why would they not give us their reasoning now?
Or did I miss anyone claiming to have blocked Qui Gon?
OR was TinCow found worthy of being the Sith apprentice when he was attacked and survived?
Though at the moment I agree with him that Centurion should be lynched, I wanted to mention it anyway.

My thoughts...

[TinCow]

Lynch Centurion1. There are holes all over ATPG's case and it's main strength remains WALL-O-TEXT without much coherence. Will go into it in more depth later, but if any of you trust me in this game, trust me now. DO NOT let ATPG sway you to get Centurion1 out of this lynch.

[Subotan]

I still feel more comfortable with a Cent1 lynch than the Psycho lynch. Cent1 has done nothing to indicate that he is not town (Other than roll Force Breath in the Lotto), whilst the evidence against Psycho is patchy at best. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the Night after a Sith dies, Psycho is blocked and found to be innocent. There's one kill that night, and subsequently two kills thereafter. How can Psycho have been recruited then? He would have to have been recruited on the night that he was blocked and investigated. Granted, it's not impossible that a recruitment would slip under the radar of a concurrent investigation, but it looks very, very unlikely.

[Centurion1]

I hav e done nothing to actually prove gujilt besides act scummy. When saying I'm the best candidate I want to know your evidence. Husar don't post such silly things why would pizza want to be recruited especially this lated with me about to be lynched. Y'all got no evidencr whatsoever and are wasting a lynch

[Sigurd]

Two mistakes has been corrected.

1. The right gender in round 5 has been implemented.
2. Kyp Durron was already a Knight last round. I mistakenly wrote it in by reading the wrong like in the game documents. Syfo-Dyas was the upgraded Padawan.

Sorry to the players involved.

Announcement:

I will not be answering PMs involving questions about particular results or other players. Only questions regarding your own character and powers will be answered.

[TinCow]

Go Go Anti-Wall-O-Text Powers! Form of an Argument!

SHAZAAM!

Why would I be arguing for a method of clearing Centurion1 which prevents him from murdering, and stripping me of anti-lynch powers?

Because you're the unaccounted for roleblocker. You will simply block DE tonight, preventing him from blocking or investigating anyone.

Three suspects: Psycho, Cent, ATPG.

Only three? As far as I was aware, Subotan was far from cleared as was pever. Why are they no longer suspects on your list? You're narrowing is random and incoherent, the only reason for you to list Psycho and not the other two is that you're not actually looking for the real Sith, you're just looking for a scapegoat.

Let me recap the case on Psychonaut, and explain why it is a superior bet than Centurion1 at this point.

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uh screw this I'll just copy/paste what I told TheFlax.

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My theory:
Psycho has 3 actions
he can attempt to recruit
He can kill
he can actively shield himself from scans
and hide his force powers
that explains everythingt


I'm not retyping all of that. That's what I have on Psychonaut, and why it is better to go that route rather then Centurion1.

Once all the junk is removed from that post, this is all it is: your entire argument against Psycho is based on some totally random assumption that the Sith get 3 night actions and that a roleblock stops only 2 of them. There is no evidence whatsoever to back this up, and it is not consistent with the way the roleblock power works. Both DE and Chaotix (confirmed innocent Yoda) have used that power, and they both believed it totally disabled a person.

It's not a lie, I just did not remember all the facts.

If you're being THAT careless to miss a minor part about who the killers were, your analysis isn't to be trusted. You were either intentionally lying, or you were so negligent in your review of the night actions that you made a MAJOR mistake. So, your mistake is either intentional or negligent, and heavily damages your credibility.

IMO Psychonaut has at least 3 available actions, Kill/recruit/Defend himself from scans, roleblocking, possibly others. He can do 3 simultaneously.

Saying this over and over again doesn't make it true. There is no evidence of any kind that shows that the Sith have ever performed 3 actions in a single night, even when there were 2 of them alive. This is what, in the legal industry, we call "negative evidence." You are making an assumption about what does exist on the basis of something that did not happen. Because your entire argument is based on, literally, nothing happening, there is no evidentiary basis for your conclusions. They are, at best, theories and nothing more.

It is possible he was still able to kill even through the block. Explain the missing kill on N10. Explain the missing powers. Explain the inconclusive result. There is no explanation for that.

I've already done that, the missing kill was the action when you were recruited. That was the first night after Niklas was killed, and the very first thing the Sith did was recruit you, just as you warned us they would way back when you were still a townie. The missing "powers" and inconclusive result have been explained perfectly by Psychonaut here.

I admit little minor technicalities like who was killing who isn't my forte, but don't miss the trees for the forest, Tincow. See the whole picture. Explain all of it, don't dismiss it based on one error.

I'm not dismissing it on the basis of one error, I'm dismissing it on the basis of a plethora of errors on which you have built a theory which doesn't even have any actual in-game evidence to back it up. Even with all of your flaws, the best you've managed is a theory, not a case. As for admitting minor technicalities... you totally skipped my argument about your recruitment explaining the missing kill.



I'll keep combing though ATPG's detritus in a bit. Need coffee and a shower. I'll tell you right now though, it's all like this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because you're the unaccounted for roleblocker. You will simply block DE tonight, preventing him from blocking or investigating anyone.

That's incorrect. I have no roleblocking powers.

Only three? As far as I was aware, Subotan was far from cleared as was pever. Why are they no longer suspects on your list? You're narrowing is random and incoherent, the only reason for you to list Psycho and not the other two is that you're not actually looking for the real Sith, you're just looking for a scapegoat.

I still haven't found an explanation to all of the problems with Psychonaut, and that is why I am focusing on him.

Once all the junk is removed from that post, this is all it is: your entire argument against Psycho is based on some totally random assumption that the Sith get 3 night actions and that a roleblock stops only 2 of them. There is no evidence whatsoever to back this up, and it is not consistent with the way the roleblock power works. Both DE and Chaotix (confirmed innocent Yoda) have used that power, and they both believed it totally disabled a person.

The Sith lord clearly has at least 2 actions, that's proven just by reading it. Then (sorry) I am not a roleblocker and I didn't block Diamondeye. I believe there has been no recruit, and that also seems clear by the writeup. How, after 2 failures, does the Sith Lord have an apprentice at all? He's too busy doing other actions, and the recruitment never shows up, but the failures do.

That's not random at all, that's based on what's written plainly for all to see.

If you're being THAT careless to miss a minor part about who the killers were, your analysis isn't to be trusted. You were either intentionally lying, or you were so negligent in your review of the night actions that you made a MAJOR mistake. So, your mistake is either intentional or negligent, and heavily damages your credibility.

Oh please, don't even give me that mister amber eyes killer.

Saying this over and over again doesn't make it true.

Neither is your extremely erroneous assumption that I've been recruited or have blocking powers, at least one of which is disproved by a casual reading of the writeups.

There is no evidence of any kind that shows that the Sith have ever performed 3 actions in a single night, even when there were 2 of them alive.

WHAT?

Pardon me, but two murders plus a block on Diamondeye?

This is what, in the legal industry, we call "negative evidence." You are making an assumption about what does exist on the basis of something that did not happen. Because your entire argument is based on, literally, nothing happening, there is no evidentiary basis for your conclusions. They are, at best, theories and nothing more.

I can add.

Qui-Gon Jinn was out and about heading for a particular part of the quarters section when he met one of the crew members. Qui-Gon didn’t really want to talk to anyone at this particular time and was short in his conversation. The other crew member was on the other hand very chatty and Qui-Gon was reduced to listen to this verbose crew member. At a particular junction which was out of ways way, the crew member made a gesture whose signature Qui-Gon knew very well, he had barely time to look surprised before he slumped down onto the floor completely unconscious.

Mara Jade Skywalker, the beautiful descendant of the first Jedi, walked along the hallway leading to her quarters. Her hips swayed extra and she played with her hair thinking about the beauty contest that she had just won and that had been organized just for lulz by the remnant of the Jedi crew. It was nice to be recognized as the most gorgeous chick onboard. She felt particularly feminine this night and she was in a particularly good mood. At an intersection close to her cabin stood a dark presence.
The dark side of the force was reeking from it and amber hateful eyes were observing her approach. Mara felt the threat from it and the feminine sway of her walk turned to determined warrior steps. She ignited her blue lightsabre and approached the dark presence. As she was about to attack this dark being, which could only be a Sith, the being raised both hands and blue energy cascaded from them. Mara was ready though and used the force to deflect the electric lightning. She moved in to strike at the cloaked and dark being with those hateful amber eyes, when she felt a surge through her body. It was as if her very life force was drained from her. She fell helpless to the floor, lightsabre clinking down the hallway. The dark being moved closer to her and smiled:” And so ends the most beautiful woman on this ship and another will take your place.”
She could barely hear the cackling laughter of the retreating Sith as her strength was near completely depleted.

Anakin Skywalker was love struck. He had witnessed the beauty contest and had loudly approved the winner which had sent him some inviting glances. Even though they were distant relatives, they were distant enough to engage in a relationship. That she had the same surname as him was just an advantage. She wouldn’t have to change it should he propose and they were married. He smiled thinking about the prospect.
As he neared her cabin, he saw a lightsabre lying in the hallway. Wasn’t that Mara’s? He hurried along the hallway and saw a slumped body in the intersection up ahead. Could it be? “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!” He ran the rest of the way and knelt down by the woman he barely knew but yet loved. She was barely breathing. He put her head on his lap and stroke her beautiful auburn hair. She was still semi unconscious, but he thought he saw a smile on her face and a single tear running down her chin. He talked soothingly to her as he sensed that her life force was about to fail. A presence loomed nearby and approached. A sinister voice uttered: “So.. if it isn’t the love birds. You will soon be joined in the hereafter, or maybe not…” The amber glowing eyes were looming over Anakin as he sat with Mara’s head on his lap. He was angry. “You killed her!! I may not be able to best you, but others surely will. You can’t escape, Sith!!.”
The dark being laughed manically and crouched.
Anakin threw up a field of force in front of him and Mara, and as the Sith jumped up and released a torrent of force, the part that hit his field was absorbed. However the hallway around him tore apart and the noise of it was nearly unbearable.
The Sith looked at the untouched Anakin and smiled. “Gooooood... that is a trick which would be nice to learn.”
Anakin felt his world go asunder and it was as if his life force was drained from him. He slumped forward and landed beside Mara who was struggling breathing. Darkness soon overtook Anakin as he no longer had the power to hold his eyes open. But his last view was of a beautiful woman next to him. His last draw of breath was full of her smell. The last touch was of her embrace. He was dying, but he was glad it was next to her.

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I've already done that, the missing kill was the action when you were recruited.

That's not quite divine, but it sure is bovine.

That was the first night after Niklas was killed, and the very first thing the Sith did was recruit you, just as you warned us they would way back when you were still a townie. The missing "powers" and inconclusive result have been explained perfectly by Psychonaut here.

I'll look at it and reply, continuing.

I'm not dismissing it on the basis of one error, I'm dismissing it on the basis of a plethora of errors on which you have built a theory which doesn't even have any actual in-game evidence to back it up. Even with all of your flaws, the best you've managed is a theory, not a case. As for admitting minor technicalities... you totally skipped my argument about your recruitment explaining the missing kill.

Because its totally bleeping false.

I'll keep combing though ATPG's detritus in a bit. Need coffee and a shower. I'll tell you right now though, it's all like this.

Yeah your case was real airtight too, Tincow.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is the interesting part. And Chaotix can confirm this 100% if you like. This investigation ability was a scheme to feed false information to suspect players, in the hope they would fall for it and in the process reveal themselves by following the "investigations" by attacking phony targets. Similar to police entrapment. Why do you think early on I thought Niklas was the leak in Beskar's group? I only switched votes back-then because it is not as effective as making judgements on in-thread behaviour, and is prone to coincidental conclusions.

In criminal law, entrapment is when a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit an offense which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal liability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment

There's a reason for this. It's ineffective and it could prompt an innocent person to make a mistake. That's all you've managed to do here. Good job.

[Renata]

Chaotix will you confirm both that Psychonaut's "investigations" were made up, and when he informed you of this, please. Also, Psycho, if that's true it was rather irresponsible. You had a couple of people reported as "just sleeping". I tried to get Greyblades out of a lynch based on that information and probably would have succeeded if not for it being a weekend. What if he had been mafia?

This doesn't even make sense.

[Renata]

And wait -- there were names in that list that were not obvious ones (including mine). Where did those names come from if not an investigation ability? Am I missing something? Haven't had coffee, still haven't slept in a week and can't read straight.

[autolycus]

Lynch Centurion1

Realistically, this could also work:

Today/Tonight:

Lynch Psychonaut
Drain AND Block Centurion1 (stop the kill, remove anti-lynch)
Investigate me, and I will leave my Force Stealth ability OFF.

Tomorrow:

Lynch Centurion1 unless there's still 2 murders, (else lynch me to remove my anti-lynch power, and block/drain/investigate me, lynch me next day)
Block, drain, investigate me anyway.

Final day:

Lynch me.

That doesn't work if the Sith can block Diamondeye, which they clearly can. The only way to get rid of the anti-lynch ability while the Sith can block Diamondeye is the good old-fashioned way, trying to lynch them. Also, if there are still two murders and it's atpg and Cent, they'll be golden. Lynch Cent1 today, and if he doesn't turn up Sith, consider Psycho for the next day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want a fully satisfying explanation to each one of these.

Where's your missing powers?

Yes, the order of things matters. As the actions were done in that order, it means your interrogator couldn't learn anything from you.

This is what you claimed as a defense. What order of actions? Explain this. Where did Sigurd post this? I don't see it anywhere.

Are you saying it matters if someone interrogates you before they also block you, or blocks you then interrogates you? On the same night these actions should happen at the same time. I don't get how that should matter. Both orders should be sent in at the same time. I need further explanation on those mechanics, and I would prefer to have some proof of that somewhere in some writeup where I can see it, not just take your word for what Sigurd said.

What have you been doing all game?

Attempting to lynch Sith. And protecting myself from false accusations, almost continually.

What is Force Healing, and what does it do? Who have you healed with it?

Why is your investigation result SO inconclusive, no race no alignment?

This is the interesting part. And Chaotix can confirm this 100% if you like. This investigation ability was a scheme to feed false information to suspect players, in the hope they would fall for it and in the process reveal themselves by following the "investigations" by attacking phony targets. Similar to police entrapment. Why do you think early on I thought Niklas was the leak in Beskar's group? I only switched votes back-then because it is not as effective as making judgements on in-thread behaviour, and is prone to coincidental conclusions.

Are you saying Diamondeye has no investigation power? This is news to me. I was talking about Diamondeye, not yourself.

Why did the murders dip only when you were blocked and Niklas was dead?

Because. As I have maintained since the beginning, that that night there was one Sith and that night he killed and found a new recruit, and ever since then we are facing 2, yes 2 Sith. Thus 1 kill for a night and then 2 from then onwards.

I disagree, the writeups show an attempted recruitment immediately afterward, twice failing in that regard. I am not getting where you think there is a recruit. I've shown that both Sith have amber eyes, and they have different attack powers, those aren't signatures.

No aggressive powers, no defensive powers, no anti-lynch powers?

I'm still not clear on this. Did Diamondeye drain/investigate you or not? Why did the result indicate you had no powers?


Your little ruse has succeeded in one thing, and that is making this whole situation much harder for me to make any sense of. I'm looking for either Diamondeye or Chaotix to clarify all this.


What was this list of characters you cooked up? Let's start with that.

[TinCow]

Why are there two roleblockers then? Seems unbalanced to me. Why was our roleblocker roleblocked, Psycho?

It's not unbalanced, it's called random.org. Remember, this second roleblocker is NOT new. That person roleblocked me back on N8, when Niklas was still alive. By doing so, they cleared me of suspicion at that time. As such, there was no reason, whatsoever, for the Sith to roleblock me. No, that was a roleblock by a townie looking for Sith. Since DE says it wasn't him, it was clearly our second roleblocker. Last night that same roleblocker stopped DE when he was going to target Centurion1. I think we can all agree that was a scum move, no matter how the rest of these arguments fall.

So, the second roleblocker was town on N8, and is Sith now. That's proof of recruitment right there.

The amber eyes clue is also meaningless.

Check out the inconsistency there. Some nights the amber eyes are mentioned for both kills. Both Sith seem to have amber eyes. One night, the amber wasn't even mentioned at all.

On review, this is true. However, the signatures are still there. There was the Sith who relied primarily on the saber and the Sith who relied primarily on the Force. The primary-saber kills stopped after Niklas died. All kills since then have been the Force killer, which still clears Psycho in the same way that I was arguing the eyes thing did.

Chaotix was wrong that he's the only one who can roleblock, that much is clear from the writeup. If the Grand Master has a certain kind of roleblock, it is possible there is more than one kind. Perhaps his only blocks a single attempted action.

Oddly specific information about how the second roleblock works. But, of course, you would know that because you're the second roleblocker.

Those kills are NOT signatures which identify who is who. Those are chosen Sith actions to overcome defenses.

NOTHING in the writeups indicates which Sith is which, except perhaps that one versus Chaotix where both Sith attacked Yoda. That's all I can see.

The writeup "clues" we thought were clues are all misleading. They are NOT indicative of identity.

Incorrect, the fact remains that we have the primary saber killer and the primary force killer. That may well have something to do with the abilities of the individual Sith, but it doesn't change the fact that we haven't seen a single primary saber kill since Niklas died. Thus, the kills are useful for showing identity.

That's incorrect. I have no roleblocking powers.

You'll forgive me for not believing you. I'll wait until DE takes a look at you tonight.

I still haven't found an explanation to all of the problems with Psychonaut, and that is why I am focusing on him.

Psycho's explanation above fits perfectly. If Chaotix confirms his statement about the fake Force Sight, Psycho's as good as gold.

The Sith lord clearly has at least 2 actions, that's proven just by reading it. Then (sorry) I am not a roleblocker and I didn't block Diamondeye. I believe there has been no recruit, and that also seems clear by the writeup. How, after 2 failures, does the Sith Lord have an apprentice at all? He's too busy doing other actions, and the recruitment never shows up, but the failures do.

No recruit? Then how do you explain the shifting motive of the second roleblocker?

Neither is your extremely erroneous assumption that I've been recruited or have blocking powers, at least one of which is disproved by a casual reading of the writeups.

Pardon me, but two murders plus a block on Diamondeye?

Good point, but it still doesn't show three actions by a single Sith. Your entire theory on Psycho is based on him having three night actions every night and the GM roleblock only stopping two of them. You also claim that there is only one Sith left and that they have not recruited a replacement for Niklas. If that is true, then the remaining Sith has held off using his third action every single night. That's insane. If a solo Sith could do 3 actions, we would see 3 deaths. In addition, there is still no basis at all for your assumption that the GM block only stops 2 actions. That's fabricated from nothing. Chaotix and DE both believe that it stops everything, and they would know better than you would.

That's not quite divine, but it sure is bovine.

Excellent argument, kudos.

[TinCow]

For those who do not want to read WALLS-O-TEXT, here is my theory about the situation:

Starting Sith: Niklas and Centurion1
Prior to N8, ATPG gains a roleblock ability.
On N8, ATPG roleblocks me, thinking I am Sith.

On D10, Niklas is lynched.
On N10, ATPG is recruited, which accounts for the missing night action.

Every night since bring recruited, ATPG has used Force Stealth on himself to keep anyone from investigating him as Sith. He's already admitted that he was using that power every night. He's playing the sleeper agent.

Last night, ATPG knew that Centurion1 would be nailed by DE, so ATPG stopped using Force Stealth, and used his old roleblock power once again. That stopped DE from scanning or blocking Centurion1.



Nice, clean, and consistent with the evidence. This is a far better theory than the theory that a single Sith gets 3 night actions and the GM roleblock power can only stop 2 of them.

[Renata]

Psychonaut is most certainly NOT as good as gold if Chaotix confirms what he has said. In fact, it would be very nearly a smoking gun.

Let me put this in bold text so it can't be missed:
Psychonaut had the names of four roles, including my own, which had not been revealed in any write-up and which were not roles that should obviously be in the game.

WHERE DID HE GET THE NAME TAHIRI VEILA IF HE'S NOT AN INVESTIGATOR? Where did he get the others?

[Subotan]

When saying I'm the best candidate I want to know your evidence.

Do we have to do this again?

• Lurking, right through to the end game. This would normally be enough to warrant a lynch anyway, but we really don't have the time to lynch you just for that.
• Suffering from Subotan Syndrome. You say you don't have the time to read through the thread; yet you post from a mobile device and spring up like a Whack-A-Mole whenever your name is mentioned. (Just like now in fact)
• Having a Force Breath ability, not informing the town about it, and then letting the town to waste a lynch on it.
• Not only that, but self-voting in an attempt to ensure that such an action is carried out.
• No physical alibis (I.e. not just a role PM)
• Denying that your character was in fact, your character.
• Extremely anxious to agree with ATPG when he is not arguing for your death

Did I miss anything? Even if I didn't, there is no-one who has such a comparable mountain of clues(At this moment in time...), that indicate that you are our Darth Scum.

I hav e done nothing to actually prove gujilt besides act scummy.

Scummy is an overused word. It's definition is behaviour that indicates that one is mafia. It is something that must be taken in context, and either be one helluva clue, or be long term consistent behaviour. Too often, "scummy" is used to accuse action which is neither of those things. Happily for us, your behaviour doesn't just indicate one of those requirements, but both. If you are trying to use the negative conotations currently associated with the word "scummy" in an attempt to save yourself, give up. It's not going to work.

[TinCow]

Psychonaut is most certainly NOT as good as gold if Chaotix confirms what he has said. In fact, it would be very nearly a smoking gun.

Let me put this in bold text so it can't be missed:
Psychonaut had the names of four roles, including my own, which had not been revealed in any write-up and which were not roles that should obviously be in the game.

WHERE DID HE GET THE NAME TAHIRI VEILA IF HE'S NOT AN INVESTIGATOR? Where did he get the others?

Chaotix could investigate, we know that. If Chaotix and Psycho were working together, Chaotix could have given the names to Psycho. Thus, if Chaotix confirms Psycho's story, he's solid.

[TinCow]

Tally:
Centurion1: 4 (DE, Subotan, TinCow, pevergreen)
Psychonaut: 4 (ATPG, Centurion1, split, atheotes)

Please shift votes onto Centurion1. Niklas has not yet voted. We need 2 more votes on Cent1 to actually lynch him. Anything less will let him get away or risk a tie.

[Subotan]

Actually, one more, since Psycho will likely not vote for himself.